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Girl Who Named Pluto, At 11, Dies At 90

notthepainter notes the passing of the woman who, as an 11-year-old girl, named Pluto. "Frozen and lonely, Planet X circled the far reaches of the solar system awaiting discovery and a name. It got one thanks to an 11-year-old British girl named Venetia Burney, an enthusiast of the planets and classical myth. On March 14, 1930, the day newspapers reported that the long-suspected 'trans-Neptunian body' had been photographed for the first time, she proposed to her well-connected grandfather that it be named Pluto, after the Roman god of the underworld. Venetia Phair, as she became by marriage, died April 30 in her home in Banstead, in the county of Surrey, England. She was 90. ... More vexing to Mrs. Phair was the persistent notion that she had taken the name from the Disney character. 'It has now been satisfactorily proven that the dog was named after the planet, rather than the other way around,' she told the BBC. 'So, one is vindicated.' " Venetia's great-uncle Henry, who was a housemaster at Eton, had successfully proposed that the two dwarf moons of Mars be named Phobos and Deimos.

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  1. But Pluto's not even a planet! by bigjarom · · Score: 5, Funny

    How is this even a story? Maybe if she had named a REAL planet...

    1. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Fuck you, Pluto is a planet you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait a minute, so Pluto is not named after the dog in the Disney cartoons? So would that mean that Pluto's moon isn't actually named Goofy? Aw, hell... I guess I just got an F on that paper for my astronomy class.

    3. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Col+Estrol · · Score: 5, Funny

      true, Pluto sure turned out to be a mickey mouse planet

    4. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by midphasecoupon · · Score: 1

      How is this even a story? Maybe if she had named a REAL planet...

      so what did you accomplish when you were 11? Maybe you discovered and named one of those rocks in the asteroid belt.

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    5. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Xupa · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Maybe if Slashdot didn't report shit two weeks after the fact....

    6. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Haoie · · Score: 1

      I really wonder how she felt when a few years ago, Pluto was declassified as a planet. Oddly surreal.

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    7. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ITT Disney slaves.

    8. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      "accomplish"? ...this girl didn't accomplish anything either. She didn't discover the planet, she didn't have an inspirational idea for the name, she just had a grandfather who knew people.

    9. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it still has the name Venetia B. gave it, and it will still have that name even if Western civilization falls, for example in Japanese and Chinese it's "Netherworld King", translating her name by calling the god Pluto by his title. In a thousand years it's likely her name will have survived.

    10. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      or 79 years after the fact...

    11. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by dontmakemethink · · Score: 2, Funny

      How is this even a story? Maybe if she had named a REAL planet...

      Like what, Vulcan?

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    12. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by operagost · · Score: 1

      -1, Woosh

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    13. Re:But Pluto's not even a planet! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I can't believe anyone would assume that an 11-year-old girl was into anything Disney.

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  2. Goofy by kensai · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If she would only have named it Goofy, she could have lived to 100.

    1. Re:Goofy by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      It's just... not right.

    2. Re:Goofy by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pluto is a dog's dog. Goofy is a dog trying to be a man.

      If I ran around sniffing crotches and licking my goods, I'd...never get out of the house. What was my point again?

    3. Re:Goofy by beav007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pluto is a dog's dog. Goofy is a dog trying to be a man.

      Actually, Pluto is a mouses dog.

    4. Re:Goofy by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Funny

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      You know, that's not very far out there when you are talking about this group. Years ago when Minnie started acting strange, many thought she had had a psychotic break, some said that she was just plain crazy... In the end, it turned out she was just fu*king Goofy...

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    5. Re:Goofy by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Funny

      Should we respect Goofy's aspiration to transcend his origins and disapprove of Pluto's ignomy, or should we reject Goofy as a social-climbing pretender and admire Pluto's authenticity?

    6. Re:Goofy by dudpixel · · Score: 5, Funny

      we are tackling the big issues here today aren't we?

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    7. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.. What is max?

    8. Re:Goofy by syousef · · Score: 0, Troll

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      What I find baffling is how this gets modded insightful? Just what was the insight here? That cartoon characters can be imagined differently?

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    9. Re:Goofy by Obyron · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it's clear to any REAL dog that Goofy is nothing but an uppity Uncle Rover, sitting and rolling over for the massah to get a handout.

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    10. Re:Goofy by Col+Estrol · · Score: 1

      that's a mouse trying to be a man. It must be a hassle having to thread your tail through a small hole in the back of your pants every morning when you get dressed.

    11. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the TV show "Soap":

      Jodie Dallas: Plato was gay.
      Jessica Tate: Mickey Mouse had a gay dog?
      Jodie Dallas: Goofy was his lover.

    12. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Should we respect Goofy's aspiration to transcend his origins and disapprove of Pluto's ignomy, or should we reject Goofy as a social-climbing pretender and admire Pluto's authenticity?

      Wow! Metaphysics, Mickey Mouse, and Machiavelli all in one.

      Pure genius!

    13. Re:Goofy by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Given Walt's history, I'd always just assumed that Goofy's early character was a manifestation of his racist beliefs.

      (Seriously... part of the reason that Disney don't want their copyrights to expire is that they're repressing a lot of really bad stuff that's in their early archives)

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    14. Re:Goofy by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Detecting inconsistency is fiction is a very useful skill, just like detecting sarcasm is.

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    15. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because, if the copyright ran out, all those secret archives would suddenly be forced out in the open, thanks to those newly-implemented laws that make publication obligatory?

    16. Re:Goofy by McDutchie · · Score: 1

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      It's called anthropomorphism, and there is a centuries-old literary tradition of it.

      I don't find it inconsistent that some Disney characters are anthropomorphic and some are just plain animals. As a kid I certainly didn't have a problem with it.

    17. Re:Goofy by Jerry+Smith · · Score: 1

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      It's just... not right.

      Goofy is a dingo, http://www.donaldduck.nl/duckipedia/artikel/73 .

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    18. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because, if the copyright ran out, all those secret archives would suddenly be forced out in the open, thanks to those newly-implemented laws that make publication obligatory?

      No, because if the copyright ran out people could exhibit copies of the racist stuff without fear of repercussions from the legal arm of the Disney corp.

    19. Re:Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I find baffling is that Goofy is a dog, and Pluto is a dog. But Goofy wears clothes, drives, and talks - and Pluto just runs around, barks and wags his tail.

      And Disney has been trying to make amends for its blatant attack against the mentally handicapped since then.

  3. Damned Disney by karaage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ripping off public domain folk tales was not enough. They had to go after the planets, too.

    1. Re:Damned Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How can you rip off something that is in the public domain?

    2. Re:Damned Disney by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...By practically claiming it as your own? How many people think that The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Snow White and Pinocchio were thought up by Disney? I would imagine that most kids, and a good amount of adults think that, at least for some of them.

      Sure, its not wrong because public domain works are meant to be copied. But it kinda kills part of the experience to know that the movies you thought Disney did a great job doing, had been around for centuries before Walt was born.

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    3. Re:Damned Disney by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Informative

      By buying laws that make sure their stuff won't ever fall into public domain.

    4. Re:Damned Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is wrong. Plaigarism is plaigarism.

    5. Re:Damned Disney by residieu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's the beauty of the public domain. Anyone can take those ideas and characters and make something out of them. Disney did a really great job adapting these old tales. The fact that they weren't original ideas by Disney doesn't take away from that (did anyone ever think Disney came up with them?) Dreamworks was able to use many of those same characters in their Shrek movies, because they're not Disney's characters, they're everyone's characters.

    6. Re:Damned Disney by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (did anyone ever think Disney came up with them?)

      Did you never think that? I'll happily admit that I did think that that for some time.

      If you ever did, when did you change your thinking? Was it because you heard about "the original version" of $FAIRYTALE, or heard the movie referred to as "the Disney version"?

      I think that in the absence of other information it's reasonable to think that $FAIRYTALE is made by Disney when you watch it and see it says "Disney" somewhere near the beginning.

      The fact that they're not original to Disney seems like one of those things you don't know that you should go look for. So you're likely to only come by that knowledge by happenstance.

      (My mother read me more H. C. Andersen and Astrid Lindgren than Grimm.)

    7. Re:Damned Disney by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      Did you never think that? I'll happily admit that I did think that that for some time.

      I never did, but I was growing up a little before every house had a VCR, and there were only four channels so Disney-on-demand was not available. I first got my fairytales in the form of paper and ink - and often you'd have three or four versions of the same story in different books, varying in details such as the presence or absence of heroic woodcutters, the eventual survival or otherwise of two little pigs and one big bad wolf, more or less gruesome versions of the eventual fate of any wicked witch, and so forth. So when the TV happened to show a Disney film, I saw it as another different adaptation, not as the original story.

      I imagine that the current generation might well be misled for a while into thinking Disney are the original source of these stories. They've done an especially good job on Winnie-the-Pooh: on a Google image search I just ran for that name, the first picture by E. H. Shepard is the 107th result. Shocking.

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    8. Re:Damned Disney by digitig · · Score: 1

      For that matter, how many people realise that Shakespeare lifted most if not all of his stories from earlier sources. I did a term paper a few years back comparing Shakespeare's King Lear to an earlier poem called "The Tragedy of Cordelia" telling the same story with the same characters and the same names, and the overall plot is that of the folk take "Cap o'Rushes". The question isn't where your source material comes from (once it's public domain), it's what you do with it.

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    9. Re:Damned Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't bother me that Disney used public domain tales in the slightest. They are successful because they were the first to produce an American feature length animated film and had excellent accompanying soundtracks with many of their films.

      The plot is definitely one component, but the audio and visual aspects were amazing too. Sure, the Disney isn't as impressive as it has been, but I wouldn't have a go at them for using public domain tales.

    10. Re:Damned Disney by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think the point is that it's wrong, more the hypocrisy of Disney: they make use of the works of other people who are long dead, but they want the work that the company owns - including derivative works that they created out of other people's works - to remain in copyright indefinitely. Even though Mickey Mouse was also created by people who are presumably dead now.

      Imagine if all the authors of those fairy tales had lobbied the Governments to extend copyrights indefinitely? None of those Disney stories would have been possible.

    11. Re:Damned Disney by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      How many people think that The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Snow White and Pinocchio were thought up by Disney?

      Well, it's not as if Disney was very accurate in their recreations. Disney has a habit of removing the part of the story where a hero, heroine, or other main character dies at the end.

    12. Re:Damned Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question isn't where your source material comes from (once it's public domain), it's what you do with it.

      The question is if I'll ever see any new public domain materials in my lifetime. I'm middle aged I've never seen a copyright expire, mostly thanks to Disney who relied on public domain storied.

  4. God speed by elashish14 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We'll forever remember your contribution(s) to the scientific community.

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    1. Re:God speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      mod parent up. Too much damn cynicism and not enough respect.

    2. Re:God speed by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      She outlived her planet.

    3. Re:God speed by ctmurray · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. Tonight's shows on the Science HD channel was about the probe being sent to Pluto, and they brought up how the planet (now considered a dwarf officially) was named. Lots of interest in these outer objects as the belt where they come from may help explain more how our solar system was formed.

    4. Re:God speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not the boss of me!

    5. Re:God speed by syousef · · Score: 3, Interesting

      She outlived her planet.

      She outlived the classification of the body she named as a planet. You do realize that if the IAU called Pluto a Turnip (which sadly makes about as much sense as their definition of Planet) it would make no difference whatsoever to the body itself. The odds are pretty good that Pluto will outlive the human race.

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    6. Re:God speed by spacefiddle · · Score: 1

      Hey, at the rate we're going...

    7. Re:God speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I thought it was funny. Thanks for ruining it.

    8. Re:God speed by BlueParrot · · Score: 1

      The odds are pretty good that Pluto will outlive the human species.

      Fixed that for you. Sorry but that annoys me every time.

    9. Re:God speed by darthvader100 · · Score: 1

      Well i don't think it will. When humans discover there is plutonium in it's core it is history. There will be a space race to get to it first.

      No plutionium in the core you say? then why is it named pluto?

      Man will still get bored of the wars here and start a reality show called "War on Pluto" to blow it up

      Or some mooch will sell the name on ebay, and thereafter it will be known as YoMamaSux or something...

    10. Re:God speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like we have no other options. We have to nuke Pluto.

    11. Re:God speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      race

      4. Humans considered as a group.

      Many words have more than one definition.

  5. Re:like a zebra. by linzeal · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you knew your history or had read the article linked in the header, you would.

  6. Pluto Replies by earlymon · · Score: 4, Insightful
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    1. Re:Pluto Replies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.snorgtees.com/itsokaypluto-p-460.html

      If Pluto can't be a planet, then I'll have nothing to do with planets. I already have my ticket to the moon.

  7. too bad by catmistake · · Score: 0

    she lived to see it lose its planet status... couldn't those selfish astronomers, astrophysicists and cosmologists waited a few more years?

    &&FP

    1. Re:too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no room for that kind of sentimental behaviour in the realm of science.

    2. Re:too bad by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I read that as "Shelfish astromers" and thought I'd missed some big news about Europa. A *lot* of big news in fact.

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  8. Just Wow by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    It got one thanks to an 11-year-old British girl named Venetia Burney, an enthusiast of the planets and classical myth. [...] she proposed to her well-connected grandfather that it be named Pluto, after the Roman god of the underworld.

    Now THAT is a nerd's nerd. At the age of eleven, names a planet after a Roman god. I can just picture it now. "Grandfather, I rather think that naming it aaaafter the god Pluto might be the most appropriate course." Maybe I've seen too many Fruit Newton commercials, though.

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    1. Re:Just Wow by catmistake · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now THAT is a nerd's nerd. At the age of eleven, names a planet after a Roman god.

      Not all that original, really... they're all named after Roman gods. Now if she had suggested "Loki" or perhaps "Hellboy," I'd call her my nerd.

    2. Re:Just Wow by ShooterNeo · · Score: 1

      I misread your post as "after a Romulan God". Now THAT would be a nerd's nerd.

    3. Re:Just Wow by syousef · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now THAT is a nerd's nerd. At the age of eleven, names a planet after a Roman god. I can just picture it now. "Grandfather, I rather think that naming it aaaafter the god Pluto might be the most appropriate course." Maybe I've seen too many Fruit Newton commercials, though.

      These days the kid would never be allowed to read classic Greek Mythology at age 11 lest it damage their precious innocent psyche, or prompt them to go postal at school.

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    4. Re:Just Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd call her my nerd.

      Dude, she's 11.

    5. Re:Just Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, she's 11.

      She was, Dude.

    6. Re:Just Wow by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      In the USSR at least, a book of classical Greek mythology was the most widespread children book.

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    7. Re:Just Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And look how well *that* worked out for them!

    8. Re:Just Wow by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And yet, you can't drink the tapwater in Moscow. Perhaps it should have been "the little engine that could". Or maybe that monster book with Grover at the end (sorry for the spoiler warning) :P

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    9. Re:Just Wow by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "These days the kid would never be allowed to read classic Greek Mythology at age 11 lest it damage their precious innocent psyche, or prompt them to go postal at school."

      Hear, hear! The tragedy in this story is not that this precocious girl lived and then died at a ripe old age, but that a girl like her may never exist again.

      Or like Larry Niven said: "I always believed I'd be alive to see the first man land on the moon. I never imagined I's be alive to see the last."

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    10. Re:Just Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:Just Wow by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      I misread your post as "after a Romulan God". Now THAT would be a nerd's nerd.

      Well, where do you think Star Trek got the name "Romulus" from?

    12. Re:Just Wow by Convector · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, mythology reads children!

    13. Re:Just Wow by infinite9 · · Score: 1

      Now THAT is a nerd's nerd. At the age of eleven, names a planet after a Roman god. I can just picture it now. "Grandfather, I rather think that naming it aaaafter the god Pluto might be the most appropriate course."

      No kidding. My daughter would try to name it after, like, you know, oh my god, myspace.

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  9. Thanks for testing the waters... by Tatarize · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'm glad you got marked troll. Like 90% of us were coming here to make the exact same joke and now we know how the response would have been.

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  10. greek underworld != christian hell by panthroman · · Score: 5, Informative

    TFA quotes Neil deGrasse Tyson saying "Pluto is the god of the underworld, a distant place you don't want to go to," and Capt. Freeman saying "Pluto is the prototype of Satan in many minds..."

    The Greek underworld is more akin to the entire Christian afterlife. Sure, it had Hell-like Tartarus, but it also had the Heaven-like Elysian Fields (in French: Champs-Elysees), and plenty of places between.

    And Pluto/Hades was certainly no Satan! In at least one myth, the brothers Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades drew lots to see who would rule the air, sea, and underworld. Zeus drew first and chose air. Poseidon was thrilled, because he wanted the sea anyway. And poor Hades was stuck with the underworld.

    Also from TFA, "...scientists at the Lowell Observatory voted unanimously for Pluto, partly because its first two letters could be interpreted as an homage to Percival Lowell..." Very cool.

    1. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So kind of like the christian's stories about heaven, but with beer and hookers? Now *that's* my idea of paradise!

    2. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And poor Hades was stuck with the underworld.

      Yah, cause Satan is so thrilled with Hell.

      Maybe the link between Hell and Hades had to do with its portrayals in verse. I remember in the Odyssey, when Odysseus called up all the dead spirits trying to find Teiresias (or however the hell you spell it), NOBODY liked Hades, and from the sound of it he talked to like everybody who died in the Iliad and then some. Surely one or two of the people he talked to would have gone to the nicer spots out of random chance? Like maybe one of the Aiantes?

    3. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Wait.. the main boulevard in France, the one they sing the song about, the one with the big arch over it.. is named after the greek underworld?

      That's really creepy, when you think about it.

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    4. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Greek underworld is more akin to the entire Christian afterlife.

      No. Odysseus summons Achilles from the world of the dead (Pluto's domain) who states that he would prefer to live the life of a slave than reign in death.

    5. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by frenchbedroom · · Score: 1
      I didn't know France was a city, I guess you meant the main boulevard in Paris ?

      The Elysium Fields is the resting place of heroes, so I think it's a fitting name : the Arc de Triomphe has sculptures all over it, detailing the wars fought by France, and there's also the tomb of the Unknown Soldier (who died during WW1) at its foot.

    6. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by AlXtreme · · Score: 1

      the Arc de Triomphe has sculptures all over it, detailing the wars fought by France, and there's also the tomb of the Unknown Soldier (who died during WW1) at its foot.

      Champs-Elysees. It is indeed a fitting name.

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    7. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by jank1887 · · Score: 1

      yeah, I always thought that was kind of interesting about Greek mythology. the afterlife just SUCKED. I mean, isn't the whole point of a religion promising an afterlife to give the plebes something to look forward to while they slave away for their rich masters and religious leaders?

    8. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by operagost · · Score: 1

      It's also the name of a street in New Orleans that's the mailing address of about a hundred different orgs tied to Acorn, the President's "community organizer" reference. Acorn is currently under investigation for voter fraud in 14 states.

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    9. Re:greek underworld != christian hell by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 1

      The idea of a judgment after death didn't really come into existence until Zoroaster, and his ideas didn't really come into prominence until the Achaemenid Persian Empire. Until then, which would have been in the first millennium BCE, the thinking went (with little variation) that when you died you just went to a really boring place. The Jews called it Sheol. The ancient Sumerian city-states didn't even have the idea of an afterlife- so you'd have an incentive to live your life to the fullest while you still had it. The Egyptian masses had kind of the same thing, though their ideas about the afterlife changed a lot over time.

  11. Yeah real tear jerker.. by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 0, Redundant

    but it's still not a planet.

    Sorry, karma burning a hole in my pocket

  12. Re:like a zebra. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Or the summary, for that matter.

  13. plutonic != platonic by panthroman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plutonic?

    Astrological etymologies:
    Mercurial - unpredictable temperment
    Venereal - sexually indulgent
    Lunatic - crazy
    Martial - war-like
    Saturnine - gloomy
    Jovial - happy

    But "nepotism" is from nephew, not Neptune. And "platonic" is from Plato, not Pluto.

    1. Re:plutonic != platonic by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You forgot:
      Earthy - filled with dirt
      Uranull - filled with urine

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      Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
    2. Re:plutonic != platonic by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      Venereal - sexually indulgent

      And all married men suddenly cried out "The whole 'Women are from Venus' thing is a scam!"

    3. Re:plutonic != platonic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Pluto" means Rich. Older greeks used to believe Pluto, as the god of the undergrounds, had to be rich because of all of the gems and precious metals existing in the underground.

  14. Auden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Lost on a fog-bound spit of sand
    In shoes that pinched me, across the strand
    I hear the plosh of Charon's oar,
    Who ferrys no one to a happy shore.

  15. Planet X by Repton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't they mean Planet IX?

    --
    Repton.
    They say that only an experienced wizard can do the tengu shuffle.
    1. Re:Planet X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where the prescient robots come from?

  16. What about Pluto Nash? by Chessucat · · Score: 1

    What do we do about Pluto Nash?

    Hulu! An evil Alien plot to destroy the world!

    --
    "I'm a dirty white tomcat, enter my world..."
  17. Makes one wonder by mysidia · · Score: 3, Funny

    So where's the C&D letter against Disney for using the name she coined for a planet?

    Surely it causes consumer confusion.. I mean, when I see titles like The Complete Pluto, Volume One; I expect a DVD authorized by the foundation or scientists who discovered the planet, and it to be about the planet.

    But instead the proper trade name as assigned the Pluto brand planet is used with a piece of fiction in a manner that is not only confusing but dilutes the mark...

    1. Re:Makes one wonder by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Umm, Pluto is eponymous. As long as they didn't try to trademark it, there's nothing wrong. The term being many centuries old would never have fallen under IP laws of the US or pretty much any other modern state.

    2. Re:Makes one wonder by FrostDust · · Score: 1

      But instead the proper trade name as assigned the Pluto brand planet is used with a piece of fiction in a manner that is not only confusing but dilutes the mark...

      I'm sure that billions of Plutonians have been sharing your sentiments for years, and have been trying to organize a lawsuit due to the irreparable damage caused to their estates.

    3. Re:Makes one wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So where's the C&D letter against Disney for using the name she coined for a planet?

      Actually, a letter was sent from Disney to astronomers. It was something like this: "We heard there is a planet you call Pluto. We own this name, so stop calling it that way".

      As a result, Pluto is not called a planet anymore.

    4. Re:Makes one wonder by mysidia · · Score: 1

      As long as they didn't try to trademark it....

      You mean like this?

  18. Well, you say she died. by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 1

    I say we should call it a dwarf death...

  19. Yuggoth by anarkavre · · Score: 1

    "When I left Brattleboro I resolved never to go back to Vermont, and I feel quite certain I shall keep my resolution. Those wild hills are surely the outpost of a frightful cosmic race - as I doubt all the less since reading that a new ninth planet has been glimpsed beyond Neptune, just as those influences had said it would be glimpsed. Astronomers, with a hideous appropriateness they little suspect, have named this thing "Pluto." I feel, beyond question, that it is nothing less than nighted Yuggoth - and I shiver when I try to figure out the real reason why its monstrous denizens wish it to be known in this way at this especial time. I vainly try to assure myself that these daemoniac creatures are not gradually leading up to some new policy hurtful to the earth and its normal inhabitants."

    --
    "Without curiosity and knowledge, the mind is a vast void. Without the mind, curiosity and knowledge are nonexistent."
    1. Re:Yuggoth by anarkavre · · Score: 1

      The girl must be one of the creatures from Yuggoth!

      --
      "Without curiosity and knowledge, the mind is a vast void. Without the mind, curiosity and knowledge are nonexistent."
  20. Re:despite the fact by mister_playboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Neither Neptune nor Pluto are ever bright enough to be visible to the naked eye. In optimal conditions and near its opposition with Earth, Uranus can be visible to someone with excellent eyesight.

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law ::: Love is the law, love under will
  21. Re:Relevant question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Billie Piper is kind of hot...

  22. An 11-year-old-girl by RepelHistory · · Score: 1

    Known in the scientific community as a "Dwarf Woman."

  23. Re:despite the fact by Thing+1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    [...] Uranus can be visible to someone with excellent eyesight.

    or a couple of mirrors. Oh wait, your anus? That's visible to most anyone, mister playboy. :)

    --
    I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
  24. I can't be bothered to RTFS by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

    My attention span got me halfway through the summary and then I got distracted by topless photos of Carrie Prejean.

    1. Re:I can't be bothered to RTFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...halfway through... and then I got distracted by topless photos of Carrie Prejean.

      That's your excuse for everything, isn't it?

  25. When I was your age... by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I was your age, Pluto was Planet X!

    -Venetia Phair

  26. Re:despite the fact by hedwards · · Score: 1

    They changed that name to end that stupid joke years ago. Now we call it you're in us.

  27. Re:despite the fact by east+coast · · Score: 2, Informative

    Neptune was not discovered via direct observation. It was discovered by abnormalities in Uranus' orbit.

    --
    Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
  28. Re:despite the fact by dwarfsoft · · Score: 1

    According to Futurama I thought it was Urectum.

    --
    Cheers, Chris
  29. Re:despite the fact by hedwards · · Score: 1

    Yes, but they did actually change it to be pronounce Urine us.

  30. Before anybody jumps to the conclusion by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    correlation does not imply causation, this is no proof that naming planets causes death. (Come on, someone had to say that, this is /.)

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    Did you know 80 to 90% of the moderators on slashdot wouldn't recognize a troll even if one dragged them under a bridge.
    1. Re:Before anybody jumps to the conclusion by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      dang! if it causes death 79 years later, great, I'm naming a planet! I'm 45, I'll be pissing on all your graves till 2088, bitches!

    2. Re:Before anybody jumps to the conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would argue that anyone that has named a planet will die.

      therefore...

  31. She just died now? by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

    She just died now? So her copyright is still valid for another 70 years! Quick, somebody sue the solar system!

  32. Farewell by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

    Best regards to the family.

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    But... the future refused to change.
  33. Pluto IS a Planet by laurele · · Score: 2, Informative

    It should be noted that the IAUâ(TM)s controversial demotion of Pluto is very likely not the last word on the subject and in fact represents only one interpretation in an ongoing debate. Only four percent of the IAU voted on this, and most are not planetary scientists. Their decision was immediately opposed in a formal petition by hundreds of professional astronomers led by Dr. Alan Stern, Principal Investigator of NASAâ(TM)s New Horizons mission to Pluto. Stern and like-minded scientists favor a broader planet definition that includes any non-self-luminous spheroidal body in orbit around a star. The spherical part is important because objects become spherical when they attain a state known as hydrostatic equilibrium, meaning they are large enough for their own gravity to pull them into a round shape. This is a characteristic of planets and not of shapeless asteroids and Kuiper Belt Objects. Pluto meets this criterion and is therefore a planet.

  34. X-Plainet! by Ignatius+D'Lusional · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait... so Pluto was called "Planet X" before it had a name, and it's no longer officially a planet?

    So that means it used to be Planet X, but now it's an ex-planet!

    1. Re:X-Plainet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait... so Pluto was called "Planet X" before it had a name, and it's no longer officially a planet?

      So that means it used to be Planet X, but now it's an ex-planet!

      Next thing, you'll tell me it's pinin' for the fjords.

    2. Re:X-Plainet! by grikdog · · Score: 1

      You'll have to explain it.

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      ``Tension, apprehension & dissension have begun!'' - Duffy Wyg&, in Alfred Bester's _The Demolished Man_
  35. My wife looked after her by hoofie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My wife [a senior nurse] came home from work one day about 4 years ago saying that she and her staff had been looking after an old lady on a ward at Epsom General Hospital. One of the surgeons pointed her out and said she was rather special since had named the planet Pluto. Apparently the old lady was very pleasant and polite but hadn't told anyone of her claim to fame.

    Not really believing this story I googled a bit and found a name. My wife refused to tell me the name of the woman but when I said 'Venetia Phair' she was very surprised as she thought the whole thing was a massive wind-up.

  36. Re:Relevant question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, don't get me started on Billie Piper. Not only is she unattractive, she can't act.

    She's hardly a sterling example of a hot British girl, of which there are many.

  37. Re:despite the fact by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    Is that what that Queen song Radio Gaga is about?

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  38. Re:despite the fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who changed it? The International Court of English Language Pronunciation? Oh, that doesn't exist.

    It was your-anus when I was born and it will be your-anus to the day I die. And anyway who tries to tell me how to pronounce my own language can fuck right off.

  39. the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is she hott or not?

  40. Re:Relevant question by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

    And yet I'd still hit it.

  41. Re:Ceres IS a Planet by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

    OOI, do you think that Ceres, all the other spherical KBOs and so on, should be planets too?

    I don't think there's anything wrong with such a definition - we have hundreds of moons, some only about a kilometer in diameter, so why not for planets too? But what was inconsistent, and needed to be fixed, was having Pluto a planet, whilst everything else of similar (or even larger) size was not a planet.

  42. Not planet X by orkybash · · Score: 1

    Planet X was the name given to a hypothetical fifth gas giant that could influence the orbit of Neptune and account for the discrepancies between the computed orbit and the observed orbit. It later turned out that one of the two (though I forget which) was slightly off, and when corrected the theory matched the observations exactly, and no Planet X was needed.

  43. both named after roman god? by FunkyELF · · Score: 1

    It has now been satisfactorily proven that the dog was named after the planet, rather than the other way around

    How do they know both weren't named after the Roman god?

  44. Pluto.... I have some frightful news. by SomePoorSchmuck · · Score: 1

    I rather think that Ms. Phair would have enjoyed this song by Clare and the Reasons.

    Pluto I have some frightful news dear
    in the New York Times
    They've just reported you've been overthrown (aah ahh ahh)
    from your solar throne for good

    Pluto they say that you can't handle
    your own gravity
    well how can you overcome your body force
    to clear the path for your own orbit

    Now all the planets will gather around and have a thing for you
    They'll wrap their orbits warmly around you and send you off with love
    Chin up pluto the stars still want you and we down here do too
    you know what to do, just keep on keeping on

    Pluto I have some frightful news dear
    in the New York Times
    They've just reported you've been overthrown (aah ahh ahh)
    from your solar throne for good

    --

    Hollywood, Television, has become the dream machine. We need to take that back; each of us is a Dream Machine
  45. Re:Ceres IS a Planet by laurele · · Score: 1

    Yes, I think Ceres and all the other spherical KBOs should be considered planets too. It's okay to call them dwarf planets since they do not gravitationally dominate their orbits. However, it makes no sense to say, as the IAU definition does, that dwarf planets are not planets at all! This is one reason the IAU definition didn't fix anything; it only further confused matters and took attention away from the discovery of the new planets Haumea, Makemake, and Eris.

  46. Voting Controversy by DesScorp · · Score: 1

    Didn't the people that did vote for demotion do it in a way that locked out a majority of the voters? I seem to recall that the vote was set up in a rather shady way, when many of the participants weren't present, basically guaranteeing the result they hoped for, and when the rest of the membership found out, they hit the roof.

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    Life is hard, and the world is cruel
  47. You sir, are no poet by Gorimek · · Score: 1

    Hmpf!!

  48. Nice segue. Not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, dude, I dislike the President as much as the next guy, but you're slipping into moonbat territory there.

    You make a claim like that, you gotta support it with at least two links, and one of 'em kinda needs to be a mainstream journal of record. (not so much for the credibility, but for the "your own man says so" house rule)

    Geez man, quit making us (Obama detractors) look bad.

  49. Respect. by bollox4 · · Score: 1

    It doesn't really matter she named something that will outlive us all here. She doesn't seemed to have done much more than have existed as a good human, and that's more than many of us will ever be. Respect please.

  50. She died by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    She didn't dies, she died.

    Hamlet dies, everyone dies. But a person dies just the once.

    She died. She is dead. Stop trying to make her less dead by avoiding the past tense.

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  51. Re: odds are Pluto will outlive the human race by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

    The odds are pretty good that Pluto will outlive the human race.

    The odds are equally good, I'd say, that both will cease to exist at the same time - likely because somebody found out that Pluto was a clump of some mineral massively valuable on Earth, and decided to drive it back to Earth to harvest...and for the last time, somebody used English units of measure when everybody else was using metric.

    Then Britain would really have the last laugh.

    --
    Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
  52. Rosbucs by rosbucs · · Score: 1

    ? Are you guys for real. Pluto was a planet til a few years ago some astronomers decided it wasn't. From the late 1920's til then it was a planet. So it needed a name and She named it.Disney had nothing to do with it. Not that I like disney. But this whole conversation is way beyond reality.