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Spirit Stuck In Soft Soil On Mars

cheros writes "NASA reports that the Spirit Mars lander is presently stuck in soft soil. The lander's wheels are halfway sunk into the soil and they are planning simulation tests to see if they can get it out again. I hope they can get it out of there because it's picking up enough new energy to operate; however, it only has 5 wheels left to get around on — one of the wheels hasn't been working for years. Fingers crossed."

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  1. Call a tow truck by confused+one · · Score: 4, Funny

    Time to call AAA...

    1. Re:Call a tow truck by Megane · · Score: 4, Funny

      Alien Automobile Association?

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    2. Re:Call a tow truck by rackserverdeals · · Score: 4, Funny

      They should get Opportunity to come by and fire it's grappling hook to tow it out with its winch.

      What?!?! We launched a bunch of space robots to an unknown, rocky terrain without a grappling hook and winch?

      They probably didn't include the lasers either. Good thing the people that carved the face are long dead.

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    3. Re:Call a tow truck by Sentax · · Score: 5, Funny

      With the lack of spirit, there won't be much opportunity.

    4. Re:Call a tow truck by Onyma · · Score: 5, Funny

      So pretty much a normal road side assistance response time then.

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    5. Re:Call a tow truck by turgid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Duh. Sharks can't live in space.

      Sharks can live under water. There is no air under water. There is also no air in space. Therefore sharks can live in space.

  2. Should have used show chains... by tippe · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... but I guess it's a little too late now. Oh well, better luck next time.

    1. Re:Should have used show chains... by ianare · · Score: 4, Funny

      How would they have helped, if they're only for show ?

  3. Re:Still the cheaper option? by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes.

    same as your 20 minutes waiting is cheaper than buying you a new laptop with Usb 2.0 high speed ports.

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  4. 5 out of 6 wheels?!? by DavidChristopher · · Score: 5, Informative

    SOURCE: Wikipedia
    On sol 779, the right front wheel ceased working after having covered 4.2 mi (7 km) on Mars. Engineers began driving the rover backwards, dragging the dead wheel. Ironically, although this has resulted in changes to driving techniques the dragging effect has also had a positive effect in the fact that the wheel dragging has partially cleared soil away on the surface as the rover travels and allows for imaging areas that would normally be covered in soil.

    http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/mission/images/rover1_detail_500.jpg

    NASA got awesome mileage out of this vehicle... considerably more than was initially expected- over 7700 meters! Hopefully they get it unstuck. According the the NASA website, they've gotten it backed up by a few CM over the last few Sols...

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  5. Life in slow motion... by yogibaer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In an era where time is the devil and speed is God, it's interesting and heart warming to see that there is actually an engineering job where you can spend weeks looking at the dust under your feet, comtemplate your (modest) goals (another 100 feet, yeah!) and then very, very slowly take you next step. And if a dust storm comes along, just wait for the next breeze to gently brush the dust of your panels and let the sunshine in. Envious. Quite envious.

  6. Re:Still the cheaper option? by ducomputergeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    The next rover to mars is costing $1.8B to build. Spirit and Opportunity costs around $4M per year to operate. So I think you can fund a lot of years of operations for $1.8B. Hell what does a Delta IV heavy launch cost these days? $50M? $100M?

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  7. Inflatable Tires? by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if they could put inflatable tires on rovers and then manually adjust the pressure for each one to accomodate different soil types, a la WWII DUKW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW It might help the rover to better adapt to different kinds of soils.

    Of course, it would have to be designed for the different pressures of the martian atmosphere.

  8. When does this end? by wandazulu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's great to see that the rovers have lived on for so long, even if they are showing some wear-n-tear, but given the circumstances, they're clearly well built and I'd buy a used one off ebay any day (uh, shipper pays postage).

    I'm curious though, in a totally non-judgmental way, about the cost of the program in general; they expected the rovers to last, what, 90 days? So presumably someone budgeted so many resources here on Earth for people, etc., for that length of time. Since the rovers have been doing such a great job of defying expectations, what kind of effect does that have on the budget for the program; is it sufficiently small enough that it just gets lost in the wash?

    Also, since their plans were presumably all built for a 90-day time frame, how do they determine what to do now? Do they take requests from PhD candidates and researchers from around the world?

    1. Re:When does this end? by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm curious though, in a totally non-judgmental way, about the cost of the program in general; they expected the rovers to last, what, 90 days? So presumably someone budgeted so many resources here on Earth for people, etc., for that length of time. Since the rovers have been doing such a great job of defying expectations, what kind of effect does that have on the budget for the program; is it sufficiently small enough that it just gets lost in the wash?

      Nothing gets lost in the wash in NASA's budget. Not only are there harsh internal reviews, NASA's line items are a popular target for Congressional review. Almost nothing NASA does is low profile, and politically (except for the really big programs) they're neutral - they have no strong constituency in favor, and they're a good place to hide a little pork from public view.
       
      That being said, if a program runs long NASA can (and does) reprogram funds from elsewhere to keep it running and then adds it into next years budget request. Programs are paid for annually, not in a lump sum up front.

  9. Re:Still the cheaper option? by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone know if managing the twins is still cheaper than sending a new rover?

    Sending a new rover for what? There is a new rover on the way, but that does not make Spirit and Opportunity any less valuable. Even getting stuck in soft soil is doing science: the things that the scientists learn from the experience (what soft soil looks like when you approach it, what techniques to use to get out, how to built a rover that can handle it) will be useful.

    And don't forget, turning up this soft soil may reveal something important. Many of Spirit's discoveries were because of soil turned over due to her stuck wheel.

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  10. There is precedent by edremy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Grumman billed North American Aerospace for towing the crippled Apollo 13 command module back from the moon. Make it worth enough and I'm sure someone will be up there shortly

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  11. Re:Still the cheaper option? by rackserverdeals · · Score: 4, Informative

    How does a rover on Mars cost 4 million per year to operate?

    Long distance charges.

    I don't think the $4million number is accurate anyway. It's likely higher. Last year they were going to cut the budget by $4 million and turn off one of the rovers but then changed their minds. IT looks like the budget for the program is actually $20 million according to this article.

    Hmm... maybe they didn't change their minds and it's not really stuck.

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  12. The Big Bang Theory by thespacemark · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, it is pretty obvious that someone at NASA is a fan of the show, and figured if it worked for Wolowitz... Hey, surely 'I' won't be so stupid as to get the rover stuck. Maybe they will discover life on Mars while stuck in the dirt.

  13. Re:Still the cheaper option? by Zordak · · Score: 4, Funny

    And don't forget, turning up this soft soil may reveal something important.

    Especially if the "soft soil" turns out to be warm poo.

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