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Office 2007SP2 ODF Interoperability Very Bad

David Gerard writes "Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 claims support for ODF 1.1. With hard work and careful thinking, they have successfully achieved technical compliance but zero interoperability! MSO 2007sp2 won't read ODF 1.1 from any other existing application, and its ODF is only readable by the CleverAge plugin. The post goes into detail as to how it manages this so thoroughly."

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  1. Re:What did we expect? by Vanders · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes but Microsoft said that it'd be different this time and they've changed, they really have, and they don't mean to hurt you but baby you just don't understand that when you can't keep your pretty little mouth shut then sometimes need a slap for your own good.

    I might be confusing Microsoft with a wife beater, but the mentality is roughly the same it seems.

  2. I'm shocked! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    MS, a for-profit company, refuses to embrace a format that gives an advantage to their open-source free competitors? Surely not!

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  3. Re:Really? by TechForensics · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bloody hell. I wonder why they would ever want to ship a software product that did that.

    You must be new here. (grin)

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  4. Next stop - customer support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that'll be good for some fun calls to customer support.

  5. Re:What did we expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Say what you will about Microsoft, but I'll start using Linux on my production machines when I want to start losing money. Get the facts, people.

  6. Re:They also claim Windows supports Posix by wild_quinine · · Score: 5, Funny

    As they also claim Microsoft Windows is Posix compliant! It is simply to be able to tic a "mandated" requirement in some government procurement, not as something one would actually use or deploy.

    Ah, I think you might have misread that one. The latest version of Windows is fully compliant with the ISO's 'Piece of Shit v9' standard. POS IX, not POSIX.

  7. Re:What did we expect? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I might be confusing Microsoft with a wife beater, but the mentality is roughly the same it seems.

    What do you tell a user with two black eyes?

    (I propose that the answer is "Did you really think Apple was different from Microsoft?" but that might not win me too many points around here. The converse would work almost as well, but nobody would have believed that Microsoft was the good guys.)

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  8. Re:What did we expect? by Phreakiture · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you tell a user with two black eyes?

    Nothing. He's already been told twice.

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  9. Re:What did we expect? by click2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I dont see why you're comparing MS to congress. Why not compare it to being eaten by a shark (with frikkin laser beams if thats your thing) or abducted by aliens.

    Congress doesn't have a history of lying to people... oh hang on
    Congress doesn't have a history of screwing the public for money/business interests... wait a minute..
    Congress... errr.. never mind

    Also... uTorrent isnt open source.

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  10. Re:Never ascribe to malice... by jank1887 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm waiting for the Microsoft Knowledgebase article explaining the incompatibility and showing you how to fix the problem by using the Save As function and selecting the .XLSX type.

  11. Pigs by xouumalperxe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seems the pigs took a trip to the airport, but then failed to achieve take off

  12. Re:What did we expect? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, it is different. Hence not compatible.

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  13. Re:Badly Specified Standard by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 2, Funny

    "We recommend your implementation does not set fire to the user's house, rape his dog nor feed chicken to the fish."

    - Oh, but boss, that's just a _recommendation_. So technically we could do the latter three and still be compliant with the letter of the specification!

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  14. Re:What did we expect? by hoggoth · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Microsoft said that it'd be different this time and they've changed,

    Damn it, I voted for change this time. I want my change.

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  15. Re:Agreed ... interoperability harms Microsoft by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Ok, let's assume they were malicious and all they worried about was lock-in."

    To really add flavor to the discussion, let us further assume that planet Earth is spherical, and space is pretty big.

    "Why break the reading part?"

    Because you look ridiculous claiming you were able to follow the standard for reading documents, but unable to do so when writing them?

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  16. Re:What did we expect? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    For posting that link on /. I hereby bow before you and acknowledge that, you sir, indeed have balls of extraordinary magnitude.

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  17. Re:What did we expect? by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Funny
    And a time when Hitler was the savior of Germany.

    Godwin'd!

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  18. Re:What did we expect? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Funny

    > But how do they "force" MS to do anything

    Doh, how do Governments force people to do stuff? Just jail the people at the top of MS in the relevant countries. If they refuse to go to jail, send people authorized to inflict force and violence to drag them off to jail.

    That's well within the authority of any country which MS operates in.

    You don't even have to fine at all. Once you start jailing top executives, they'll start taking things really seriously.

    After all, if you're a CEO, the fines don't really come out of your pocket[1].

    But time in prison comes out of your lifespan.

    [1] They might in theory affect your bonus etc, but in practice just look at the AIGs of the world.

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  19. Re:Never ascribe to malice... by UncleTogie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only person who reads that extension aloud as "Ex-Lax"?

    Actually, the first two times I read it, it parsed as "Excel sucks."

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  20. Re:What did we expect? by vtcodger · · Score: 2, Funny

    I believe that recent medical research has shown that ball size is inversely proportional to IQ.

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  21. Re:What did we expect? by griffjon · · Score: 2, Funny

    One thing you can say in Microsoft's defense, though -- they've really cut down the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish cycle. Remember when it took like years for them to go through that?

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  22. Re:What did we expect? by digidave · · Score: 2, Funny

    HALT (Happens All The Time)

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  23. Re:What did we expect? by Thinboy00 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, the first link is already Slashdotted. Headers:

    HTTP/1.x 404 Not Found
      [wow, that's not what the error page said at all!]
    Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
      [gee, what a surprise!]
    Content-Length: 3855

    Content-Type: text/html

    Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:25:43 GMT
      [GMT? c'mon, this is a computer; say "UTC" or get a real clock!]
    Connection: keep-alive

    Vary: Accept-Encoding

    Maybe (random conspiracy theory). Or perhaps you just messed up the link (Internet archive, Google, et al. have never heard of it).

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  24. Re:What did we expect? by pohl · · Score: 2, Funny

    I assume you've heard the expression, "hung like a horse"?

    Yes, but for someone even more well endowed I prefer the expression "hung like windows".

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