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Apple Rejects Nine Inch Nails iPhone App

jarrettwold2002 writes "Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails announced via his Twitter account today, 'Apple rejects the NIN iPhone update because it contains objectionable content. The objectionable content referenced is "The Downward Spiral."' The initial NIN Access iPhone app garnered much fanfare (Wired article, Guardian article) and was approved by Apple. The update has been rejected due to an album reference. If Nine Inch Nails is having problems with censorship and approval what kind of problems are you having with the iPhone app approval process?"

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  1. Gee. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looking at his Twitter feed, who woulda thought that Trent would be such a boring twit?

    Oh, so THAT'S how it got its name.

  2. Mistake on Apple's part by rob1980 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not really into NIN but I watched the Youtube video explaining what the app is. This is something Apple should be promoting because it does a pretty good job of taking advantage of the platform's capabilities - not suppressing because it contains a reference to a 15-year old album.

  3. Fuck any platform where the vendor must approve... by syousef · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fuck any platform where the vendor must approve content. (In this case that means fuck Apple, which immediately means I get modded up and down until the fanboi zealots are the only ones modding and I end up with a -1).

    We've seen open platforms dwindle in past years. PC gaming is in decline. Most consoles need all manner of hack and mod to run home brew content. Hell even GPS APIs (like TomToms) have been discontinued on newer models. We've gone from a society of tinkerers where the best idea wins to an increasingly IP law based profit model that stiffles innovation.

    Hell I don't even understand why objectionable content needs to be censored like this. For the most part don't buy it if you're offended. For the truely heinous stuff like that shake a baby to death iPhone app that was in the news lately, existing laws should be brought to bear if applicable. ...and you know what? I say this knowing that I fucking can't stand NIN music. As far as I'm concerned the only thing close to being any good they ever did was Closer, and that sold more on novelty and shock factor (and as a shagging song) than anything else.

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    These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
  4. Re:Fuck any platform where the vendor must approve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fuck any platform ...

    ... like an animal?

  5. Re:I own a record store. by Snarky+McButtface · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh my. The Christians are pirating music?

  6. What the hell?! by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple sells The Downward Spiral on iTunes!

    Apple is starting to sound like Sony, where two (or more) competing ideologies threaten to drag the entire company down. Jobs needs to issue a set of objective, fair guidelines that apply across ALL content Apple sells on ALL of its storefronts. And yes, those guidelines need to come from His Steveness Himself, so that random lackeys in the App Store aren't left making judgment calls on the company's strategic direction.

    This really is pretty outrageous; if you've seen the advance publicity for the NIN app, you'd probably agree that it was looking impressive as hell.

    1. Re:What the hell?! by Plunky · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I want to fuck you like an animal / I want to feel you from the inside" is deliberately one of the most inflammatory chorus lines ever seen in the mainstream.. moms seeing those slick iphone commercials and thinking of buying one for christmas might freak if they heard about that song being "promoted" on the app store that their kid will be browsing innocently.

      Um, how do you suppose they got to be moms in the first place?

      and, I don't understand how its 'inflammatory'? It is crude but hey, thats what immature is all about..

    2. Re:What the hell?! by DMalic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I see this as a "risk" to the public of locked down devices. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a big deal, but it still pisses me off.

    3. Re:What the hell?! by cdwillis · · Score: 5, Informative

      That novelty band, Presidents of the United States of America, already has a streaming music app: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/bands-bypass-itunes-by-streaming-music-through-iphone-apps.ars

      The Presidents of the United States of America isn't a novelty band.

      Most fans don't care about where their money goes; have no inclination to design artwork for you; and might be a little confused about why your app wants their credit card number.

      Most fans. Nine Inch Nails fans are not most fans.

    4. Re:What the hell?! by Sebilrazen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Parent is correct about NIN fans.

      Nine Inch Nails fans have allowed Trent to leave the studio system behind, some of us even pay for the free content, like Ghosts I-IV and The Slip.

      I do it because if I like an artist I want what the artist comes up with, not what the studio says the artist needs to produce to make something marketable. Hell I do it even if I normally don't like the artist because I want the artists to move to self production and dissemination. Jill Sobule and Saul Williams have released Studio-less discs.

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      "There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.
    5. Re:What the hell?! by nabsltd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, after years of selling you DRM-infested music, Apple was one of the first* to ask to be able to sell without DRM so that they could re-sell you the same music, thus milking you for every penny as the GP said.

      *By "one of the first", I mean "third or fourth out of the six or seven large downloadable music stores". EMusic, Amazon and others all offered DRM-free music before the Apple iTunes store.

  7. Trent's philosophy doesn't match with Apple's by mister_playboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Trent Reznor is the artist with the most tech savvy attitude on the planet, at least as far as popular acts go. He currently has no record label contract and surely will never again have one, he has released music for free (as in beer), and has released music under the CC license, allowing fans to freely share and remix it. He has leaked his own material (the Broken Movie and the Closure DVD) to The Pirate Bay to overcome legal entanglements, because he wanted his music out there for people to hear. Like his music or not or not, you have to give him some credit for breaking out of the mainstream and proving the old record label system of doing things is not a necessity and can be overcome.

    His attitudes resonate with a lot of us here on /. and I wouldn't be surprised if he is a member of this site.

    Apple should reconsider... Trent has probably made the majority of his music on Apple computers, so he is a highly visible user of their products, not just "some musician". They should have embraced the marketing opportunity presented here.

    I hope Trent shuns them for this... Apple's control freak attitude does not match with Trent's embrace of freedom, in both the monetary and the speech sense of the word. I say he is a trailblazer, the first big artist of the post RIAA/copyright dominated world. The first artist of the 21st century and the digital information age.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law ::: Love is the law, love under will
  8. Amazing.... by Eric+Freyhart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been a developer for over 30 years. My first application (we called them "programs" back then) was on the TRS-80 microcomputer sold by Radio Shack. In all this time I have seen a very disturbing trend towards closed operating systems and platforms. If the automotive industry operated the same way, you would be forced to only buy service and parts from "authorized" centers and distributors. This was long ago outlawed by state and federal regulations. If Microsoft were to only allow "approved" applications on their OS (computer or mobile), the federal government would be looking at a major case against their anti-competitive behaviour. Is there really a clause in the TOS for iPhone developers that they cannot say anything about a rejected application? Wow. I cannot understand how any company in todays market can get away with that. Well, lets see... Microsoft: open and free development for their platform, and will run on multiple hardware configurations. Google: open and free development for their platform, and will run on multiple hardware configurations. Apple: closed platform with final say of any application developed, and with a percentage of all applications being paid to Apple Corp. Can someone tell me again why I should by an iPhone? Can someone tell me why Apple has not been taken to court? Can someone explain to me the hype on why Apple is so much better than MS?