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Microsoft Raises $3.8B in Bond Sale

pfleming writes "Microsoft quietly, or not so quietly, raised some cheap cash in bond sales yesterday. For a company that already has a huge cash war chest and doesn't carry debt, what is the incentive to sell nearly $4 billion in bonds? From the article: 'Microsoft is sitting on $25 billion in cash, so the company doesn't need the bond proceeds "unless they have something big in mind," says Reena Aggarwal, professor of finance at Georgetown University's McDonough School of Business.'"

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  1. Question by egr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where can I buy this bond?

    1. Re:Question by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2, Interesting

      JP Morgan Chase. They probably won't talk to you unless you have many thousands to invest, though.

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  2. Incentive by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It may be that they're hedging their bets against a possible dry spell in their business. Better to get the cash now, while their bond rating is good and they can get a low interest rate, than trying to issue bonds when they're not looking so hot.

  3. Simple by overshoot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Right now, it's money for nothing and the stock market is way down. Buy stocks with cheap money, and a year from now the ROI is great.

    Of course, they may also be starting their business model conversion, a la Control Data Corporation. The software monopoly may not last forever, after all, and this is a cheap way to hedge their bets.

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    1. Re:Simple by Darth_brooks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pretty much. I think in terms of the markets, everyone is slowly coming to the conclusion that we're not going to be moving to the "gold bar, shotgun shell, and hard liquor" currency standard any time soon. Now everyone's looking to turn a few bucks.

      Besides, with so much cash on hand Microsoft bonds are just ungodly attractive. Especially after the past few years of "these 15,000 crappy mortgages bundled together are a totally sound investment, we swear!" or "Of course GM and Chrysler are going to make good on these bonds. The fact that Vinnie the loanshark thinks the rates are exorbitant means nothing. These are solid American institutions!"

      Seriously, even if the cash on hand at MS has been dropping for a while they're still an attractive buy. In this market, a company with 25 billion cash on hand that wants to raise another five or six billion is like throwing a drunk Brad Pitt to Oprah's studio audience.

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  4. It is not uncommon to do this.. by Chyeld · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least, the companies I've all worked for have all done business in this manner:

    Have a fairly large cash reserve which is your 'emergency' fund. When you need to aquire a company or other such big ticket item, borrow. Even if you have the cash, investors consider how you are leveraging your credit when looking at whether to buy your stock and being under leveraged is just as bad as being over leveraged (cause you are letting money that could work for you just sit idle, stunting your earnings).

  5. Perhaps by Dyinobal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps they plan to buy part of the wireless spectrum out from under the noses of google.

  6. For acquisitions? Doubtful by PPH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because of the recent changes in antitrust enforcement policy, I don't think they are planning to do too many acquisitions.

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  7. It's called the cost of capital by alen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    and raising money via debt is the cheapest way to run a company. every project has a cost of capital usually calculated by the direct monetary cost, estimated returns, etc.

    debt with it's low interest rates is the cheapest

    retained earnings or cash in the bank is more expensive because investors expect growing earnings

    selling stock is the most expensive due to expected returns

    a lot of companies like GE have borrowed at short term rates and simply rerolled the debt every time it matured paying low rates. nice until 2008 and GE's rates shot up to almost 10%.

  8. Re:Buyout? by NatasRevol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Give them 4x their current holdings, I bet most would sell.

    4x$1B == $4B

    See the connection?

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  9. Money is cheap. by feepness · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I could borrow $4B at the rates MSFT is getting I'd run out and get it too. Then they invest the money later (remember they are already investing $25B) and end up with a positive return.

    This is just accountants shuffling paper. Nothing to see here.

  10. Advertising compaign? Or...? by yurik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can see a few alternatives:

    * Advertising
        "Windows better than everything..." advertising campaign might be one. Massive consumer bombardment with "Windows 7" ads similar to what they did with Windows 95.

    * Hardware
        Microsoft might follow Apple and Oracle, and start making their own hardware. Massively parallel chips geared towards both the vector and regular computations would be one idea.

    Alternatively, their own servers (totally not their market segment, plus they will aggravate their relationship with Dell and others, so this is less likely.

    * M & A...
        Buying Yahoo? Or better yet - Novel? That would be an interesting development. Novel has very little influence compared to their former glory, yet some of their technology (Moonlight?) might be valuable to MS. So instead of discrediting Mono project, MS might simply jump on it and start offering various open source solutions ... I know I'm daydreaming...

  11. The whispers are saying, "VMware". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "VMware" will announce its first layoffs in June. Microsoft is now hovering like a vulture, waiting to scoop up "VMware".

    Microsoft does not want to spend its cash hoard of $25 billion when the interest rate on bonds is essentially at zero -- relative to inflation.

  12. Re:That's just fiscally stupid. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Given ALL the problems we see with corporations that carry debt, why on earth Microsoft would want to piss away a giant cash reserve AND borrow money ...?

    Perhaps they're expecting significant inflation, or even hyperinflation, of dollars (as is everybody with the least clue about the theories of the Austrian school of economics.)

    Interest rates are massively depressed by the "printing press money" currently pouring out of Washington. The expectation that the money will devalue drastically over the next couple quarters to couple years (especially now that China has stopped buying US bonds). Meanwhile the artificially depressed (compared to borrowing only savings) interest rates continue the diversion of "stuff" from where it can build infrastructure to make a future profit and into either projects that can't be finished or won't have customers when they're done or immediate consumption. This turns a recession into a depression. It's exactly what happened to create the Great Depression, but the government is doing it more this time around and with no safety net from a gold standard - so the US could end up more like Weimar Germany than the US of the '30s.

    If you believe that, the logical thing to do is to grab some of the dollars at the low interest rate before the inflation gets figured into their price and use them to buy assets that won't inflate or disintegrate in a depression. Pick off undervalued resources - commodities, potentially profitable companies, etc. Then when the inflation hits, cash things like your gold reserves and pay off the notes in inflated dollars.

    To give you an idea of what hyperinflation is like: In the first year and a half after the Treaty of Versaille's reparation section took effect, the money inflated so much that, were it to happen here, a $200,000 mortgage could be paid off completely for the price of a slice of toast. (Over 9 years it inflated by a trillion-to-one, before they instituted a new money that was more solidly backed.)

    = = =

    Then again:
      - Maybe they see an acquisition target and need a bit more cash.
      - Maybe they ARE, or expect to become, an acquisition target (due to the cash reserves and an expectation of a stock price drop) and are working on looking less attractive. B-)

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  13. Re:That's just fiscally stupid. by FooRat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True, but to be fair, you could also have said that about most the big corps that have collapsed over the last year or two before they went belly-up.

  14. Re:Yahoo by fm6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some relevant numbers:

    Yahoo Market Cap: $21B
    Current Microsoft cash reserves: $24B
    Last MS offer for Yahoo: $44B

    Against numbers like these, it's difficult to see how Microsoft having, or not having, an extra $3B, would make any difference. Either way, they'd have to borrow at least half of the purchase price.

    I suspect that the Microsoft CFO is just playing the usually games that CFOs play. These guys are always shifting money around. When you've got that much cash, you can't just leave it in a bank account — even minor tweaks in the way you stash it can save you (or cost you) millions.

    One possibility: they're borrowing money at a low interest rate in order to retire debts that are carrying a higher interest rate.

  15. Re:Buyout? by corbettw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Darwin approves of this merger.

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  16. Telecommunications by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm betting we'll see a Microsoft acquisition of a telecoms company, probably the currently, very injured Nortel.

    I'm in the telecoms space myself (I won't name which company on here so please don't ask me) and we've seen a lot of push by Microsoft with Office Communicator - which also happens to have been designed with proprietary VoIP codecs that allow Nortel connectivity but lock every other VoIP system provider out.

    Cisco is obviously very big in the telecoms space now but from a technology and feature perspective, they are still very much behind some of the "traditional" telecoms companies - so there are a number of potential buyers for Nortel who have a huge amount of experience in the telecoms space.

    Microsoft is very much the "new kid on the block" when it comes to telephony so acquiring Nortel would give them a big push in that field.

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  17. Effectiveness of share repurchases by schmiddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Assuming share repurchasing is really the intent here, and that's not a bad guess, let me offer a contrarian view to your rosy perspective to MSFT's move.

    By borrowing dollars in the bond market to fund a share buyback, MSFT's board is effectively using borrowed money to place a wager that the market is currently undervaluing MSFT's stock. By choosing to throw their extra cash, along with borrowed dollars, at this share buyback scheme, MSFT is betting that they can predict the future better than the market.

    What would be really great is if someone had done a study of the effect of share buybacks undertaken by S&P 500 companies, to test whether they work at all. Oh wait, S&P itself has. If you're a MSFT shareholder, ask yourself whether MSFT should be using their extra cash to pay dividends instead of embarking on harebrained schemes like this. Actually, I take that back -- you'd probably prefer they spend money buying back their own shares and paying bond interest rather than flushing it down the Zune toilet.

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  18. Re:Perhaps they want to show debt for some reason? by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There needs to be a "-1 sad but +1 true" mod option.

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  19. Re:Yahoo by artemis67 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree; rumors are abounding that Microsoft will release the Zune Phone this year. Apple sold almost 4.5 million iPhones in the fourth quarter last year, compared with Microsoft selling about 6 million XBox 360's... it's a segment that Microsoft will not ignore any longer.

    No doubt they will treat a Zune Phone like the original XBox... force the establishment of the brand by sinking an ungodly amount of money into the division, and hope to become profitable in succeeding generations of the device.

  20. Re:That's just fiscally stupid. by twostix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Companies did this right before the big crash in 1933. Markets appeared to be rallying and capital became available again so companies got a hold of as much as they could before it all went to hell.

    And went to hell it did.

    People who think that in the current atmosphere companies are looking to embark on dangerous and expensive new acquisitions or projects rather than trying to simply get into a position to protect themselves for the next few years appear to have no idea of how unsteady things are in the various economies right now.

    Read a damned bit people! You're supposed to be intellectuals!

  21. Re:MS doesn't need VMware by CAIMLAS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, they don't "need" VMware themselves. They have a product which "fits" that niche - "that niche" being Windows desktop and server virtualization products (and only for MS's more expensive OS versions).

    But if you consider the facts of VMware being cross-platform for both host and client OS, supporting a myriad more client operating systems than MS does, and the fact that VMware is working on emulation applications for mobile devices, well: the picture changes somewhat.

    VMware is only competition in the very small world of Windows on Windows emulation. You have a significant diminished return on your hardware when your virtual hardware is sitting on top of a Microsoft OS: you need a lot more hardware.

    Not only that, but VMware is heavily used in Linux by both companies and individuals. They offer the Only mature set of virtualization tools for OS X and Linux. Yes, Linux has KVM and Xen, and there's also Virtualbox - but Linux kernel virtualization lacks a cohesive, 'available' interface for management, and Virtualbox is easily several years behind even VMware workstation in terms of features, stability, and general solidness.

    If MS were to buy VMware, they'd offer it as a move towards expanding their virtualization services to other OSes - to 'infuse' MS tech into VMware products to make them better. Then, the Windows versions of VMware products would slowly become much, much more "windowsy", while the Linux and Mac versions stagnate in features and usability - while useless or half-broken features are added, making the package as a whole less usable. Eventually, they'll be canceled outright.

    That would be a very, very bad thing; after all, we IT folks are trying to move towards a more fully virtualized software/hardware environment: it makes things easier for us. Microsoft, on the other hand, has spent its entire existence making new hardware slow and glitchy with new OS releases. They want to maintain and perpetuate the status quo, which is a world of MS domination in every realm of a network's architecture.

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