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Hacker Destroys Avsim.com, Along With Its Backups

el americano writes "Flight Simulator community website Avsim has experienced a total data loss after both of their online servers were hacked. The site's founder, Tom Allensworth, explained why 13 years of community developed terrains, skins, and mods will not be restored from backups: 'Some have asked whether or not we had back ups. Yes, we dutifully backed up our servers every day. Unfortunately, we backed up the servers between our two servers. The hacker took out both servers, destroying our ability to use one or the other back up to remedy the situation.'"

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  1. One word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Owned.

  2. like the backups should have been by OttoM · · Score: 3, Funny

    You now will be escorted off-site.

  3. Re:the web is ephemeral by rve · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe future historians will consider this a dark age, whose intellectual production was lost.

    Please don't say our treasured facebook, twitter, slashdot posts, wikipedia revision wars and v1agra spam may not be preserved for posterity.

    I'm not yet convinced that information that today exists only on the internet is really meant for eternity :)

  4. Re:yes we had backups by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait, we have to care? I thought we were supposed to point and laugh...

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  5. Re:Really? by RattFink · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone who hacks a flight-sim sight has no life and really needs to get laid.

    Coming from a slashdotter that is pretty rough.

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  6. Re:This should be a lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    But then who's going to take out the Gibson?

  7. Eternity by hessian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only goatse is eternal. The rest is being used to seed a randomness generator somewhere.

  8. Of course I have an extra set of keys.. by droidsURlooking4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I kept them in my other pocket.

  9. Public Viewing by jeric23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A public viewing will be available at:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080116064652/http://www.avsim.com/

    No date has been set for the funeral.

  10. Re:This should be a lesson... by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear it's murder. ;)

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  11. Re:This should be a lesson... by darkpixel2k · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thirteen years is a lot of data.

    Bah--it's not that bad. They actually have crude backups of all their terrain data. They just have to figure out how to restore from 'IRL' format.

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  12. Re:This should be a lesson... by LaskoVortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about we start shooting people who can't recognize jokes. Sheesh.

    Then who would mod for slashdot?

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  13. Re:This should be a lesson... by someone1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, when rats attack your cellar, you pick the most intelligent and ask for advice?
    Or just kill them by anything at hand.

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  14. Re:This should be a lesson... by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, when rats attack your cellar, you pick the most intelligent and ask for advice?

    Yes, he said don't worry about it and go back to posting on Slashdot.

  15. Re:This should be a lesson... by unlametheweak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because after all, we know that words only have one meaning, so if someone uses the word "hacker" one way, it must mean the same thing as when everyone uses the word hacker.

    I think everybody in the Linux and MS-DOS-prompt community knows what a hacker is. However, I will supply you with a formal definition:

    According to Eric S. Raymond, a confirmed higher deity and the mastermind behind the geek unification conspiracy, hackers are a group of neo-pagan, anarchist, smelly, arrogant, gun nuts and highly intelligent bastards who wish to establish an intellectual junta, which will be known as The Irate Rand-worshiping Anarchist THC-growing E-lliance, or IRATE.

    - Ref: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hacker

  16. Re:the web is ephemeral by rve · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wikipedia revision wars will be a GOLDMINE for future archeologist.

    Think about just how much they reveal about a certain topic.

    Such as the difference of opinion about the color variations of the carrot !

  17. Re:This should be a lesson... by funkboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    What, you mean like this guy? You probably wouldn't even have the browser you're using right now if it weren't for that particular, uh. hacker.

    And ironically, JWZ has a pretty good simple guide on backups: http://www.jwz.org/doc/backups.html

  18. Re:This should be a lesson... by Scaba · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why would you put that on your resume?

  19. Re:Lies, damn lies. by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    lightening hits your building or arson or theft

    I thought lightening came under theft

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  20. Re:This should be a lesson... by magarity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, we can make a good car analogy out of this: Having a backup car in case your primary car crashes is a great idea (if you can afford it). Except that instead of keeping their backup car locked in the garage, these people attached their backup car to their primary car with a tow bar and dragged it around everywhere they went. When the primary car crashed, the backup ran into it a fraction of a second later. Now they're sad that their backup car is dead too and are somehow suprised they don't have anything to drive.

  21. Re:Lies, damn lies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You only have 4GB of irreplaceable data?

    Just my family photos/videos archive broke the 2TB boundary this year, and that doesn't include the 1TB of archive media from my personal projects (images, old versions of personal websites, video montages, etc).

    I think having a normally off, seldom used mirror of my 3TB of data the best backup solution I can muster.

    You only have 3TB of irreplaceable data? I'm currently up to 5PB, though half of that is my pr0n collection.

  22. Addition to the lesson... by geekmux · · Score: 5, Funny

    To any sysadmins and DBAs...

    Make sure you have offsite backups

    Any person in the IT community who was alive to remember the events of 9/11 should have learned a valuable IT lesson from that event.

    Repeat after me. I will not store my "offsite" backups in the other tower.

  23. Re:This should be a lesson... by Swordsman02155 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who really needs their services knows howe to contact them and knows that if he has to ask the price, then it's too expensive for his needs.

    The A-Team does data recoveries now?

  24. Re:Lies, damn lies. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    (images, old versions of personal websites, video montages, etc).

    That's not an archive, pal, that's evidence.

    You wanna destroy that stuff, the sooner the better.

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  25. Re:Lies, damn lies. by Mr2cents · · Score: 5, Funny

    Note to self: never, ever ask you about your hobbies.

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  26. Re:This should be a lesson... by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sheesh, so many questions. Why worry about that junk? We'll just let the flight simulation software deal with that.....oh wait...