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Cameron's Avatar a 3D Drug Trip?

bowman9991 writes "James Cameron's first movie since Titanic, his upcoming science fiction epic Avatar, has a budget pushing US$200 million and enough hype to power a mission to Mars. Now it appears the 3D technology he created to turn his vision into a reality, the key to Avatar's success or failure, may be habit forming. Dr. Mario Mendez, a behavioral neurologist at the University of California, said it is entirely possible Cameron's 3D technology could tap brain systems that are undisturbed by conventional 2D movies. Cameron himself believes 3D viewing 'is so close to a real experience that it actually triggers memory creation in a way that 2D viewing doesn't' and that stereoscopic (3D) viewing uses more neurons, which would further heighten its impact."

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  1. Drug Trip? Great Idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I personally plan on smoking some weed before I see it.

    I wish I knew where I could find some mushrooms...

  2. Hype, nothing by Kelson · · Score: 5, Funny

    At $200 million, they're approaching the ability to fund a mission to Mars.

    1. Re:Hype, nothing by Me-The-Person · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not quite... "According to spokesmen of both NASA and the federal government, the price tag of the mission to Mars currently sits at approximately $11 billion over the course of the multi-stage implementation of the program. Unfortunately, flipping this extraordinary bill is only a small portion of the whole sum of costs imposed by the Mars Exploration Program." - http://www.mises.org/article.aspx?Id=1440

  3. It's true, I'm addicted to 3D. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    After watching several 3D movies back to back, I now find myself completely addicted to 3D and finding myself craving it all the time in my everyday life. I've tried to give it up, but after only a few minutes of having one eye shut I start to get a headache and my eye muscles get sore, not to mention I'm completely unable of functioning and find myself bumping into things and knocking things over when I reach for them. James Cameron must be stopped!

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    1. Re:It's true, I'm addicted to 3D. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Funny

      I only wish I could experience 3d more in my day to day life.

      Why must I have to wear special glasses and go into a darkened theater to experience 3d? Why?

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  4. So what? by localman57 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just because something is 3d, it doesn't necessarily excite the brain... I'm staring at my desk in 3d right now, and all I feel is bordom...

    1. Re:So what? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the point is, that you would not look at a boring desk, but at something that you would normally never see in reality, but start confusing it with reality, thereby shocking you into insanity. ^^

      I don't know if it it, but it sounds much like the arguments some people make against games. You know, the "I think people are too stupid to know that this is not reality, and will go on the streets, killing everyone, *because of it*." kind.

      I feel very confident that I can distinguish that stuff. And I really hope it triggers some memory creation. I wouldn't want to pay for it, and remember nothing.
      I am also the kind of person, who really *really* loves getting sucked into a movie or game.
      You know. The moments when you come out of the cinema... and somehow, the whole world looks different.
      You may have experienced it with Matrix. And with Fight Club. I certainly did.
      And I totally love it.

      Because no matter what horrors and just plain weird events you might remember very realistically afterwards, in the end you get some beautiful new views, grow a bit wiser, and will always know that it was just a movie.

      Except of course, if you were a retard in the first place. ^^ (= the exception)

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    2. Re:So what? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Funny

      That just means you both saw those movies in highschool.

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  5. Dr Mario? by FluffyWithTeeth · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not surprised it'd be habit forming, with the amount of pills Dr Mario throws down patients' throats.

    Damn, now I want to pull out a SNES and play Mixed Match..

  6. Re:And when.. by Narpak · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bigger question is; When we DO get 3D porn will it make you believe, and create the memory, that you've had actually sex? And if it does; hi to you population decrease.

  7. Astroturfing is habit forming by mugnyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other news, a purveyor of some media claims it's the best thing evar!!11!! You'll have to pay 10$ to see for yourself, but do not miss it!

      I think the only important word in the article is $200M. This means hype, and lots of it. Don't be fooled kids, they need you to help pay for this cartoon.

  8. Meeting the high standards of our community forum by khallow · · Score: 4, Informative
    So in other words, we shouldn't watch this highly dangerous movie with its wicked three dee technology. Our brains are incapable of resisting this unholy lure since we have evolved in a natural two dimensional world. The following quote bodes well for the story:

    "It was like doing some kind of drug," he said, describing a scene showing Sam Worthington running around "with this kind of hot alien chick," and being attacked by jaguarlike creatures. He was sprinkled with sprites that floated down, like snowflakes. "You feel like the little feathery things are landing on your arm".

    In other words, it's a typical fantasy movie with spaceships masquerading as science fiction.

    Finally, is it me or is this an Onion story reject? A bit more funny and it'd fit right in.

  9. True Story by heyitsjon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw The Terminator 3D at universal studios when I was 8, and I've been looking for John Connor since then.

  10. Hey Hiro... Wanna try some Snow Crash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Neal Stephenson called it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_crash

    One of the plot devices is a drug that can be absorbed visually.

    Interestingly, Stephenson is also the one who coined the modern use of 'Avatar' in virtual worlds.

  11. yeah, no really... by FredFredrickson · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, seriously though, guys, this 3d movie IS SOOOO 3d, that if it made sense, I'd just go ahead and label it with a few more dimensions. In fact, it's 4d! By the time you leave the theater, you'll feel like you're in the future! Hours will have passed!

    TLDR: 3d is the same as it's been, nothing to see here, move along.

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    1. Re:yeah, no really... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Films are 4D. The time dimension is represented by slices of time, or frames. You can look at any place along the movie's time dimension you want, by traveling along your own time dimension, the "real" one. You can, in theory, have multiple time dimensions just as multiple space dimensions.

      Presumably, this is how everyone from Dr. Manhattan to The Prophets of DS9 view the world, though clearly things get a bit touchy when they interact with the film strip that is our reality. They have no way to predict the outcome before trying it, in our timeline, than we do. They just see the results instantly. Presumably they cannot travel along their own timeline to stop themselves from doing something they did in their own timeline's past.

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  12. Viral marketing by Cruciform · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you think viral marketing is bad now, just wait until they start putting advertising payloads in the flu.

    Every case of intestinal distress comes with a sudden urge to watch High School Musical XIII.

    Or is it the other way around?

  13. Visual medium = psychological effects by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For all the "bah humbug" blathering on this thread, methinks there's something to it.

    Surely most of us geeks have noticed the difference in mental state & perception caused by 24FPS, 30FPS, 60FPS, 3:2 pulldown, and other differences in visual medium. Each causes a different psychological state, with some causing more of a stupor and others more a sense of real. 3D, done right, will lead to other mental effects. I don't think a major director experimenting with new technology would be BSing us about what it does to the viewer's mind.

    Personally, I've seen one 3D IMAX film (something about Egypt) which unlike other "hey wow it's 3D!" movies really did give a deep sense of "being there". Move that effect to a full-blown bleeding-edge movie by a director known for pushing visual limits, and we may very well experience something new.

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  14. Seems ridiculous, but... by wjwlsn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Consider Ramachandran's mirror box, a means of using illusion to "cure" the pain of phantom limbs. From the Wikipedia article:

    The patient places his or her good limb into one side, and the stump into the other. The patient then looks into the mirror on the side with good limb and makes "mirror symmetric" movements, as a symphony conductor might, or as we do when we clap our hands. Because the subject is seeing the reflected image of the good hand moving, it appears as if the phantom limb is also moving. Through the use of this artificial visual feedback it becomes possible for the patient to "move" the phantom limb, and to unclench it from potentially painful positions. Because this visual feedback elicits kinesthetic sensations... Repeated training in some subjects has led to long-term improvement ... and in one exceptional case, even to the complete elimination of the phantom limb between the hand and the shoulder ...

    If such a low-tech visual illusion can rewire neurons, what can a high-fidelity, 3-dimensional illusion accomplish? (I'm not saying that Cameron's movie is going to have such effects, but how far will the technology go?)

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  15. Re:I'm blind in one eye... by Hottie+Parms · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not blind, but because I was cross-eyed for many years before I had corrective surgery, my brain tends to focus out of one eye primarily. My stereoscopic vision is quite limited, thus reducing depth perception and making it nearly impossible to see using those 3D glasses.

    I remember staring at those Magic Eye posters for hours, frustrated that all the other kids could see dolphins and ships and stuff, while all I saw was a bunch of weird looking colors.

    Thanks to the wonders of a college class on Visual Perception, I now understand why. Mod this "+5, Woe is me"?

  16. Oh please. by mewsenews · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) The article is Slashdotted.

    2) Anyone who viewed "Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D" (With BRAND NEW 3D technology!!) knows that a crap film is a crap film no matter how many god damn dimensions it is viewed in.

  17. Crazy story.... by masterzora · · Score: 4, Interesting
    So, I've got a crazy professor at my university who has been telling this story for years, and I thought it was kind of hilarious in context of this article. Anyway:

    Now, the first thing I have to say is you all are not going to believe this story is true. But I swear, this story is 100% true. It is not an exaggeration in any way. It is true.

    At the time, I had been a professor at this college for ten years and was on sabbatical. During this time, I decided to take a film class at the American Film Institute. You see, I used to spend a lot of time with filmmakers and artists, and the like, and I hadn't done that for a while, so I decided to take this film class now that I could devote the time to it.

    It was a fantastic class. A lot of big name screenwriters came by. The writer of "Basic Instinct", the writer of "Deadpool", to name some. For the class we all wrote a trunk script, which is a script you carry around to show to studios and producers to try and sell. I wrote a script titled "Panama City," which is not relevant to the story. During the course of the class, I got to have coffee with film students and big name screenwriters, and such. Discussion of a screenplay called "Avatar" came up among screenwriters.

    One day, the writer of "Deadpool" and another screenwriter friend of his came in and talked to us and I asked the screenwriter friend about this screenplay, "Avatar", and a hush came over the room. He went on to explain the premise of the screenplay which is this:

    In this screenplay, there are pantheons of gods fighting a cosmic war, but because they have no understanding of war, there are fallen angels sent to Earth to recruit human military specialists and tacticians, and the like. A lot of this stuff is based on Plato's Temius, and the fallen angels have sunglasses to hide the light in their eyes.

    It was never really explained how the recruitment worked. After this guy was done explaining the plot, the writer of "Deadpool" speaks up and says, "there's something else you should say... Avatar is an actual battleplan." This man said that "Avatar" was a master plan for gods disguised as a screenplay.

    After that things just got really bizarre! There were all these discussions about "Avatar". "Who has Avatar?" You'd ask people about "Avatar" and they'd ask, "who told you about 'Avatar'?" People got more and more serious about it. You'd ask about "Avatar" they'd yell at you, "what, you want to get killed?!?" One day, I decided I was going to go try and find "Avatar". I walked through the parking lot later and people were hunched over pointing at me...

    Well, many years passed by and I never heard a word about "Avatar". Then, about seven or eight years ago, I was having dinner with a good friend of mine, Stephanie Austin. She's a big producer; she produced "Terminator 2," I mean, she's that caliber of producer. Well, "Avatar" comes up in our conversation and it turns out that she knows the story and all about "Avatar." Furthermore, she buys into the "Avatar" theory, sheâ(TM)s in that whole circle. The last thing she says to me about "Avatar" is, "we know who has 'Avatar'â¦Cameron has it."

    Now, I know Cameron and he is a really strange guy. I saw a lot of the filming of "T-2", and I talked to Cameron a lot. Let me tell you, Cameron is really loopy, he thinks all of the stuff he makes movies about is true. He once said, "I'm making a film about the truth." According to Austin, Cameron had had "Avatar" for a while, but he, "couldn't find the right actors for it."

    Keep in mind, this "Avatar" thing isn't a heaven versus hell kind of thing, there are layers of heavens, like onions. Now, I used to go on avatar hunts with students, and sometimes we wouldn't find them, and sometimes we would. One time, we went to the Martini Bar on Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena and we found two female avatars. I swear, their eyes glowed. They looked like they had dropped out of heaven ten minutes ago. We talked to them for a while w

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    1. Re:Crazy story.... by evanbd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now, this is one student's transcription as best as he could. The story changes a lot with each telling, but it's always hilarious. The best part of it, of course, is that the professor either totally believes it or is the best troll ever.

      Troll? Hardly. That precise format is how all the best ghost stories get told. It sounds to me like most of the audience simply wasn't used to oral storytelling as an art form.

  18. Re:And when.. by jeffshoaf · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bigger question is; When we DO get 3D porn will it make you believe, and create the memory, that you've had actually sex? And if it does; hi to you population decrease.

    And a lot fewer comments posted on Slashdot...

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  19. 11 billion? is nothing. was Re:Hype, nothing by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What is 11 billion to our Federal Government? It gives 10 times that much money to bail out AIG every quarter. Almost.

    When Christopher Columbus was trying to get funding for his expedition, he finally persuaded Queen Isabella and Ferdinand that the cost of three ships, provisions, crew pay all put together is less than what Her Majesty Q Isabella was spending to entertain visiting aristocratic guests for three weeks.

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  20. Re:And when.. by keytoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    DON'T DATE ROBOTS!

  21. Re:And when.. by eataTREE · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somehow, I manage not to have sex, without the benefit of this amazing technology you describe...

  22. Addiction is only a part of the problem by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    3D is just a gateway to harder dimensions. Just wait until you see your kids sitting on street corners with multicolored glasses on mainlining 4- and 5-D. Nothing less than the complete collapse of society as we know it is at stake.