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CA Vs. MA In Battle Over Non-Compete Clause

Lucas123 writes "A case was filed with superior courts in California and Massachusetts involving a former EMC top executive who is trying work for HP. The case is throwing into relief Massachusetts's and California's differing approaches to non-compete clauses in employment contracts. California courts have argued that non-competes hamper a person's ability to traverse the marketplace freely for work, while Massachusetts courts say the agreements actually afford freedom to develop technology without the fear of IP theft."

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  1. Re:non competes only make sense when... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Uhuh. Or, alternatively, the company could hire lawyers who aren't complete morons, and they write up a contract which includes two termination options for the employer:

    a) Termination with non-compete, including continued pay for the duration, or
    b) Termination without non-compete

    If the company believes you possess knowledge that would be truly beneficial to their competitors, they can go with option a. For your mythical con-man, he gets option b.

  2. Re:non competes only make sense when... by _avs_007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife went through a law suit a few years ago for this... The Non-compete was eventually deemed unenforceable.

    Basically what they determined, is that the basis of a non-compete, is that the employee would be bringing something of value (which was obtained from the first employer) to a second employer, putting the first employer at a disadvantage...

    However, since my wife was laid off, it was determined that by laying her off, the first employer essentially deemed that she was no longer of any value to the company... Therefore, since her status was classified as not having any value to first employer, her employment by second employer does not place the first company at a disadvantage, because they already deemed her services as being not valuable to them.

    So basically that means, if you leave on your own accord, it may be enforceable.. But if you are fired or laid off, you cannot be held to a non-compete (In the state of Washington anyways), because by terminating your employment against your will, the company is admitting that you no longer possess anything of value to the company.

  3. So MA is bringing back slavery? by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because that's what it really amounts to. Spend more than a few years at a company, get really good at what you do. Then, if the company pisses you off, you are faced with three options:
    1) Bend over and take it.
    2) Completely change your profession, and start from scratch. All knowledge you have acquired has been rendered useless.
    3) Be unemployed for the term of the non-compete.

    Alright, so it isn't quite slavery. You're not caned if you stop working for the master. But it's a damn risky proposition to actually stand up to any abuse.

    Is any more proof necessary that overzealous IP laws will strangle our economy? As someone else pointed out, Silicon Valley is Silicon Valley because talent is free to move between companies.

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    Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
  4. So why are there non-competes in California? by PDG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for a California company, and they had me sign a non-compete. I asked them why considering that California courts will not enforce them. Response from the legal department--just in case the court changes their mind.

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    "Where is my mind?"
    1. Re:So why are there non-competes in California? by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I never refuse. I cross it off. I sign. And I ask that they initial the change.