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Apple Eyeing EA?

yerktoader writes "There are rumors that Apple might buy EA, but some interesting counterpoints abound. File this one firmly under 'unconfirmed,' but it's nevertheless a tantalizing rumor. According to Fast Money's Guy Adami, Apple is 'eyeing Electronic Arts as a takeover target.' EA is currently the second-largest games publisher in the world and owner of the smash hit NFL-licensed series of football games. Could we be facing the possibility of an iMadden? Well, probably not. Apple has indeed been bolstering its games know-how, hiring a major Xbox strategist away from Microsoft in recent weeks. And EA is no stranger to Apple platforms: in the last year it's brought several of its major franchises to the iPhone (with more on the way), including Sim City, Tiger Woods, and Spore, with considerable success. But it's a far cry from there to a takeover, and that's putting it mildly. Video games analyst Michael Pachter seems to agree. Speaking to Gamasutra, he pointed out that if Apple was looking to make some entertainment acquisitions, it could buy Warner Music — which controls 20% of the music industry — for roughly half of EA's estimated price."

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  1. What do you get combining Apple + gaming company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing.

  2. Again? by Norsefire · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many rumours of Apple wanting to buy companies is Slashdot going to post this week?

    1. Re:Again? by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe Apple are about to buy Slashdot?

    2. Re:Again? by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't help but think about the Cramer video where he talks about stock manipulation. If you don't want to watch the whole thing, skip right to around the 3 minute mark, where he's talking about calling reporters to start rumors.

      Now maybe this rumor is legit, or maybe it's just someone's flight of fancy, but these days, whenever I hear completely unconfirmed and seemly baseless rumors like "Apple might buy [insert company here]," it makes me think of Jim Cramer.

  3. Would be nice if it were true... by raydobbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    It would be really nice to see some quality EA titles for the Mac versus quick and sleazy ports - but it won't happen, and I am not saying that just because it's a rumor. Of course, if Apple really financially enticed EA to make titles for both PC and Mac - and *really* worked with developers to make games work on the Mac OS X platform to the levels of performance people come to expect from the PC only market - then EA could really make some money with games for the Mac.

    Sadly, as it is right now - they are more than happy to let Aspyr hoover up the residuals making sadly ported versions of their games on the Mac platform.

    1. Re:Would be nice if it were true... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 2, Funny

      Might be good for linux gaming too...

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    2. Re:Would be nice if it were true... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It would just be nice to see some quality EA titles.

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    3. Re:Would be nice if it were true... by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      dunno why your moded funny, for a game to work on mac it has to use openGL, combine that with wine and most of the windows versions will run pretty well under wine.

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  4. I'm not seeing the benefit for them to purchase EA by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It might be worth their while to buy a small stake in the company just to ensure that the blockbuster games get ported to Mac, but it wouldn't make much sense for them to buy the entire company. Although the gaming industry is getting bigger, I think it might be more beneficial for them to target the living room through something like their Apple TV. Otherwise they would need to release their own gaming console and even though they've got the money to burn, it's probably cost Microsoft some $8 billion just to get the point they're at now where they can start trying to make some of that back.

    It would probably make more sense for them to negotiate some deals where content providers would allow Apple to rent TV shows to iTunes customers for a fraction of what they charge for a purchase and get Apple TVs into as many homes as possible. If they could work some kind of worldwide distribution as well they could easily target the huge market that Hulu leaves out due to regional restrictions.

    Everyone seems to be spouting rumors about who Apple is going to acquire. I think someone saw how much coverage the Apple/Twitter buyout rumor got and decided that it'd be fun to garner a few additional hits to their blog or second rate news site. I think I'm going to go spin a rumor about Apple acquiring Adobe and pull in some ad revenue when other sites pick up the story and link to me. Of course, unlike all the other stories, this one is true. I have it on good authority from someone inside Apple and there's no reason I'd ever lie about that.

  5. Gamers are going to be pissed! by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    let me ask, how many major independent game companies are there?

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    1. Re:Gamers are going to be pissed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      None, EA Bought them all.

  6. How valuable is gaming to Apple's Ecosystem? by javacowboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Game developers are already writing apps for the iPhone/iPod touch.

    However, Mac gaming is in a pretty sorry state.

    There are also rumours that Apple will enable casual gaming on the AppleTV.

    Having the #1 game developer would certain help boost Apple's gaming platforms. The question is, how much are they willing to pay to do so? Apple traditionally doesn't pay much for acquisitions, preferring to buy small companies with promising technologies.

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  7. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by gravesb · · Score: 4, Informative

    EA has a market cap of 6.5 billion. Apple has over 20 billion in cash and short term investments. Even with a hefty control premium, they could easily acquire EA. If they were only interested in a majority share, so that they could force more consideration of their platforms, it's even easier.

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  8. Re:Remember when Apple was going to buy Nintendo? by Zackbass · · Score: 4, Informative

    How big the video game industry is? If you take 20 seconds to look it up you'd see that EA has a market cap of 6.49 billion vs Apple's market cap of 115.25 billion. Where do people keep getting the idea that EA is so big, they're literally a small fry compared to Apple.

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  9. Re:Remember when Apple was going to buy Nintendo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How big the video game industry is? If you take 20 seconds to look it up you'd see that EA has a market cap of 6.49 billion vs Apple's market cap of 115.25 billion. Where do people keep getting the idea that EA is so big, they're literally a small fry compared to Apple.

    You mean they're figuratively a small fry compared to Apple. You should look up the meaning of literal.

  10. Re:Can apple afford it by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A commenter above indicates that they could pay cash. Twice.

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  11. Re:Remember when Apple was going to buy Nintendo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He means literal in the figurative sense.

  12. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So exactly what have you done?

    I see a post on Slashdot full of claims but no links to anything of actual substance. You almost sound like Steve Balmer claiming he's going to DESTROY GOOGLE. The fire and brimstone is there, for sure, but that's about it.

    If you really want us to go along with your plan at least link to a website detailing what exactly it is you're doing. Your post is so vague that I'm not exactly sure what this 'stuff' I'm supposed to be doing entails. As far as I know, this wonderful Slashdot post is that first move you mentioned. I think you need a more defined cause before you try to rally people to it.

  13. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know if it's true any longer, but I recall that Apple had some obscene amount of cash on hand that they could use to buy out a lot of decently large companies.

    In fact, This recent news article states that they have around $29 billion just sitting around. It's no wonder everyone predicts they're going to buy company X.

    The only real question is whether or not they'll be able to find a company that would be a good fit for them. Twitter and EA don't really offer Apple anything that fits with their current business strategy. They want to sell expensive high-end Mac computers and iPhones. The iPod has saturated the market to the extent that they really don't need any acquisitions in that area.

    It would make more sense for them to throw a lot of money at Autodesk so that they would release a version of AutoCAD for the Macintosh. Think of how many high end workstations they'd sell to engineers and architects and other CAD users who could be convinced to try the Apple experience.

    You could argue that gamers are a high end market, and to some extent that's true, but they're the type of people who like to constantly upgrade a box to stay on the bleeding edge. Apple likes to sell you new boxes, but doesn't really like you to upgrade them incrementally with parts from Newegg from which they won't see a dime.

    If Apple topped out at 20% market share, but it was the professional market that purchased their top of the line, high profit margin machines, why should they care if they'll never crawl above that. Let the other PC markers enjoy their race to the bottom price wars to fight over the remaining 80%.

  14. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by Hatta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well I think you'd at least get a high energy burst of gamma rays.

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  15. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you want to know what direction Apple is taking, look at how they got to where they are now. Quite a few years ago, in fact this may have been pre- iPod (which is so long long ago in internet years that it's practically the Ice Age) Steve Jobs made an interesting statement about the future of Apple Computer. He was trying to explain where he saw Apple going. And the company he held out as a model wasn't Microsoft, or Dell, or any other software or hardware company. Steve Jobs said he wanted Apple to be the new Sony, that is, to be the leader in consumer electronics. At the time, I thought Jobs was either out of it, or being typically grandiose. But over the past ten years, this is exactly what Apple has done. They've moved from being a company that just makes desktop computers, to a company that makes digital music players, smartphones, laptops and desktops- almost all the devices you need to live, work, and play in the digital age.

    My prediction is that Apple will continue to do that. They want to be a leader in the consumer electronics field, and so they are going to spend those billions in a way that helps them do that. Does buying Twitter, a company without a business model, help them be a leader in the industry? If not, they're not gonna buy Twitter. Does buying EA help them be a leader in the industry? Apple makes hardware and software to operate that hardware, but they've never been much of a software company, so it doesn't help them.

    True, games is a huge market, and one that Apple has missed out on. But Jobs' ego dictates that Apple is a technology leader, not a follower. They don't want to be a 'me-too!' company by jumping into a market with a shiny white console when the console market is already saturated between the Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii. Apple conquered a new market with the iPod and is a serious contender in the emerging smartphone market. Apple will continue to tackle emerging technologies, not established technologies like game consoles. My guess is that Apple will (1) expanded into portable, networked electronics that fill the gap between phone and laptop, and (2) try to do for the TV what they already did for music. They've already tried that with Apple TV. It hasn't taken off yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

  16. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by onefriedrice · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly. Apple loves screwing us. Like when I installed Mac OS X, I was forced to enter this long stream of characters or the software would stop working. And I was way pissed when I had to call Cupertino to "reactivate" my license after I installed a new hard drive. They obviously love implementing any anti-piracy mechanisms they can at the expense of us poor consumers. Those greedy execs will use any anti-consumer strategy just to pad their pockets.

    Huh? Oh, this never happened? Well how about the fact that Apple sells DRM musicz!!@! They're obviously in love with DRM.

    What? They bought the rights from record companies to distribute non-DRM tracks by giving up their pricing strategy which was valuable to them?

    Sshhh. La la la, I'm not listening! Apple is teh evilz DRM-loving anti-consumer pig-dogs!! La la la la........

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  17. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Steve Jobs said he wanted Apple to be the new Sony, that is, to be the leader in consumer electronics. At the time, I thought Jobs was either out of it, or being typically grandiose. But over the past ten years, this is exactly what Apple has done.

    Very good point. The reason Apple is kicking Sony's ass from hell to breakfast is precisely because Sony can't decide whether they're a hardware company or a content company. They're a house divided against itself; every time the hardware guys want to do something cool, the packaged-entertainment side of the company overrules them.

    So, yeah, if Apple wants to be the next Sony, then buying EA is exactly what they'd do. And that would be great news for whatever startup is waiting in the wings to take Apple's place.

  18. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by cuban321 · · Score: 3, Informative

    As for point #1, replacing your DRM-laden songs. Now that is typical Apple - typical American corporate beast. They didn't even offer the option, trade up to DRM free (with higher sampling bitrate) for 30 cents.

    Incorrect, you can upgrade songs in your library to a higher quality DRM free version.

  19. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by schmiddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was able to see a PDF of the complaint you filed, but is there any more information available on this case? It looks like you filed in Nov/Dec 2008, but I couldn't find any updates on the case anywhere.

    Incidentally, I wouldn't go so far as to say I wholeheartedly agree with your lawsuit, but I admire you for having the backbone to take on EA in a court of law over their DRM garbage. Best of luck to you.

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  20. Re:Netbook by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do you fend of the netbook challenge, which Apple doesn't have a product in?

    Well, they have the most popular netbook: the iPhone/iTouch.

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  21. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by msimm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think someones been drinking the aquarium water.

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  22. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by strikethree · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, to be quite honest, Apple bricked (unable to reflash back to normal) my SuperDrive through a "security" update. The update was to prevent people from being able to rip DVDs. I did not even realize what had happened until after I replaced it.

    I wanted to rip a dvd so I stuck a dvd in my replacement superdrive and the ripping process errored out. I said hmmmmm. Performed some research, and searched for a flash update to unlock my drive... which is when I ran across numerous discussions about the model number of my previous drive. These discussions centered around a security update Apple pushed in November 2007 (iirc) which bricked that particular model number. Obviously, the intention was NOT to brick the drive, however, the drive was indeed bricked.

    I have bought 2 more laptops since then, neither of them Apple.

    strike

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  23. Re:What do you get combining Apple + gaming compan by John+Betonschaar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who gave you the impression making a living writing good software should be an easy ride? In the end it's the customers who buy the products, not the developers, so throwing crap out for better stuff at least benefits the people paying for the stuff. Them, and future developers who don't have to keep working with outdated API's that do not take full advantage of the latest hardware and software infrastructure.

    Yes, maybe a lot of developers might move off the Apple platforms because they don't want to adjust to newer tech, and this will leave all the more room for other developers who are willing to invest some extra time to make the better app. It's always been my impression that there's a lot less freeware/shareware/OSS for Apple (compared to windows and linux), but that the overall quality is a lot higher. Personally, I'd like to keep it that way.

    The MS dev tools are pretty good indeed, but they're not freely available like on OS X. As for the quality of the Apple dev tools themselves: you might not like Xcode but in the end it's simply gcc and friends that you'll be working with, and I think there's hardly any developers who think gcc is crap. Apple's performance tools are pretty good too, I still haven't found any usable *nix alternative for Shark.