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Surveying the World of the Biggest Server Farms

1sockchuck writes "Rackspace said this week that it is managing more than 50,000 web servers, raising the question: who else has that many? Of companies that publicly discuss their server counts, there are only a handful that are near or above the 50,000 server mark, including 1&1 Internet, The Planet, and Akamai, as well as Rackspace. The larger totals are found among companies that don't discuss how many servers they're running. The leading suspects: Google, Microsoft, Amazon and eBay."

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  1. Re:50,000 web servers, not physical servers by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you bother to RTFA you'll see it isn't a netcraft server count, but a mention in their SEC reported earnings something they are unlikely to just make up.

    The comparisons are with netcraft numbers. And those netcraft numbers are explicitly not IP address counts and have rackspace as way under 50,000 (which you would expect since many machines wouldn't be web servers (database backends, mail servers, etc) and many would be firewalled to not allow public access.

  2. Re:Shouldn't it be easy to figure out? by confused+one · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doesn't always work. A lot of datacenters are not filled out because the power density of racks of modern servers is so high it can result in the datacenter exceeding the available electric service, if they filled out all of their space..

  3. From TFA by actionbastard · · Score: 2, Informative

    Netcraft has developed a technique for identifying the number of computers (rather than IP addresses) acting as web servers on the internet, and attributes these computers to hosting locations through reverse DNS lookups."

    Apparently it's not just the number of webservers (just IP addresses), but the number of physical boxes these guys are running. If Netcraft's technique is valid, then it could be helpful in determining the 'true' penetration of FOSS based server installs on the Internet. This could severely impact the ranking of sites that are hosted on certain proprietary OSes.

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  4. Re:just look at the cooling equipment by afidel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, MS doesn't do HTTPS on their update site because they do PKI signing on the update package themselves so they don't need to.

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  5. Re:just look at the cooling equipment by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 4, Informative

    MS has approximately 160,000. When I was there a year ago, I did a tour of one of their test datacenters... (even regular staff don't get to tour production), and they remarked that they'd recently turned on their 150,000th.

  6. Re:50,000 web servers, not physical servers by m.ducharme · · Score: 4, Informative

    If this is to be believed, they salvage and rebuild as much as they can, and send the rest to recycling.

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  7. Google Data Center Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hello,
    I have worked supporting Google's servers in one of my former employers data center. What I can tell you about there deployments is as follows:
    1) 20,000 Servers in our data center; they occupied 8 other sites (~160,000 servers). Our site was one of the largest.
    2) Over 30 GigE connections feeding into dual Juniper M20 later upgraded to Juniper T-320
    3) Yes they run a custom version of RH

    Now for the record; they had approx 160,000 servers in our companies data centers. I have met techs from other data centers which had similar counts. At a minimum I can confirm approx 160,000 and potentially 320,000 and up for other data centers; providing they mirrored their servers. It wouldn't make sense to put all your eggs (servers) in one basket. The time frame for these numbers was back in the early 2002.

    1. Re:Google Data Center Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I am the originator of this thread. Yes, I know for a fact that they have expanded. The contract that was signed with Google was "Right of First Refusal".

      The "Right of First Refusal" gave Google the power to be the first to occupy new space before any additional customers. At the time they had 1/3 of the data center. My old co-workers said that they had expanded again over the years.

      All I know is that they their deployment is even larger. At this point I have no idea of their size. I know it's big; very big. To quote Winston Zeddmore:

      That's a Big Twinkie...

      Ok...Ghostbusters quote ... I couldn't help it. :-)

  8. Re:just look at the cooling equipment by CharredMetal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft would have a total pile but since they can't even do SSL on their update sites they are running cheap and probably have less than 300k even with hotmail

    The update protocol does winhttps (SSL). The actual file downloads are simple winhttp, since they are signed.

  9. Re:Yahoo? by eldorel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ask, and ye shall receive...
    US_realm_list_by_datacenter

  10. Re:1&1 by rbrausse · · Score: 3, Informative

    sorry for the second reply but according to the homepage ( http://www.1und1.com/ [in German]) the company has over 7.2 million customers in Germany, UK, France, Spain, Austria and the USA running on more than 55k servers.