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MPAA Says Teachers Should Camcord For Fair Use

unlametheweak recommends an Ars Technica piece detailing the convoluted lengths to which the MPAA will go in order to keep anybody from ripping a DVD, ever. The organization showed a film to the US Copyright Office, in the triennial hearing to spell out exemptions to the DMCA, giving instructions for how a teacher could use a camcorder to record a low-quality clip of a DVD for educational use — even though such a purpose is solidly established in law as fair use. "Never mind that this solution results in video of questionable quality and requires teachers to learn even more tech in order to get the job done. It also requires schools (or, given the way most schools are run, the teachers themselves) to incur additional costs to purchase camcorders and videotapes if they don't have them already. Add in the extra time involved, and this 'solution' is a laughably convoluted alternative to simply ripping a clip from a DVD."

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  1. Camcorder? Yeah right. by eggman9713 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, can't do that, teacher might use the camcorder to videotape students in the locker room.

    1. Re:Camcorder? Yeah right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You need to get modded left.

  2. well that explains it... by grapeape · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I know what that guy was doing behind me while I was watching Star Trek yesterday. He was just making a clip for fair use.

  3. This just in: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to the MPAA, it is a-okay to use a camcorder to record a movie!

    1. Re:This just in: by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

      At my college the professors just play the DVD directly, projected onto a large screen. MPAA be damned.

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  4. Kind of like... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny

    requiring you to defend yourself from a wild boar with a knife, even if you have a gun, just because it is not legal to have a gun where you live. (Even if you don't happen to have a knife.)

    BTW, like the MPAA, wild boars are vicious.

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    1. Re:Kind of like... by Sique · · Score: 3, Funny

      As someone who lives in a region with many wild boars, I have to say:

      If you ever manage to behave that badly that a wild boar feels enclined to attack you, I would trust you neither with a knife able to kill a boar, nor with a gun.

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    2. Re:Kind of like... by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

      We only use knifes when we take dogs. Its pretty easy to kill a boar with a knife, and I have never been "tusked" badly. Its also cheaper. When my Dad was hunting they used their fists.

      Boars have fists in your area ? Where are you hunting, Tchernobyl ?

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    3. Re:Kind of like... by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Spear hunting for wild boar -- now THERE's a real sport.

    4. Re:Kind of like... by Erikderzweite · · Score: 3, Funny

      >Boars have fists in your area ? Where are you hunting, Tchernobyl ?

      Wall Street.

    5. Re:Kind of like... by Kozz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Boar market?

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    6. Re:Kind of like... by cheftw · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are several varieties of "wild boar" (at least in N. America). Some are viscous...

      God help us all

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  5. Photocopying by basementman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given the technology skills most my teachers have had I can see them trying to put the dvd inside a photocopier and hoping for the best. Your average teacher couldn't rip a DVD, and why bother when you can just get any notable clip you want off youtube. Go fight with Google MPAA.

  6. The MPAA went on to say that by SirLurksAlot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Teachers may also make partial copies of a CD for education purposes by recording to a vinyl record and playing it back on a phonograph.

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  7. In related news by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    ThePirateBay.org registers the domain TheTeacherBay.org

  8. MPAA Graciousness and Generosity by eyepeepackets · · Score: 4, Funny

    One would expect the MPAA to suggest teachers use pantomime since this would please both themselves and the RIAA.

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    1. Re:MPAA Graciousness and Generosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The American Mime Association has been notified of your suggestion and is considering legal action.

    2. Re:MPAA Graciousness and Generosity by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're not going to say anything.

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  9. I can't wait by Moleculo · · Score: 5, Funny

    until Star.Trek.(2009).Mr.BeRNaRD.3rdPeRIod.SoCiALSTudiES.avi hits the scene.

  10. Re:Ridiculous, but somewhat scary. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even I (a soon to be unemployed law school graduate) didn't think that I could make this argument with a straight face even for tons of money.

    Don't worry, you'll learn.

  11. Re:not surprised. by Aerynvala · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or costs quite as much to get rid of.

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  12. Re:It doesn't matter what the MPAA says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I Agree completely, in fact I can remember Instances in School were a lot of classes Social studies, Science . . .

    I see in fact can Remember no English clases.

  13. Ha by rpillala · · Score: 3, Funny

    If NEA is as powerful as many around here think it is, the recording industry is going down.

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  14. Re:Good! by houghi · · Score: 2, Funny

    I doubt something will be done anytime soon.

    OTOH I do not see why teachers would be an exception. They should teaching us stuff, including what is right and what is wrong. Where did I do my first copyright violations? Yep, many many years before the Internet was available. I did it by making copies of books.

    Not only did I do that, my teacher told me to do so. Even then I knew something wrong was going on, as the first copy I was sure to make was the copyright notice. I thought it was pretty ironic. I also thought that it was allowed, because my teacher told me to do so.

    So if making copies is legal, what is all the fuzz about? In my mind if I do not make money of it by selling the copies, it s OK. (Luckily my government things about the same).

    So the teachers taught me wrong and as everybody knows, making copies is a stepping stone thing. One day you make a copy of your CD so it won't scratch and before you know it, you sell crack to kids to finance the terrorists.

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  15. The MPAA is right by Legion303 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We can't have teachers ripping DVD-quality clips all willy-nilly. Why, if someone got ahold of enough teachers, he could put all their clips together and re-create the original movie! In digital DVD quality! You pirates will surely roast in hell for even considering it.

  16. Re:"ripping", the word is visceral, "copy" is not by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 5, Funny

    'jena se qua'

    Who is that, a French porn star? The phrase you are looking for is je ne sais quoi.

  17. Re:Good! by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Funny

    First you start out stealing songs, then you're robbing liquor stores, and selling crack, and running over school kids with your carrrrrrrrr.....

    So don't download this song... </wierd al>

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  18. Re:"ripping", the word is visceral, "copy" is not by srussia · · Score: 2, Funny

    .

    You can't tell me that the notoriety of Jack the Ripper isn't in some part due to his name.

    Agree. "Elvis the Ripper" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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  19. Works for me! by mmell · · Score: 3, Funny
    I downloaded a copy of Star Wars, Episode III several years ago - I'm pretty sure it was made by this method.

    Okay, I'm pretty sure a movie theater screen was involved, rather than a television set, but the basic mechanism is essentially the same.

    I was only pursuing an education, honest! It's not fair - Obi-Wan trained Anakin Skywalker, but he wouldn't train me. I have to get my force training somewhere, don't I?

  20. It's an acronym by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

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