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Apple Rumored To Want To Buy Twitter

OSXGlitch writes "A post on TechCrunch this morning extends the rumor that Apple wants to buy Twitter with part of their massive cash reserve (estimated at nearly $29B). The Twitterverse is alive with speculation that the price being discussed is $700 million. This goes against reports that Twitter's founders aren't interested in selling, and that they estimate the value of the company at around $250 million. Two questions: How do we all feel about the possibility of Apple owning Twitter? And, can Twitter decline an offer that is nearly three times their estimated worth?"

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  1. I will quit twitter by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and nothing of value will be lost.

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    1. Re:I will quit twitter by Stele · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've never used twitter...

      ...and nothing of value will be lost.

    2. Re:I will quit twitter by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If anything, this is just an attempt to link Twitter to a company that has a very large wad of cash (which isn't that common right now), as well as one that mass name recognition (namely Apple), in order to increase Twitter's apparent value, either for more funding or to sell part/all of the company to somebody else.

      Nobody at Apple is stupid enough to buy an SMS service.

      If there was somebody this dumb at Apple, they would have already spent way to much for an instant messaging service (I bet you could buy AOL's IM service at fire-sale prices if you took the rest of AOL with it from TimeWarner).

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    3. Re:I will quit twitter by Mean+Variance · · Score: 5, Insightful

      any privately held company is under no compulsion to sell anything regardless of incentive.

      Yeah. Craigslist immediately comes to mind.

  2. Don't care. by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter could be owned by the legion of doom and it still wouldn't make it interesting or remotely useful.

  3. Value based on what, exactly? by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And, can Twitter decline an offer that is nearly three times their estimated worth?"

    And how exactly was that value derived? Value is based on the present value of future earnings, and AFAIK, twitter has none. Any number in the hundreds of millions of dollars should be seriously looked at. What I don't understand is what Apple would do with Twitter.

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    1. Re:Value based on what, exactly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe Apple wants to spread the rumor to drive up their stock price.

      Why do you think a rumor that Apple might buy Twitter would raise it's stock price?

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    2. Re:Value based on what, exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The value is based on a consistent 24/7 wankfest known as Twitter, and a large base of 21st century snake oil salesmen aka social media commentators.

      Want to see what Twitter is really about? Go watch it during a large scale emergency (find out whatever the hashtag is, then watch the bullshit fly in). It's the biggest wankfest in the history of wankfests. Every second comment is something like, "OMG TWITTER HAS COME OF AGE" or "OMG TWITTER IS REALLY SHINING THROUGH ON THIS EMERGENCY".

      But when you look past the bullshit, it's just the same shit OVER AND OVER with nothing of value offered whatsoever. People linking to already existing news stories. People retweeting non-sourced rumors. You could subscribe to a variety of RSS news feeds and get the same (but better) information, or go down to the local bar and listen to drunk guy offer his opinion.

      I have watched twitter during the Victorian Bushfires, and the recent Israel-Palestine debacle. Both times the majority of the tweets were crap. They didn't offer shit, it was a mish-mash of chaos, rumors, linking to news sources, and poor information.

      Seriously, the media severely overplays the value of twitter. Probably cause it's the ultimate representation of the 21st century: mass democracy (everyone has an opinion) + short sound bites for the ADHD/MTV generation = popularity with black rimmed glasses wearing social media nerds.

      Don't get me wrong, there are some parts of it that are ok. If you had an existing (closed) social network it'd be alright to communicate to each other (but you could do the same on facebook).

  4. Why? by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there really much point in buying twitter? How difficult a thing is it to write that application? Or is the purpose almost entirely to grab the existing users?

    And how would this fit into Apple's strategy? I could think of much better ways that Apple could extend their MobileMe service.

    The whole thing seems slightly fishy to me.

  5. Grab the money and run by hwyhobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This reminds me of Novell buying Word Perfect. Paid over a billion dollars, couldn't sell for $100m just years later if their life depended on it. If Twitter refuses the offer, they are dumber than a sack of bricks. In a few years no one will pay attention to them. Just another useless, 15-minute-of-fame "Oprah technology".

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  6. Was getting bored with Twitter anyway by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At first milidly interested in the technology, eventually appalled at the general lack of content.

    Or to put it another way, twitter is the sound of millions of people collectively discovering they have nothing important to say. Or in today's "Pickles", "Is it me, or is the world getting sillier and sillier?"

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  7. Re:Why? by s73v3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its more than the application. Its the millions of users that come with it.

  8. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by s73v3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter doesn't fit in with Apple's core business model, and Apple doesn't seem to like wasting money and time on stuff that doesn't make them lots of money in return. What happened to the good ol days of Apple speculative rumors, when the rumors were at least plausible?

  9. Re:Why? by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter is hugely popular and has no earthly idea how to capitalize on that popularity without killing itself. It's like every other Web fad, before long it's going to fade away and be replaced by something at least as inane as it is.

    The only hope for the Twitter founders is to sell to someone with deep pockets and few brains as quickly as possible. I don't know why Apple would want it, but maybe some old media company with more money than brains would.

  10. Re:Why? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And so did GeoCities and AOL but that didn't work out too well for Yahoo and Time Warner respectively. Users are fickle. They will move to other apps as trends dictate. Really I don't see the benefit to Apple. Now Apple might be talking to Twitter about better collaboration and integration.

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  11. Re:Why? by keytoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its more than the application. Its the millions of users that come with it.

    And how many of those millions aren't already included in the millions they have from the iPhone? Or the iTunes Music Store?

    No, I don't buy it - and I bet Apple won't either!

  12. Re:Business Plan by rackserverdeals · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ??? used to be selling the attention you generate on your free service to advertisers. Google AdSense being the most profitable one for many. But it seems like the attention economy is coming to an end, or at least the potential has been greatly reduced.

    Twitter doesn't include ads in their tweets or even on their website. According to this Create a Revenue Model for Twitter contest they don't generate any revenue.

    Twitter isn't worth anything right now other than what investors would like to get back if they sell. I can't think of any way that their customer base could financially benefit any other company. The folks at Twitter seem to be in the same boat since they haven't been able to generate any significant revenue from their users.

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  13. Re:Why? by randombilly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmmm.. I imagine that if I had 29 BILLION dollars burning a hole in my pocket, I might consider buying the single most talked about web trend in current times; if for nothing more than to make my parent company among the most talked about things in current times. Good business sense.

  14. Brand Name by Tokerat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter has a very well known brand-name, probably about half of which comes from people bitching about it, or cracking jokes ("ok poop is coming out"). The application itself is nothing short of a status message, which where defined as early as May, 1993 (RFC 1459, Section 5.1) or earlier (RFC 742, December 1977 - finger w/plan), and there are dozens of "microblogging" sites out there already.

    If anyone buys Twitter, it will only be for the most over hyped and thus well-known up-and-coming brand names of the last couple years.

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  15. Re:Twitcher by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    reminds me of selling a pencil at 50% loss but 'making it up in volume'.

    Easy :

    The quick buck artist pencil seller:

    1. Sell pencil at a 50% loss
    2. Jab pencil in buyer's eye socket
    3. Offer to remove said pencil for 5,000% PROFIT

    The scare-monger pencil seller:

    1. Sell pencils at 50% loss
    2. Start rumour that they cause lead poisoning
    3. Sell "anti-lead-poisoning kits" at mega-PROFIT

    The commodities market manipulator pencil seller:

    1. Sell pencils at 50% loss
    2. Sell pencil sharpener at 5,000% PROFIT
    3. Stop selling pencils and create artificial pencil shortage
    4. Offer to buy pencils at 1,000% over original price
    5. Have confederate sell pencils to speculators at "only" a 500% markup - PROFIT
    6. Announce that pens are the new pencils, buy back speculators pencils at 1 cent on the dollar
    7. Move to another town, lather, rinse, repeat
  16. Twitter - "triumph of humanity" by BlackSabbath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter. Triumph of humanity

    I admit I don't get the fascination.

    Technically, its DIY IRC channel meets party-line SMS. Cool. The "how" I get.

    But WHY? The "why" completely escapes me. Is Twitter more profound than the inanity of IRC and the incessant texting of pubescent students on public transport?

    At best it looks like a way to share spontaneous brain dumps with mates, at worst it seems like a pathetic attempt at social closeness between a bunch of strangers you wouldn't even look at if you bumped into them.

    Whatever it is - if Twitter is humanity's triumph then we're f**ked.

    Either that or I'm an old fart.

    1. Re:Twitter - "triumph of humanity" by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To the celebrity-obsessed, it allows following of celebrities like no gossip-rag ever could.

      That's it right there, you nailed it. Twitter is a tool to help people follow the lives of other people. That's why it seems like it has little to no worth for people who are more interested in living their own lives than following others.

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    2. Re:Twitter - "triumph of humanity" by Al+Al+Cool+J · · Score: 3, Insightful

      http://search.twitter.com/

      Want to know what's happening right now in that major sporting event (or get an update on a somewhat more obscure sporting event)? Want to hear people's views on that great episode of the TV show you just watched, or the latest takes and interesting links on the world's breaking news events.

      If there's buzz about anything or anyone worth buzzing about, you can get it in real time. The world's opinions, raw and unfiltered, aggregated instantly.

      I've been plodding around the Internet for 15 year, and this is the closest I've seen to something that lets you feel the pulse of the beast.

  17. twitterverse? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd like to meet the person that coined the word "twitterverse". And hurt them. A lot.

  18. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that's why they need twitter, if they control twitter they can make the rumors believable again and this allows them to make more money!

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  19. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apple. Twitter. What do they have in common?

    Hipsters use both.

  20. One of the Classic Blunders by Kelson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most famous, of course, is "Never start a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Just because you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that no one can."

  21. Re:One thing is for certain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't it better to be at a bar with 100 friendly losers than sitting in your moms basement telling Slashdot how useless twitter is?