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"Miraculous" Stem Cell Progress Reported In China

destinyland writes "In China's Guangdong Province there's been 'almost miraculous' progress in actually using stem cells to treat diseases such as brain injury, cerebral palsy, ataxia and other optic nerve damage, lower limb ischemia, autism, spinal muscular atrophy, and multiple sclerosis. One Chinese biotech company, Beike, is now building a 21,500 square foot stem cell storage facility and hiring professors from American universities such as Stanford. Two California families even flew their children to China for a cerebral palsy treatment that isn't available in the US. The founder of Beike is so enthusiastic, he says his company is exploring the concept of using stem cells to extend longevity beyond 120 years."

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  1. Re:A Dying Breed by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    > Republican conservatives move to block stem cell research

    It's embryonic stem cell research that conservatives don't like. Adult stem cell research is fine.

  2. Embyonic vs. Adult. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unless I misread the article. It seems they found a way to make Adult Stem Cells behave like embryonic stem cells.
    The moral issue of Stem Cells isn't the Stem Cells but the fact that if you needed Embryonic Stem Cells you needed to Abort/Terminate/Kill/(whatever verb you think best describes the process) the fetus.

    As the anti-abortion groups see abortions as killing a human life, it makes it a situation where you kill one human life to save an other or many, which is a huge ethical dilemma.

    Now if you can make adult Stem Cells work like Embryonic then the issue to the ethics is reduced, taking most major religions out of the fight. Only leaving a few Right Wing Crazies who will not even try to understand the difference.

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    1. Re:Embyonic vs. Adult. by VShael · · Score: 5, Informative

      The moral issue of Stem Cells isn't the Stem Cells but the fact that if you needed Embryonic Stem Cells you needed to Abort/Terminate/Kill/(whatever verb you think best describes the process) the fetus.

      Actually, you're playing right into the hands of the pro-life movement by saying that.
      It is NOT (repeat NOT) that you needed to kill/abort the fetus so as to get stem cells.

      The fetus was aborted already. It is now medical waste. The only question is if you can use the medical waste to save lives, or not.

      The distinction is an important one, but one which is all to easily overlooked by those who wish to perpetrate the image of scientists aborting fetuses so they can get their hands on those precious stem cells.

  3. Re:A Dying Breed by JeanPaulBob · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's embryonic stem cell research that conservatives don't like. Adult stem cell research is fine.

    It's not even embryonic stem cell research. It's destruction of embryos. Meaning:

    1.) Bush's policy was to fund ESCR from already-existing lines.
    2.) There are various attempts to derive ESC lines that don't require destruction of embryos.

  4. Re:A Dying Breed by Talderas · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the article seems to indicate that the treatment was done with adult stem cells.

    Dr. Hu - "In 2004, after three years of clinical studies observing more than 100 cases, I decided to build a company to supply and work on safe adult stem cells."

    Dr. Hu - "As of February 2009, Beike has treated over 5,087 patients with cord blood stem cell injections"

    Dr. Hu - "After all these years of observation and practice, I consider adult stem cell-based therapy to be safe."

    Dr. Hu - "We will set the standard and criteria for R&D in developing adult stem cells and iPS."

    Dr. Hu - "The adult stem cells we use are safe."

    Dr. Hu's only mention of embryonic stem cells is the following....

    Dr. Hu - "I think Geron's FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of embryonic stem cell-based therapy is great news for the entire stem cell industry. More competition is inevitable."

    The significance here is that China doesn't have the same restrictions regarding human testing that the US does. They've jumped into it faster, and Dr. Hu has been using adult stem cells rather than embryonic. According to this article, the only negative side effect to having an embryonic stem cell ban is that it reduces competition.

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  5. Re:A Dying Breed by Gospodin · · Score: 5, Informative

    And it's not even destruction of embryos that was prevented. It's federal funding of same. This has to be one of the least understood and most poorly reported issues of the entire Bush administration.

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  6. Re:Observe and learn by cyberchondriac · · Score: 5, Informative

    China just beat us there. Regardless of your personal morals, you can't deny that we jumped on the brake, China didn't, and now we're sending them our professors.

    As I stated earlier, this research was from cord blood stem cells, not embryonic stem cells. The federal government under GWBush funded this type of research and only banned funding from embryonic stem cells coming from new lines.

    You know that, and I know that, and you can say this until you're blue in the face, but the hard core Bush bashers probably aren't going to listen. They'll still believe and repeat the lie that Bush "banned" all "stem cell research" to the day they die, just as a good many of them actually believe Sarah Palin really said "I can see Russia from my house" - when in fact it was comedian Tina Fey who said that in a skit on SNL.
    Vitriol flows better when truth doesn't get in it's way.
    I'm not even a "pro-life" conservative, for that matter; I'm just sick and tired of hearing this disinformation repeated ad nasueum.

    The truth is, Bush didn't ban stem cell research. Bush didn't even ban embryonic stem cell research. He only banned federal level funding for it. The States and the private sector were free to do as they pleased.
    Further, he didn't even ban federal funding for research on existing lines of embryonic stem cells, only on new lines.
    And all other forms of stem cell research, and their funding (cord, adult) were not restricted whatsoever.

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