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Cone of Silence 2.0

Village Idiot sends word of a patent granted to MIT researchers for a cone of silence a la Maxwell Smart. This one doesn't use plastic, but rather active and networked sensors and speakers embedded in a (probably indoor) space such as an open-plan office. "In 'Get Smart,' secret agents wanting a private conversation would deploy the 'cone of silence,' a clear plastic contraption lowered over the agents' heads. It never worked — they couldn't hear each other, while eavesdroppers could pick up every word. Now a modern cone of silence that we are assured will work is being patented by engineers Joe Paradiso and Yasuhiro Ono of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ... Instead of plastic domes, they use a sensor network to work out where potential eavesdroppers are, and speakers to generate a subtle masking sound at just the right level. ... The array of speakers... aims a mix of white noise and randomized office hubbub at the eavesdroppers. The subtle, confusing sound makes the conversation unintelligible." One comment thread on the article wonders about the propriety of tracking people around an office in order to preserve privacy.

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  1. Solution looking for a problem. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just go into your office and CLOSE THE DOOR.

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    1. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by VagaStorm · · Score: 4, Funny

      I raise your closed office door by 1 hidden mic.

    2. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I raise your hidden mic by 1 masturbating gorilla.

    3. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by denzacar · · Score: 4, Funny

      That is about the last and final indicator that you should find another job - when a masturbating gorilla gets a raise but you are skipped over.

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    4. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by rxmd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I raise your closed office door by 1 hidden mic.

      From the summary:

      they use a sensor network to work out where potential eavesdroppers are

      And from the article:

      Knowing the position of the computer, the sensors identify the person and map out the locations of people around them. Software assesses who is so close that they must be participants in the conversation, and who might be a potential eavesdropper.

      Good luck using this to defeat hidden microphones. And if you can identify the location of hidden microphones, you don't need a cone of silence to defeat them.

      This is more like a surrogate closed office door for offices without doors. Whether that makes much sense as a whole remains another matter.

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    5. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

      happens all the time where I work. Typically they get a promotion, too.

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    6. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I dunno, I'd feel kinda bad for the gorilla if he couldn't get a raise.

      Wait... what are we talking about?

    7. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by BikeHelmet · · Score: 3, Informative

      That won't help you against one of these.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_microphone

      I happen to live in a small town, which doesn't have a lot of noise polution. One of my Uncles was a cop, and showed me a Parabolic Mic when I was younger. The thing lets you hear conversations inside a house an entire block away!

      Whenever I see TV shows where _EvilCorporation_ goes to the effort to bug a house with tiny mics, and there's a black van(or icecream truck!) sitting outside all the time, I can't help but laugh.

      If they want to know what you're saying, they don't have to get close to you or your house to do so!

    8. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wouldn't say that learning ASL exactly counts as simple. (Fun though... I took a semester of it in college just for the hell of it and it was pretty neat.)

      But you could easily substitute "write what you want to say on paper, then shred it".

    9. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 4, Funny

      Suround it with space heaters.

    10. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 4, Informative

      The best thing about learning ASL is that most of the students are female.

    11. Re:Solution looking for a problem. by RawsonDR · · Score: 3, Funny

      The best thing about learning ASL is that most of the students are female.

      No, they are only saying that. They are actually old, overweight bald men who use the internet to live out their fantasies.

      a/s/l?

  2. I'd imagine... by ViennaLen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agents: "Can you hear me now?"
    Eavesdroppers: "...... No.."

  3. Fricken Laser Beams by SteveTauber · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget folks: if you are speaking in a room with windows, a laser can be pointed at the windows to pick up on vibrations due to conversation. http://www.google.com/search?q=laser+window+eavesdrop

    1. Re:Fricken Laser Beams by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only a problem if you're near shark-infested water.

  4. Wow! Could submarines use this . . . ? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    . . . you can bet your hairy ass they do! They generate sound to exactly cancel out the sound of their propellers.

    . . . so that sound cancellation technology on your ear buds was pioneered/sponsored by the DoD back in the early '60s. It even used some of that newfangled "transistor" technology.

    Maybe the "Get Smart" gag was just misinformation to convince the Russians that the idea was asinine and would never work?

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  5. Shit... by meuhlavache · · Score: 3, Funny

    The array of speakers... aims a mix of white noise and randomized office hubbub at the eavesdroppers.

    And what if they use brown note?

  6. Less "Get Smart," more Dune... by solios · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been a ridiculously long time since I read Frank Herbert's Dune (or any of its sequels), but I remember at least one of the books had a couple of scenes with a "cone of silence" much along these lines.

    Anyone inside the field could communicate with each other; anyone outside the field couldn't hear them. For added security, the conversants would face the inner wall (iirc the "cone of silence" was walled on three sides) to prevent lip-reading - something that this approach to the idea doesn't cover.

    Of course, there's nothing preventing you from simply holding your hand over your mouth...

  7. I wonder about the quality of the workplace. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Judging by the descripton this device apparently operates by beaming additional sound at the people who are not supposed to be in a conversation, rather than attempting to cancel the conversation at their ears. So this is a selective noise generator.

    It's equivalent to creating enough background noise to drown out the conversations, but doing it selectively at the ears of the victims. Of course this means increasing, rather than decreasing, the noise level of the environment, and doing so with snippets of conversation that can ALMOST be understood - resulting in increased stress both from the high level of noise and the failed processing in the victims' brains.

    Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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  8. Re:Fly on the wall.. by Cedric+Tsui · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Absolutely!

    What's worst is the device works by surrounding your secret meeting with an array of discreet sensors (aka, microphones). So if two or three extra microphones were to appear in the room, no one would suspect a thing.

    I guess it would work for the random passerby...