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Senate Sources Say CTO Confirmation a Done Deal

theodp writes "On Tuesday, the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation will examine the nomination of Aneesh Chopra as the first-ever federal Chief Technology Officer. Senate sources said they were not aware of any debate surrounding his nomination. You'd think the hack-for-$10-million-ransom of Virginia's Prescription Monitoring Program might be good for a question or two. Or the wisdom of appointing a CTO who's no technologist. It might also be worth bringing up Chopra's membership in TiE-DC, a group which promises 'exclusive peer networking events' with government officials and Federal contractors, including TiE-DC sponsor Microsoft. Are there any other issues that might make the Confirmation Hearing more than a rubber-stamping?"

111 comments

  1. ODF? by levell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a Brit, this appointment won't affect me directly. But indirectly US Government policy has an important global effect. I'll be watching closely to see whether ODF becomes widely used as a document format by the US Federal Government.

    The ODF Alliance have welcomed the appointment, as have Tim O'Reilly and a host of other people so I'm hopeful that it will turn out to be a good thing

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    1. Re:ODF? by lorenlal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Or the wisdom of appointing a CTO who's no technologist."

      That's all I need to read to know the following:
      -US tech policy will go to the highest bidder.
      -That nationalized EMR database? Virginia*50.
      -The ODF standard that you're talking about? Open Document Format? "Microsoft has one, and it's perfectly fine."
      -Rubber stamping? Nothing to stop this one. With control of the senate in Dem hands, they won't waste time questioning whoever the pres appoints. Even if the Reps were the majority, I don't think anyone in the Senate understands that the internet is anything other than a series of tubes.

      Oh - from TFA: "Chopra concedes that he's not an expert on the inner workings of technical systems. 'What I brought to the table was an understanding of the capabilities of new technologies and how they might advance a particular agenda,' he said."

      That quote tells me: While he says he's not a tech guy, he thinks he knows more about the tech's potential than those implementing it. That's lovely.

      I'm hopeful that I'm wrong. I'll stand up and say that I'm wrong happily if I am.

    2. Re:ODF? by yincrash · · Score: 0, Troll

      You infer a whole lot.

    3. Re:ODF? by shakuni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I am not a supporter of any particular person, I think a CTO doesnt need to be a specialist but should have the breadth of understanding across a range of issues around technologies, have the strong analytical sense so that he or she can organize problems and solutions in a structure that makes decision making possible. I think it is structured thinking and a demonstrated love for technology that are important not advanced knowledge of a particular focussed discipline.

    4. Re:ODF? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny

      Infer a penny, infer a pound.

    5. Re:ODF? by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A sound bullshit detector might also be useful...

    6. Re:ODF? by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 0

      I agree, and this rules out the current choice - I have never met a good CTO that wasn't very broad but also a recognized leader in a specific field. Usually a CTO with a background in Physics or Applied mathematics can pretty much comprehend anything thrown at them from a technology standpoint - Public Administration and Business grads need not apply (unless you got it as a second degree to go along with that Physics/math/Engineering degree)

    7. Re:ODF? by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I am not a supporter of any particular person, I think a CTO doesnt need to be a specialist but should have the breadth of understanding across a range of issues around technologies, have the strong analytical sense so that he or she can organize problems and solutions in a structure that makes decision making possible. I think it is structured thinking and a demonstrated love for technology that are important not advanced knowledge of a particular focussed discipline.

      This is the usual argument in support of the proposition that management is a generic skill that can be applied to any area of endeavor without specific expertise in that domain. In practice, a high level manager of technology with no technology background will be a disaster every time.

      The poster child for this is John Sculley, parachuted in from Pepsi to be CEO of Apple and nearly driving it into the ground. There are many other examples. Color me highly skeptical of the proposition that management without understanding ever makes sense. At best, a nontechnical CTO will try to get by with good advice. But this is inefficient, and no substitute for first hand knowledge. Furthermore, management by committee as this strategy amounts to tends to degenerate into a scramble to serve non-technical, you could say political, issues, pushing good technological policy to the side.

      Imagine how a country might fare at war if civilians were its generals.

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    8. Re:ODF? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Are you stoned, or just stupid?

      1. This has very little to do with character sets. Ever hear of "semantics" and "presentation"? And yes, Virginia, these do matter.

      2. Those items aside, very few languages can be written correctly using only ASCII characters.

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    9. Re:ODF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2. Those items aside, very few languages can be written correctly using only ASCII characters.

      All the ones that matter can.

    10. Re:ODF? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      You must be confusing ASCII with Unicode. Otherwise, you're basically saying that no language besides English* "matters", and there are only around 3 or 4 billion people who would disagree with you about that.

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      *(Well, Dutch, Malay, and Bahasa Indonesia can also be written using ASCII only... but I somehow doubt you were thinking of any of those.)

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    11. Re:ODF? by gringofrijolero · · Score: 1

      'What I brought to the table was an understanding of the capabilities of new technologies and how they might advance a particular agenda...

      Very scary. So now we'll get a guy who spins dials and pushes buttons but doesn't have a clue as to what they do. Don't tell him which one is the seat ejection.

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  2. Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is there no way you could have written a more biased, uninformed summary? Geesh...

    It's submissions like this that bring down the quality of slashdot.

    1. Re:Seriously... by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      And it's comments like yours (and, now, mine... thanks) that bring it down further.

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    2. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it's comments like yours (and, now, mine... thanks) that bring it down further.

      me too!

    3. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it's comments like yours (and, now, mine... thanks) that bring it down further.

      me too!

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  3. Should and will are different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the question is not are there issues that prevent a rubber stamp, but are there issues that SHOULD prevent a rubber stamp. What happens in Congress and what Congress is supposed to do are 2 different things. Politically, I think this is viewed as a fringe issue few will care about, so no ones wants to rock the popular Obama boat challenging it.

  4. Paranoid much? by jcr · · Score: 1

    Why does your post above sound like diatribes I've heard about Jews and banking?

    There are a lot of Indian IT workers. There are also a lot of American IT workers, too. So what?

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Paranoid much? by kurt555gs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Indian part does not bother me, the Microsoft part does.

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  5. More centralization! by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By all means, centralize all IT policy for the federal government into some agency that knows basically squat about what each department does. These days, inefficiency in government is about all the chance we get for freedom.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:More centralization! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These days, inefficiency in government is about all the chance we get for freedom.

      Should have thought about that before combining a D president with a nearly filibuster-proof D congress.

    2. Re:More centralization! by noidentity · · Score: 1

      These days, inefficiency in government is about all the chance we get for freedom.

      Except freedom to keep most of what we earn, unfortunately.

    3. Re:More centralization! by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Centralization of these functions is not necessarily a bad thing. I work in the group that maintains the backbone network of a heavily decentralized county government, and I would love to have someone who could put in place some guidance that is heavily backed by the Board of Supervisors to the degree that someone has to provide some very good reasons when they don't follow it. Instead, we have 26 agencies with 26 IT departments, about half of whom do not care in the slightest to match what anyone else does and therefore do what they want, no matter whether it inconveniences anyone else.

      I'm all for letting people do what it takes to meet their individual agency business needs, but there is plenty of room for standardization that just isn't happening. I see little reason why installations of Windows workstations and servers can't be born from a common platform, tested and hardened, but instead, most run the default installation and do any customizations themselves, if they feel the need to do so. It's a horrible waste, and I can only think that it's even worse at the state level, and far worse at the federal level.

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    4. Re:More centralization! by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      Get off my roads.

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    5. Re:More centralization! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except freedom to keep most of what we earn, unfortunately.

      Move to Sweden, then complain about taxes.

      Most Americans wouldn't know real taxation if it came up and bit their faces off.

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    6. Re:More centralization! by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      Get off my roads.

      I'll pay for roads. The DOT budget is pretty insignificant really...
      I'll pay for national defense. I'd even pay wars of aggression if we actually got a return on investment.
      Hell, I'd even pay for public ed if you could fix the current system.

      I'm not too keen on paying the ~40% of the total budget used to pay old people, so they can spend more time on vacation.

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    7. Re:More centralization! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea! Everybody should work as Boxer did... until death. If you don't die on the clock, you are slacking off.

      10 ?"I must work harder."
      20 ?"Napoleon is always right."
      30 goto 10

    8. Re:More centralization! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except freedom to keep most of what we earn, unfortunately.

      Move to Sweden, then complain about taxes.

      Most Americans wouldn't know real taxation if it came up and bit their faces off.

      Luckily, we've now got a President bent on correcting that.

    9. Re:More centralization! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      And this would be a bad thing, assuming that it actually got spent on things like roads and schools and medical care?

      I don't have a problem with paying the taxes here, since the Swedish government uses a good part of them on things that are actually beneficial to the country's residents (including me), and hasn't spent anything on waging wars in a couple of centuries.

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    10. Re:More centralization! by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      I'd even pay wars of aggression if we actually got a return on investment.

      Wow. It's refreshing to see someone come out on the side of evil so openly. At least you have the balls to do so... I can't help but admire your courage, even as I loathe your viewpoint.

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    11. Re:More centralization! by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      You'd only think this is a bad thing if you've never been to Sweden.

    12. Re:More centralization! by BoothbyTCD · · Score: 1

      Please give us more face biting like Sweden. (though I will note I am an NYC resident and have fairly high taxation already, b US standards).

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    13. Re:More centralization! by jcr · · Score: 1

      Should have thought about that before combining a D president with a nearly filibuster-proof D congress.

      Oh, I'm sure we'll get plenty of inefficiency from those clowns.

      -jcr

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  6. Rubberstamp by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are there any other issues that might make the Confirmation Hearing more than a rubber-stamping?

    Dude, Congress ignored illegal wiretaps, Bush signing statements, being lied to about Iraq, and torture. But they did find time to have hearings on the Bowl Championship Series playoff system.

    Do you think they really give a f*ck about something substantial?

    1. Re:Rubberstamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't ignore illegal wiretaps, being "lied" to or anything of the sort.

      The claimed they were lied to or uninformed when in fact they approved and supported it while telling the American people otherwise.

    2. Re:Rubberstamp by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 0

      Interesting. Why do you believe that?

    3. Re:Rubberstamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nancy Pelosi for starters.

    4. Re:Rubberstamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interesting. Why do you believe that?

      Do you live under a rock?

      House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: CIA Lied to Me

      Dems: CIA briefers may have broken law

      After all their grandstanding on "torture", it turns out the numerous Dems were fully briefed back in 2002 on what was going on.

      So now Pelosi et al are squealing "The CIA lied! The CIA broke the law!"

      Conveniently for Pelosi, the person who probably briefed her died three years ago.

  7. Huh? by value_added · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps as a Canadian I don't appreciate the finer points of the American political process, but I'm having trouble finding a meaningful relationship in this sequence of events:

    1. Senate Hearing is scheduled.

    2. Random Blog quotes unnamed "[s]enate sources" as saying "they were not aware of any debate surrounding his nomination."

    3. Slashdot editors release a news story with a headline of "Senate Sources Say CTO Confirmation a Done Deal"

    4. Thinly disguised editorial consisting mostly of anti-Microsoft remarks and an assertion that confirmation hearings are a sham process is submitted as a news story to Slashdot.

    Sigh. I guess I'll have to reconsider Slashdot as primary source of news and go back to reading newspapers and watching C-SPAN.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Slashdot never was and is not a source of news. It's a news aggregator.

    2. Re:Huh? by TropicalCoder · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Thinly disguised editorial consisting mostly of anti-Microsoft remarks and an assertion that confirmation hearings are a sham process is submitted as a news story to Slashdot."

      I don't get what you are complaining about here. Is it the "anti-Microsoft remarks" that put you off? Here on Slashdot, we enjoy a sprinkling of anti-Microsoft remarks in just about any article or comment, as others enjoy a dash of pepper on their pasta to spice up their food. I suppose if you personally don't enjoy this, perhaps this is not the forum for you.

    3. Re:Huh? by oldhack · · Score: 1

      It's like that other story here about "News dilemma." We get what we pay for.

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    4. Re:Huh? by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Some people like to pour down cheese on spaghetti. Maybe the guy's a cheese-loving sort of Canadian.

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    5. Re:Huh? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Thinly disguised editorial consisting mostly of anti-Microsoft remarks and an assertion that confirmation hearings are a sham process is submitted as a news story to Slashdot.

      You do have a point. That's not actually news.

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    6. Re:Huh? by HiggsBison · · Score: 1

      It is because of considered postings such as yours that I value Slashdot for its news and analysis.
      Stay eloquent, my friend.

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    7. Re:Huh? by gringofrijolero · · Score: 1

      It is not. It's click aggregator for the advertisers...and the ~CIA~ ooooOOOOOoooo....

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  8. CxO by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or the wisdom of appointing a CTO who's no technologist.

    I think "knowing anything at all about what you're doing" stopped being a requirement for executive positions around the time of Worldcom's collapse... at least if you go by public statements by major corporate executives since then.

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    1. Re:CxO by funkboy · · Score: 1

      I think "knowing anything at all about what you're doing" stopped being a requirement for executive positions around the time of Worldcom's collapse... at least if you go by public statements by major corporate executives since then.

      As CTO of the country, would you rather have:

        - a geek, or

        - somebody really good listening to at managing geeks?

      Chopra is squarely in the second category.

    2. Re:CxO by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Do the geeks think that he's good at managing them? I've had plenty of managers whom their superiors have thought were good at managing geeks, but who were hated by those they oversaw, and who were sometimes the targets of sabotage to get them out. I'd be interested in the turnover under Chopra (and one may need to look several levels lower) to see how he's perceived in the trenches.

      Of course, this may be like the cybersecurity czar: a lot of work to get someone in place who then has no real power to do anything.

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    3. Re:CxO by theodp · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps a third category - good at outsourcing geeks. :-)

    4. Re:CxO by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, he doesn't have any staff - at least not yet. His role appears to be advisory. He's a direct report to the president, so he can cruise around Washington meeting with Gov't depts and trying to help them get their tech plans rolling (or whatever). If they don't like his help, they can know that he might sandbag them with POTUS. So he's going to have a lot of influence in Washington, but not a lot of "line authority." At least that's the best as I can figure it.

  9. a bit sensitive are we? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does your post above sound like diatribes I've heard about Jews and banking?

    There are a lot of Indian IT workers. There are also a lot of American IT workers, too. So what?

    -jcr

    No need to yank out the race card, every time legitimate concerns are raised.

  10. Microsorft = BAD!!! by AndGodSed · · Score: 3, Funny

    I read something negative about Microsoft in the summary and decided to jump in with an uninformed jibe of my own.

    M$ is Teh Suxorz!

  11. What is the problem? by scooter.higher · · Score: 2, Funny

    We have the best politicians money can buy.

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    1. Re:What is the problem? by daveime · · Score: 1

      We have the best politicians corporate money can buy.

      FTFY

  12. A CTO by zoomshorts · · Score: 1

    Need not be overly technically savvy, just be able to understand
    the basic ideas and make a fair choice. Sadly. politics WILL rear
    it's ugly head and compromise things. So sad.

    1. Re:A CTO by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      "Need not be overly technically savvy, just be able to understand the basic ideas and make a fair choice."

      You need to be technically savvy to understand the basic ideas of information technology and make fair choices.

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  13. issues? really? by nemoest · · Score: 5, Informative

    God forbid someone in the VA-MD-DC area belongs to a group used for professional networking! As we all know, most non-profit professional groups have no sponsors whatsoever.

    Also, who's to say he's not qualified to do the job just because of being labeled not a technologist back in 2005? Maybe what is needed for a CTO position is someone who understands how government and policy is applied (see MPP degree reference) to solve problems, and how the application of technology is a key factor?

    I do agree, though, some questions about the Prescription Monitoring Program would be warranted.

    But really, with the tax problems of other appointees, maybe most of this stuff is seen as small potatoes. If you don't agree, though, feel free to contact someone on the committee. The hearing starts on Tuesday.

  14. CTO = BAD!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, we are supposed to be pissed at Microsoft for being connected to some group or another. I also gather that I'm supposed to be in a blind rage over the CTO nominee, who has shown very few divine powers and who may not in fact be a direct descendant of Jesus Christ.

    If only Microsoft and the CTO nominee guy would leave us alone there would surely be paradise on Earth.

  15. The real truth... by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Interesting. Why do you believe that?

    Because the truth of the matter is twofold:

    a) First Democrats were terrified of losing everything in the wake of 9/11. Up until the invasion of Iraq, their strategy was to try and out Republican the Republicans on national security. And, the American people were -super- pissed off. There was a poll that came out just after 9/11 that showed that 90% of all Americans favored the use of nuclear weapons in Afghanistan. Despite the whole classroom incident, Bush on the rubble at the WTC with the megaphone was one of the greatest moments of any President in our lifetime, so great, frankly, that he milked that one moment for the rest of his term without ever really living up to it again.

    You have to remember that if Democrats go lefty after 9/11, they might lose the Senate worse than they did. In those days, a Republican veto proof majority meant that Social Security becomes privatized. With the stakes that high, there's really no limit to what the Democrats would do to save their baby.

    b) Democrats are actually patriots too, and they might have actually felt betrayed. Let's remember that in the 1990s American policy towards Islam was continually conciliatory in hopes of reaching out. We swept a bunch of terrorist attacks under the rug, pushed for a Palestinian state, looked the other way when Saddam cheated the sanctions, let Pakistan become completely islamified and ignored crackdowns in Saudi Arabia and Iran, and finally we bombed the wrong side in the balkans war, to do a favor to the muslims.

    All of this brought us nothing, but 9/11. So yeah, they were in a political climate where they felt they had to be ruthless, or lose everything.

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    1. Re:The real truth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really think there was a conciliatory policy towards Islam? The US' support for a Palestinian state was a joke, considering Israel can only say no thanks to US' aid, which itself goes against the claimed policy of not aiding nuclear powers. And the sanctions against Iraq were placed by the US, so claiming that you let a few pass is like a rapist letting his victim clean up a little, the victim won't exactly be grateful for that.
        The handling of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is the typical US fuck up, so often supporting dictatorships until they are no longer useful. Like Saddam.
        I'm not sure how the US bombed the wrong side in the Balkans, I suppose you'd have liked to support the genocidal Milosevic (damn slashdot and its lack of support for UTF-8).
        As for Iran, the US just doesn't know what it's doing, certainly the pressure doesn't help to drive away the fanatics (not everybody is a fanatic in Iran, by a long shot).

    2. Re:The real truth... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      looked the other way when Saddam cheated the sanctions

      You were only looking the other way so as not to get the dust from the repeated bombings in your eyes.

      let Pakistan become completely islamified

      How and why would you go about denying freedom of religion to another country?

      It's not you lack of intervention in their lives that makes these people hate you, it's the fact that you keep bombing the fuck out of their families and acting as though you're somehow justified in all these killings.

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    3. Re:The real truth... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      let Pakistan become completely islamified

      How and why would you go about denying freedom of religion to another country?

      It is not "denying freedom of religion" to prevent the typical Muslim practice of murdering its opponents. The why is obvious.

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    4. Re:The real truth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What color is the sky in your world? Sheesh, cherry-picking geopolitical events to fit your wierd-ass narrative is hardly insightful, moderators.

      Islam isn't a monolith, your claimed greatest photo-op mention is virtually never politically mentioned by historians or the media, you ignore a decade of declining US stature and the economic damage parallels between USSR-Afghanistan and US-Iraq wars, torture, blue dogs and RINOs, the religious right's influence on politics, plagues, stripmining the oceans and droughts, peak oil, flattening of world economics, trade expansions, oligarchs, Putin, Turkey vs. kurds, Dubai and UAE economics, the entire pacific rim, China, the second wave of capitalistic internet...

      and yet you found time to decide that wars in the Balkans were about doing a favor for muslims.

      Seriously, if the sky is pink where you live and the shipping costs aren't too steep, I've got some wicked biotechnology plans that don't work well under a blue sky.

    5. Re:The real truth... by tjstork · · Score: 1

      and yet you found time to decide that wars in the Balkans were about doing a favor for muslim

      Dude, the stuff that you just wrapped about was completely irrelevant. Torture? Stature? Blue Dogs? RINOs? The Religious Right? Stripmining? There is not a single one of those things that will be remembered by any intellectually honest historian, but the narrative of American reaction to a perceived Islamic betrayal will. That's the problem with you lefties.... you make so much noise to try and get what you want that you forget that its actually noise.

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    6. Re:The real truth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Error. Bush's moment with the bullhorn was ridiculous playacting, based on Dubya's prior experience as cheerleader (really). It does nothing, absolutely nothing to cover up the acts of high treason by him and his cabinet, leading up to, during, and after 9/11. Bush and his cronies came to power (and stayed there) through massive election fraud, and started planning the Iraqi and Afghani invasions immediately after this shameful coup was completed.

      Think about it. The 2000 election was even mocked by the Russians, who offered 'assistance' with the 'democratic process'. Their sarcasm was wholly justified for once.

      Let me quote you ~27 year CIA veteran Ray McGovern:

      "It has long been clear that the Bush-Cheney administration cynically exploited the attacks of 9/11 to promote its imperial designs. But the present volume confronts us with evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited."

      Six other CIA veterans seriously doubt the official narrative. All kinds of expert and veteran groups concur. See patriotsquestion911 (dot) com.

      9/11 happened on Bush's watch (Your partisan opportunism is therefore laughable), and the attacks were indeed assisted by various elements in the US government. Internationally, this is more accepted than in the US, since in the US it is both psychologically unbearable and blasphemous to openly come to terms with the FULL PICTURE of what happened on 9/11. The world continues to suffer because of this treason as destructive and illegal wars are waged, privacy and civil liberties are trashed, and human rights are violated. The world community cannot allow the official conspiracy theory to go unchallenged any longer. As we speak, Obama declares himself and his predecessors above the law. Doesn't that tell you something?

      And if my words do not convince you, answer me these questions: /Who/ was responsible for the Anthrax attacks? /Who/ was initially blamed for it? /Who/ was harmed, and /who/ benefits?

      THAT is how it works, and THAT is the truth of the matter.

    7. Re:The real truth... by Risen888 · · Score: 1

      Let's remember that in the 1990s American policy towards Islam was continually conciliatory in hopes of reaching out. We swept a bunch of terrorist attacks under the rug, pushed for a Palestinian state, looked the other way when Saddam cheated the sanctions...

      Not true at all. Camp David (and the Clinton policy as a whole) wasn't about "pushing for a Palestinian state" by any means, far from it. And by "looked the other way," I can only assume you mean "bombed the shit out of the country that we had already devastated."

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    8. Re:The real truth... by Risen888 · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sorry. I replied to your original post, but now that I read down a little further, I see you're just a bigot. Never mind my earlier message.

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    9. Re:The real truth... by tjstork · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sorry. I replied to your original post, but now that I read down a little further, I see you're just a bigot. Never mind my earlier message

      This coming from a political spectrum that denies Americans the right of choice for their own education because they do not like religion.

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    10. Re:The real truth... by tjstork · · Score: 1

      Not true at all. Camp David (and the Clinton policy as a whole) wasn't about "pushing for a Palestinian state" by any means, far from it

      Of course it was. That was the whole point of the Oslo accords, but Arafat broke his promises, and they broke down, and then you had the Wye accords, which Arafat broke, and then, you had the whole final acords that Araft walked out of, and broke by declaring war on Israel...

      Clinton did everything any US President could do for Palestine, and Arafat pissed all over him.

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    11. Re:The real truth... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      let Pakistan become completely islamified

      How and why would you go about denying freedom of religion to another country?

      It is not "denying freedom of religion" to prevent the typical Muslim practice of murdering its opponents. The why is obvious.

      How many bombings will it take to put a stop to that practice?

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    12. Re:The real truth... by Risen888 · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute, I thought you didn't like religion. Or is just that you don't like brown people's religion?

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  16. Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Hercules+Peanut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The democrats have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and solid control of the House. They aren't going to make their own party look bad and don't have to give the Republicans a chance to do it. This is the problem with putting a single party in almost total power. We will see more of this until some sort of balance is restored.

    If you thought the Republicans did a lot of damage controlling the Executive and Legislative, just wait. The Democrats have an opportunity here with the overwhelming majority to do far more. For all of you scientists out there you are going to get a crash course in faith because that is about the only thing we can have that bad does not become worse over the next two or more years. We certainly don't have any control or checks or balances.

    Understand that this is not a Republican vs Democrat rant. I don't trust any of them to look out for the good of the nation. That's why I am deeply concerned about any one party dominating government.

    1. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Understand that this is not a Republican vs Democrat rant

      I understand. The Republicans screwed some things up when they had this, but the Democrats will REALLY screw things up, and we should be REALLY worried. Yup, that's apolicital.

    2. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by darkmeridian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I doubt that the Democrats could top the Republicans in starting an unneeded war, cutting taxes for the rich by $1 trillion, embarking on a $50 billion (unfunded) Medicare prescription drug program, illegal wiretapping, torture, outing a CIA agent for political gain, allowing North Korea to gets tehs nukes, ban stem cell research, make political affiliation a criteria for selection of Department of Justice employees, or unrestricted instances of extraordinary rendition.

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    3. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Toonol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really? Half of those bullet points were due to Republicans acting like Democrats. I have no doubt that list can be topped by the current administration. What they've already done to industry may be far worse than any consequence of the war.

    4. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      Except for, you know, all the dead people.

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    5. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, he explicitly pointed out that the Democrats currently have more power (in part by having ~60 votes in the Senate) than the Republicans did and that is why we should be more worried.

    6. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt that the Democrats could top the Republicans in starting an unneeded war, cutting taxes for the rich by $1 trillion, embarking on a $50 billion (unfunded) Medicare prescription drug program, illegal wiretapping, torture, outing a CIA agent for political gain, allowing North Korea to gets tehs nukes, ban stem cell research, make political affiliation a criteria for selection of Department of Justice employees, or unrestricted instances of extraordinary rendition.

      Is that a challenge?

    7. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Toonol · · Score: 2

      Death doesn't trump everything else. I'd rather have another Iraq war than have the Federal government seize control of banking and medicine.

    8. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      Well, of course. The Iraq war didn't affect you at all.

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    9. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Toonol · · Score: 1

      No, it did. You just have to look at the ultimate ramifications of various actions.

    10. Re:Why Open Things Up fopr Debate? by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

      I don't think this is an issue of Repubs/Dems, this is an issue of "in power/in opposition."

      The Republicans are definitely very good at being in the minority - they can clamor for lower spending, less government, etc, but put them in power and they act just like Democrats: that tells me that the people in power exert power and spend money. That's not a Repub/Dem thing, since they both do it whenever possible.

      For the last eight years many Dems have been griping about too much spending, but put them in power and now see what they do.

      And look at history: put Regan in power, what does he do? Spends up a storm. Republicans aren't anti-spending, they're anti-Democrat-spending.

  17. Have you ever met a CTO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems our government is adopting the same policy as business when it comes to hiring CTOs - hire someone who does the best job of schmoozing and regurgitating what vendors tell them, and who has a really nice shiny degree. Seriously, anyone who has ever dealt with one knows what I'm talking about. A CTO who has a REAL grasp on tech anymore is very, very, very rare. The CTO of our state recently spent a ton of money moving our state from Notes to Exchange because "it is going to save a ton of money!" Three years later, lots of money spent, and the state's biggest agency got the legislature to pass an injunction to prevent them from having to migrate to the horribly botched Exchange installation. Not kidding. I work for a large company that's part of one of the biggest and most stable in the country - and our CTO/VP IT is just plain clueless. The person is great at regurgitating anything MS or HP tells them, but really doesn't know anything about IT or even the business we're in. It's to the point where some of us seriously wonder if that person has blackmail on upper management as every project they've spearheaded has been an utter disaster. Think Dunder Mifflin Infinity. Seriously. It all boils down to the fact that most technical smart folks will do everything in the world to avoid being at the top, and the BS that goes along with it. So we get morons with fancy degrees who do a good job of schmoozing, but utterly fail at their jobs. Awesome.

    1. Re:Have you ever met a CTO? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      While I can see how a Notes-to-Exchange migration can go horribly wrong, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that the idea itself has a lot of merit. I've turned down job offers because I saw that they used Notes for e-mail. It may be a good application platform, but it's a horrible e-mail platform.

      That said, I can certainly relate to your views on CTOs. More and more often, I see CTOs who have business degrees and have to call for support for even the most minor things. Business degrees are fine for CEOs or COOs, but much as I expect a CFO to have a financial degree of some sort, I want my CTO to have a technical degree somewhere in there.

      The first test of a CEO is to ask about some company, and see how long it takes to bring up Gartner. I'd say that it's almost an automatic hire if they do not bring it up at all, and an automatic rejection if the first words out are, "Well, according to Gartner..."

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  18. what parts of jews and banking is wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any time you have a group, and more so if its religious fanatics, that controls a certain market you should worry about whether there is some backdoor stuff going on.

    As a son of immigrants I know very well how its preferable to work with 'one's own kind' as some people refer it. As someone who has worked in the jewelry and fur business, I know very well how this works.

    I also know that jews are exclusionary and racists so that makes me think that their minority is no different than others unlike other who think they are blessed with some super powers.

    Of course, the heavy brainwashing received through the press and pop culture treats israelis as a protected species that can do no wrong.
    Blaming all the ills on one group is wrong but giving carte blanche to religious freaks and be deathly afraid to criticize them is no better.

    Is DC israeli occupied territory like Pat Buchanan claims? Try to find me any one groups/person in DC that ever criticized the chosen people. You wont. It is the great american taboo.

    PS: When I say religious fanatics, Im referring to all brain dead morons who believe in the tooth fairy and the bogeyman and other fairy tales. Its easy to make fun of the ones we have in this country but there is no reason we should leave out the ones who would kill you for insulting their make believe world and the ones who would sue your ass.

    1. Re:what parts of jews and banking is wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Admit it! You're just a self-hating Jew, aren't you?!

    2. Re:what parts of jews and banking is wrong? by jcr · · Score: 1

      I also know that jews are exclusionary and racists

      Unlike you, Adolph?

      Go fuck yourself.

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  19. We've Had This Discussion, Guys by waldoj · · Score: 5, Informative

    We all discussed Aneesh Chopra on /. a month ago, folks. No less than Tim O'Reilly has vouched for him as a technological bad-ass. Read that. Read the comments. Then return here and carry on. There's no need for us to have to re-learn who this guy is every time he's written about here.

    1. Re:We've Had This Discussion, Guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But then how else are we going to complain about Obama and the Democrats over and over and over?

    2. Re:We've Had This Discussion, Guys by BaldingByMicrosoft · · Score: 1

      Clearly, he's able to embrace the synergistic opportunities provided by the Web 2.0 and Cloud Computing paradigms... What's not to like?

    3. Re:We've Had This Discussion, Guys by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Tim O'Reilly has vouched for him as a technological bad-ass

      That'd be the Vindaloo.

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  20. Re:issues? really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't get the anti-TiE comment either. We have a newsletter writer/blogger in Chicago (Ron May-The Ron May Report) who reports every networking connection someone has as a 'scandal', yet he shows up at every networking group event, eating all the food and taking full advantage of 'connections'.

    I'm presuming theodp had no memberships in any technical networking groups, especially any that would have any ties to Microsoft, Google or any other technology company.

  21. Dig deeper. by westlake · · Score: 0

    I'll be watching closely to see whether ODF becomes widely used as a document format by the US Federal Government.

    I am less interested in how a file is saved than how in it is used.

    The reasons for its creation.

  22. Chopra and the importance of intellectual property by TropicalCoder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It has been stated that maybe what is needed for a CTO position is someone who understands how government and policy is applied. If you watch this video where Paul Chopra in his capacity as Secretary of Technology for the Commonwealth of Virginia keynoted the 5th Annual State of the Net Conference 2009, you may come to the conclusion as I did that he is a very capable man, with the requisite political savvy to get things done. Political skills may turn out to be more important than geek level technical knowledge in the end. In this entire 51 minute video, it is hard to find fault with Mr. Chopra as he discusses such things as Virginia's open text book initiative. However it isn't until near the very end that some serious concerns are triggered for me. At 38:13 he speaks of a new initiative called "Plugged In" that rests on a very basic hypothesis that "In 6 months we can take a high school drop out and prepare them for a technology job." It is a GED program that reconstitutes the curriculum for adults adding in certificates "with the help of partners like Microsoft". A state government promoting a private company is worrisome to me.

    The second concern I had was at 48:30 where he is responding to a question about how to best stimulate innovative start-ups and entrepreneurship. To this he replies by talking about his "GAP Fund" that supplies $100 K investments to new start-ups "Restricted only to innovative technology companies that are grounded in intellectual property." "We have a billion service companies, but it's the grounding in intellectual property that to us is the secret, so it's targeting limited resources to intellectual property". He does not explain why "a billion service companies" are not important to him.

    Now when I played the question from the audience that provoked this response over a couple of times, it struck me as very strange. The question was: "There are tens of thousands of small startups that are really producing innovative products based on intellectual property. What is the best way that a state can promote small startups, and making sure of course that they collaborate with their IP, but it's protected and monetized in a way that they can sell it out to other places?" It leads one to ponder - why does the speaker consider intellectual property so important? Why does he emphasise it in just that way, rather than speak about hi tech startups in general? Could he have been a Microsoft plant? Suddenly as I listened to this, I got a vision of Microsoft lobbyists and sales people crawling all over government initiatives everywhere, making little deals here and there to ensure the open source is blocked at every turn.

  23. Should Chopra Clarify His Position on Offshoring? by theodp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since the White House said Chopra will be creating jobs and reducing health care costs, it seems a question or two about his involvement with Healthaxis should be asked. In 2005, Chopra took a seat on the Board of Healthaxis, which was brokered as part of an offshoring deal that required Healthaxis to throw offshoring work to an investor's BPO company in an effort to reduce the costs of its Utah and Jamaica resources. At the time of his 2006 resignation, Healthaxis reported to the SEC that Chopra, who also sat on the firm's Compensation Committee, had 'no disagreement with the Company on any matter'.

  24. Re:issues? really? by theodp · · Score: 1

    Should we contact Committee member Mark Warner, whose Friends of Mark Warner PAC receives contributions from Mr. Chopra? :-)

  25. Less centralization! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By all means, distribute all IT policy for the federal government into thousands of agencies that all do the same thing over and over again. These days, inefficiency in government is about all the chance we get for freedom.

    -rcj /IOW: morons will criticize the government no matter what it does are a dime a dozen on slashdot

  26. Re:issues? really? by nemoest · · Score: 1

    When it comes to selecting individuals for political appointments, quite often they are done for... well... political reasons. Sometimes it's because of bipartisanship, coalition building, or because someone is really well qualified. Other times it is because they are well networked or engaged in a little quid pro quo. Sure, if it is to the level of Blagojevich they may get caught, and we should discourage the outright sale of governmental positions. On the other hand, I still think as long as he was working within the rules, a total of $2450 in donations to Mark Warner isn't quite to the level where I'd be calling the ethics committee.

    It certainly didn't hurt his chances to make $2750 in donations to various Obama supporting groups either, but do I think it was a primary reason he was selected? Not really. I think he got selected because he's well connected and has prior experience in healthcare. With Obama's big push for electronic healthcare records and other cost savings measures, I do agree all the more with wanting some questions to be raised concerning the theft of pharmaceutical records in VA, but depending how the investigation goes, I believe the highest uphill it will get in the org chain is to this guy. More likely though, it'll stay a problem of the agency that oversaw the day to day operations.

  27. why a non techie CTO by rs232 · · Score: 1

    Generally the answer is; the people doing the hiring, being time-serving lackies, don't want anyone working for them that is smarter then them. And being non-techies themselves, risk losing control or looking stupid, as in a new techie-CTO would wonder why they got their job. The best way of getting found out is to hire a non-techie CTO and keep recycling the real IT staff .:)

    'Industry experience does little to prepare you for the additional complexities of working within the bounds of government .. Chopra has demonstrated that he has these skills .. Try a few of these Virginia technology initiatives on for size:'

    * the first officially-approved open source textbook in the country, the Physics Flexbook.

    * integrating iTunes U with Virginia's state education assessment framework;

    * the Learning Apps Development Challenge, a competition for the best iPhone and iPod Touch applications for middle-school math teaching;

    * a Ning-based social network to connect clinicians working in small health care offices in remote locations;

    * a state-funded "venture capital fund" to allow government agencies to try out risky but promising new approaches to delivering their services or improving their productivity;

    * a lightweight approval and testing process that allows the government to try out new technologies before making a full, expensive commitment.
    - unquote -

    If he's not a techie, then who actually created these ?

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  28. Republican Paradise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From 2003 through 2006 the Republicans had complete control over all three branches of the government. The result can be described as nothing other than the ideal Republican state. What happened? We got involved in a disastrous war. The federal budget exploded. The economy tanked. Government became more secretive. The Republican paradise quickly turned into the Republican hell.

    If you don't agree with how the Republicans behaved during their heyday then you don't agree with the Republican philosophy.

    1. Re:Republican Paradise by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Or, the Republicans acted contrary to their stated principles. Thus, one could support most Republican principles while despising what the current Republicans in power do.

  29. Next- Outsourcing National Infrastructure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of Chopra's biggest challenges will be to oversee the implementation of a $2 billion contract that will outsource the state's technology infrastructure and calls for hundreds of government workers to join the private sector.

    Donald W. Upson , the technology secretary under Gov. James S. Gilmore III, said Chopra will have a steep learning curve. "He's got a lack of experience, that's against him, but if he recognizes that and uses that office to bring people together, he can make a difference -- I hope he does," Upson said.

    Chopra concedes that he's not an expert on the inner workings of technical systems. "What I brought to the table was an understanding of the capabilities of new technologies and how they might advance a particular agenda," he said.

  30. Re:issues? really? by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

    Well said. I met with Chopra after he was nominated for this job, and my perception is that he's very in-tune with how government policy is impacted by technology, and how technology creates jobs in the private sector.

    He's not an open source advocate per se, but he definitely understands the principles of openness which can change the game in terms of how markets operate. So, I think we can rely on him to make honest assessments of where open source makes sense and deploying it (or advocating that others do so).

    My impression is that he's not a blind supporter of anything technological, but has a reasonable understanding of the relationships between policy and technology.

  31. Re:Congressional Oversight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't forget the All Important use of our tax dollars in the Congressional Investigations into Steroid/HGH use by Baseball Players!!