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Apple Rumored To Want To Buy Twitter

OSXGlitch writes "A post on TechCrunch this morning extends the rumor that Apple wants to buy Twitter with part of their massive cash reserve (estimated at nearly $29B). The Twitterverse is alive with speculation that the price being discussed is $700 million. This goes against reports that Twitter's founders aren't interested in selling, and that they estimate the value of the company at around $250 million. Two questions: How do we all feel about the possibility of Apple owning Twitter? And, can Twitter decline an offer that is nearly three times their estimated worth?"

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  1. I will quit twitter by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and nothing of value will be lost.

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    1. Re:I will quit twitter by Stele · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've never used twitter...

      ...and nothing of value will be lost.

    2. Re:I will quit twitter by Animaether · · Score: 5, Funny

      your post is true both ways ;)

      <QuantumG> I will quit twitter
      <Twitter> and nothing of value will be lost

    3. Re:I will quit twitter by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If anything, this is just an attempt to link Twitter to a company that has a very large wad of cash (which isn't that common right now), as well as one that mass name recognition (namely Apple), in order to increase Twitter's apparent value, either for more funding or to sell part/all of the company to somebody else.

      Nobody at Apple is stupid enough to buy an SMS service.

      If there was somebody this dumb at Apple, they would have already spent way to much for an instant messaging service (I bet you could buy AOL's IM service at fire-sale prices if you took the rest of AOL with it from TimeWarner).

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    4. Re:I will quit twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      i could offer you $50 to sell me your genitals

      and nothing of value will be lost.

    5. Re:I will quit twitter by Mean+Variance · · Score: 5, Insightful

      any privately held company is under no compulsion to sell anything regardless of incentive.

      Yeah. Craigslist immediately comes to mind.

    6. Re:I will quit twitter by MCSEBear · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hopefully, the cycle of companies with large expenses and no profits being purchased by the stupid will come to an end. We all know how profitable Skype has been for after eBay paid 2.6 Billion dollars for them. Not to even mention how profitable Youtube has been since Google paid a mere 1.65 Billion dollars for them.

      Apple is sitting on a buttload of cash right now, but wouldn't it be a hell of a lot more logical for them to build a fab with it? They certainly have been gathering in a whole lot of chip design expertise lately.

    7. Re:I will quit twitter by Yizzerin · · Score: 5, Informative
      I think your general point has merit, but your examples might not be 100% correct.

      We all know how profitable Skype has been for after eBay paid 2.6 Billion dollars for them.

      Skype actually has been profitable recently. That said, Skype does not match up well with eBay's overall business model and I remember reading that they are looking to sell it.

      Not to even mention how profitable Youtube has been since Google paid a mere 1.65 Billion dollars for them.

      Could it be a branding/goodwill tool that also helps them drive users to their search? They certainly paid an exorbitant amount for the eventual profitability, regardless, but Google and YouTube are now both cultural icons.

    8. Re:I will quit twitter by MeatBag+PussRocket · · Score: 5, Funny

      isin't being pedantic like being redundant, only more annoying?

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    9. Re:I will quit twitter by Firehed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      During the time of the YouTube acquisition, it was often discussed that they might have done it in order to set precedents for copyright laws and other distribution-related stuff (net neutrality, etc.) since Google has better lawyers than YouTube could have hoped to afford at the time. Theory being that if Youtube was sued, they wouldn't have the funding to fight unfair charges and a precedent would be set against them and other providers of free content; whereas with Google backing them they'd have the funding and/or legal team to win and have it go in their favor. It sucks that our court system favors who has the better lawyers and not what's actually in the law books, but that's life.

      Skype, on the other hand, was just a stupid choice by eBay. But you can't expect much different from a company that's founded around the very concept of bad buying decisions.

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  2. The Guardian says this is hot air by levell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This Guardian article argues that the story is complete hot air, the two sources (Tech Crunch and ValleyWag) are both unconvinced themselves and the Twitter execs seem to be in the wrong part of the US to be locked into negotiations with Apple.

    Leaving aside whether it is true or not, it seems a very strange fit. Apple doesn't seem to gain very much in its core business from the acquisition

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    1. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by s73v3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Twitter doesn't fit in with Apple's core business model, and Apple doesn't seem to like wasting money and time on stuff that doesn't make them lots of money in return. What happened to the good ol days of Apple speculative rumors, when the rumors were at least plausible?

    2. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 5, Funny

      What happened to the good ol days of Apple speculative rumors, when the rumors were at least plausible?

      kdawson?

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    3. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think Apple and Twitter are a perfect fit.

      I think Microsoft and Twitter are a perfect fit.

      There, fixed it for you.

      New rumour:

      "Microsoft, after cutting another 3,000 workers today, announced that they will be buying Twitter, the sms service that doesn't know how to make money, with the savings. In a cooperative deal with Disney, it will now be rebranded as TweetyPie Live, and will include such features as Microsoft Office integration.

      As Steve Balmer said, "We're excited about this deal. Now you'll be able to update your spreadsheet literally in a tweet. And for all those laid-off Microsofties, you'll be able to dynamically update your resumes from the next version of Word, provided you respect the license not to tweet anything bad or derogatory, or publish negative benchmarks, or say that I need deodorant as much as RMS does.

      We're also going to integrate it with Microsoft Live Search so that we can use Microsoft AdVantage to generate more pay-per-click revenue from the tweet stream. And we'll import the smilies from MS - Messenger. And give it a ribbon bar. And embed it in your car mp3 player, so you can tweet-n-drive. This will be big! It has the potential to be the next Zune!

    4. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Apple. Twitter. What do they have in common?

      Hipsters use both.

    5. Re:The Guardian says this is hot air by xenocide2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The question then is, who started the rumor? Probably the twitter execs themselves, who are in negotiations with a different party and need some leverage to prop a valuation greater than zero.

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  3. Don't care. by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter could be owned by the legion of doom and it still wouldn't make it interesting or remotely useful.

  4. Value based on what, exactly? by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And, can Twitter decline an offer that is nearly three times their estimated worth?"

    And how exactly was that value derived? Value is based on the present value of future earnings, and AFAIK, twitter has none. Any number in the hundreds of millions of dollars should be seriously looked at. What I don't understand is what Apple would do with Twitter.

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    1. Re:Value based on what, exactly? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe Apple wants to spread the rumor to drive up their stock price.

      Why do you think a rumor that Apple might buy Twitter would raise it's stock price?

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    2. Re:Value based on what, exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The value is based on a consistent 24/7 wankfest known as Twitter, and a large base of 21st century snake oil salesmen aka social media commentators.

      Want to see what Twitter is really about? Go watch it during a large scale emergency (find out whatever the hashtag is, then watch the bullshit fly in). It's the biggest wankfest in the history of wankfests. Every second comment is something like, "OMG TWITTER HAS COME OF AGE" or "OMG TWITTER IS REALLY SHINING THROUGH ON THIS EMERGENCY".

      But when you look past the bullshit, it's just the same shit OVER AND OVER with nothing of value offered whatsoever. People linking to already existing news stories. People retweeting non-sourced rumors. You could subscribe to a variety of RSS news feeds and get the same (but better) information, or go down to the local bar and listen to drunk guy offer his opinion.

      I have watched twitter during the Victorian Bushfires, and the recent Israel-Palestine debacle. Both times the majority of the tweets were crap. They didn't offer shit, it was a mish-mash of chaos, rumors, linking to news sources, and poor information.

      Seriously, the media severely overplays the value of twitter. Probably cause it's the ultimate representation of the 21st century: mass democracy (everyone has an opinion) + short sound bites for the ADHD/MTV generation = popularity with black rimmed glasses wearing social media nerds.

      Don't get me wrong, there are some parts of it that are ok. If you had an existing (closed) social network it'd be alright to communicate to each other (but you could do the same on facebook).

  5. Business Plan by MrMarket · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1) Launch free web service
    2) ???
    3) Profit

    Can someone remind me how Twitter makes money. Or, at least how to justify a $700 million valuation?

    1. Re:Business Plan by rackserverdeals · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The ??? used to be selling the attention you generate on your free service to advertisers. Google AdSense being the most profitable one for many. But it seems like the attention economy is coming to an end, or at least the potential has been greatly reduced.

      Twitter doesn't include ads in their tweets or even on their website. According to this Create a Revenue Model for Twitter contest they don't generate any revenue.

      Twitter isn't worth anything right now other than what investors would like to get back if they sell. I can't think of any way that their customer base could financially benefit any other company. The folks at Twitter seem to be in the same boat since they haven't been able to generate any significant revenue from their users.

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    2. Re:Business Plan by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Funny

      So how much would that make goatse worth?

      Let's just say its customer retention rate is very, very low. I'd pay $10 for it.

  6. Think of the ads.... by mevets · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello, this is a yahoo and I'm a twit...

  7. Grab the money and run by hwyhobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This reminds me of Novell buying Word Perfect. Paid over a billion dollars, couldn't sell for $100m just years later if their life depended on it. If Twitter refuses the offer, they are dumber than a sack of bricks. In a few years no one will pay attention to them. Just another useless, 15-minute-of-fame "Oprah technology".

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  8. Was getting bored with Twitter anyway by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At first milidly interested in the technology, eventually appalled at the general lack of content.

    Or to put it another way, twitter is the sound of millions of people collectively discovering they have nothing important to say. Or in today's "Pickles", "Is it me, or is the world getting sillier and sillier?"

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    1. Re:Was getting bored with Twitter anyway by timholman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or to put it another way, twitter is the sound of millions of people collectively discovering they have nothing important to say.

      Have you ever watched shows about tribes of baboons or chimps on PBS? And how they spend so much time grooming each other by picking the lice out of each others' hair?

      That's the mental image I get with any social network site. Lots of monkeys, picking the lice out of each others' hair. Except with Twitter, the monkeys shriek about who has found the biggest and juiciest lice, right before they eat them.

  9. Re:Why? by s73v3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its more than the application. Its the millions of users that come with it.

  10. Re:Why? by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter is hugely popular and has no earthly idea how to capitalize on that popularity without killing itself. It's like every other Web fad, before long it's going to fade away and be replaced by something at least as inane as it is.

    The only hope for the Twitter founders is to sell to someone with deep pockets and few brains as quickly as possible. I don't know why Apple would want it, but maybe some old media company with more money than brains would.

  11. Re:Why? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And so did GeoCities and AOL but that didn't work out too well for Yahoo and Time Warner respectively. Users are fickle. They will move to other apps as trends dictate. Really I don't see the benefit to Apple. Now Apple might be talking to Twitter about better collaboration and integration.

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  12. How they COULD make money by presidenteloco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Find out interesting keywords in what people say they are doing or talking about.

    Advertise something local and highly related to that person, in the form of a discount offer or something.

    Google ads for the attention-span-of-a-gnat generation?

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  13. Re:Why? by keytoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its more than the application. Its the millions of users that come with it.

    And how many of those millions aren't already included in the millions they have from the iPhone? Or the iTunes Music Store?

    No, I don't buy it - and I bet Apple won't either!

  14. Brand Name by Tokerat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter has a very well known brand-name, probably about half of which comes from people bitching about it, or cracking jokes ("ok poop is coming out"). The application itself is nothing short of a status message, which where defined as early as May, 1993 (RFC 1459, Section 5.1) or earlier (RFC 742, December 1977 - finger w/plan), and there are dozens of "microblogging" sites out there already.

    If anyone buys Twitter, it will only be for the most over hyped and thus well-known up-and-coming brand names of the last couple years.

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  15. Twitter - "triumph of humanity" by BlackSabbath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Twitter. Triumph of humanity

    I admit I don't get the fascination.

    Technically, its DIY IRC channel meets party-line SMS. Cool. The "how" I get.

    But WHY? The "why" completely escapes me. Is Twitter more profound than the inanity of IRC and the incessant texting of pubescent students on public transport?

    At best it looks like a way to share spontaneous brain dumps with mates, at worst it seems like a pathetic attempt at social closeness between a bunch of strangers you wouldn't even look at if you bumped into them.

    Whatever it is - if Twitter is humanity's triumph then we're f**ked.

    Either that or I'm an old fart.

  16. twitterverse? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd like to meet the person that coined the word "twitterverse". And hurt them. A lot.

    1. Re:twitterverse? by Clandestine_Blaze · · Score: 4, Funny

      It must have been someone from the blogosphere *ducks*

  17. Re:One thing is for certain... by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Twitter is the most useless waste of time and human resource.

    I don't use it myself, but I've seen it come in handy on a number of occasions. I was at WWDC last year, and I went to a bar with a couple of friends. One of them posted where we were, and twenty minutes later we had a party with about a hundred people in attendance. Rather more convenient than looking up a bunch of people and calling them.

    -jcr

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  18. news flash! by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cupertino, CA, May 5, 2009 - Apple computer is rumored to be buying several flattened cigarette butts on the northwest corner of Castro St. and Central Expressway, in Mountain View, CA for $650 million. The cigarette butts are approximately 40 cm from the nearest curb edge. A squashed aluminum can, possibly a beer can, is in the gutter nearby. A paper bag with the partially wrapped remains of a beef burrito are also lying in close proximity to the cigarette butts, but do not appear to be part of the deal. In any event, a crow has been attempting to unwrap the burrito during most of the morning, presumably to abscond with the remains. Apple spokespersons declined to discuss the deal on the record, but it was made known later that the cigarette butts were in the middle of Silicon Valley, and therefore extremely valuable for that reason alone. One of the cigarette butts reportedly has lipstick stains, but that has not yet been confirmed.

  19. One of the Classic Blunders by Kelson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most famous, of course, is "Never start a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Just because you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that no one can."

  20. Re:One thing is for certain... by Macrat · · Score: 4, Funny
    Yeah, but you only got the lonely losers who read Twitter.

    All the really interesting people were at the real parties.

  21. Is it hugely popular? by taxman_10m · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was an article recently that said most twits quit a month after joining. How popular is it relative to facebook? myspace? friendster? My own impression is that it isn't very popular, it just has some very vocal users.