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Maddog's New Hampshire "Unix" Plate Turns 20

An anonymous reader writes "Local newspaper talks to Linux International's Jon 'maddog' Hall, who lives in New Hampshire, and who since 1989 has had a 'Live Free or Die' UNIX license plate — a real one, not a conference hand-out — on his Jeep. From the story: 'The day he installed the UNIX plates, he went early to work at DEC's office on Spit Brook Road in Nashua, to be sure to get the parking space right next to the door used by all the Unix engineers. He watched them come in and, one after another, do a double take at seeing the real-world version of the famous fake plate. "People would race in and yell, 'Who is it? Whose plate is it?!?'" Hall said. It was his then and it is his now. After 20 years, one suspects you will have to pry it from his cold, dead fingers.'"

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  1. Let's see how long he can keep it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's little known in the nerd community that "unix" has also negative conotations for example in certain ghettos in california an unix is a one-legged chinese hooker.
    I wonder how long it takes until someone is offended.

    1. Re:Let's see how long he can keep it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's little known in the nerd community that "unix" has also negative conotations for example in certain ghettos in california an unix is a one-legged chinese hooker.

      Call me sceptical, but this is remiscent of the bullshit entries near the bottom of the list on Urban Dictionary (3 thumbs up from the submitter and friends, 10 thumbs down from everyone else who stumbled across that piece of nonsense).

    2. Re:Let's see how long he can keep it. by JerkBoB · · Score: 5, Funny

      a one-legged chinese hooker.

      ... named Irene?

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    3. Re:Let's see how long he can keep it. by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Funny

      Eunuchs?

    4. Re:Let's see how long he can keep it. by vyruss000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      a one-legged chinese hooker.

      ... named Irene?

      No... named Eileen!

  2. I've seen a LINUX plate in Danbury, CT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I saw a chick driving a car with a Connecticut LINUX plate in Danbury. I just about divorced my wife right then and there. :)

    1. Re:I've seen a LINUX plate in Danbury, CT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      husband's car?

    2. Re:I've seen a LINUX plate in Danbury, CT by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      You almost left your wife for a hard-core cleaning lady???

      Damn, dude, time for some marital counseling.

    3. Re:I've seen a LINUX plate in Danbury, CT by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Informative

      I live in Luxembourg and I have never seen them either. That said, they seem to be genuine. At the manufacturers site Micro&Soft and Linux. Perhaps they are sold in Switserland (.ch)?

  3. Exactly how many are there...? by macraig · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TOFA:

    "The combination of "Live Free or Die" and "UNIX" on his Jeep Wrangler is the most celebrated New Hampshire license plate in the entire world!"

    Exactly how many are there?

    1. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      We here in Sweden celebrate New Hampshire license plates all the time. And this one is certainly the most celebrated here, without a doubt. I mean.. Why wouldn't we celebrate a license plate from New Hampshire? It would be silly not to really.

    2. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by nebaz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Live, Freeze, and Die.

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    3. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah yes, the famous Swedish Hampplattrsdag! I understand you even have a crispbread shaped like the plate.

      Here in the UK we named a county 'Hampshire' in honour. I have the misfortune to live 'next door' in West Sussex, but I am considering moving.

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    4. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Bysshe · · Score: 5, Funny

      That was the windows version.

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    5. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by virtualXTC · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well considering NH has the highest number of vanity plates per capita, I'd say, quite a few. I personally like the Linux and BSD license plates better, though those from NH would probably agree IH8RT3 is also in the top tier.

    6. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering that it for tax reasons isn't feasible to do farming in NH there has to be some kind of income.

      One thing that's attractive with NH is that the sales tax is extremely low. That has a tendency to attract visitors.

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    7. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yer?

      See the løveli lakes

      The wonderful telephøne system

      And mani interesting furry animals

    8. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Interesting

      RT3 isn't that bad, that's one of the major routes to/from NH (just select direction after preference! :-) )

      The worst thing I can think of when it comes to NH is the lousy GSM coverage when you get outside the main routes. New Boston lacks coverage, even though that's a really nice place otherwise. (At least it did last summer...)

      And yes - I'm one of those lousy tourists pestering NH sometimes... Visiting from Sweden.

      As for vanity plates - that's the headache of the owner if he's willing to pay for it. And from what I have found out the people in NH has a certain attitude that makes them willing to make a statement - like using vanity plates. Maybe the "Free" in the slogan is taken much as freedom of speech.

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    9. Re:Exactly how many are there...? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 4, Informative

      Plates with "H8" in them referred to as "hate plates" have been banned in the state, there was a big to-do about it a number of years ago when they started revoking plates with that in them.

      FWIW I live in NH and all of my cars have vanity plates. Though only one of them is nerdy.

  4. Re:Very cool... by kevinl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is a PERL-TK New Hampshire plate cruising about as well. That one registers especially high on the geek scale.

  5. Re:Very cool... by i.of.the.storm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a friend whose last name starts with P. His parents gave him and his brother the initials TCP and IP.

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  6. I've seen that plate by evilned1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live near Spitbrook and I've seen that plate around the area for years. I've never known the story behind it though.

  7. BeOS on Quebec Plate by srussia · · Score: 4, Funny

    " Je me souviens."

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    1. Re:BeOS on Quebec Plate by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am soup?

    2. Re:BeOS on Quebec Plate by srussia · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pas de soupe pour vous!

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    3. Re:BeOS on Quebec Plate by Tolkien · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I remember."

    4. Re:BeOS on Quebec Plate by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pass the soup, poor voice?

  8. Re:Very cool... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about their sister Ulva Daphne?

  9. Re:Most don't understand the license plate motto by evilned1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh huh. I gather you aren't from these parts. Might I suggest you google Article 10 of the NH state constitution? Very interesting read and is occasionally brought to the attention of the Pols here.

  10. Re:Cool Plate -- Had Mine Sometime Before That by Paracelcus · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can never remember my license plate numbers, so I have UNIX and Linux bumper stickers right next to them.

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  11. UNIX ain't nothin' by Aphoxema · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My late father had "RS 232" as his license plate on his PT Cruiser. It's not as cool and hard-to-get as UNIX, I suppose, but considering recent popularity of UNIX derivatives in general it's certainly more obscure in the geek crowd.

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  12. Re:Most don't understand the license plate motto by virtualXTC · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those that are too lazy to look it up: Article 10

  13. NHLUG by cyberbill79 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I had the great opportunity many years ago to meet Maddog at a NHLUG meeting. Very awesome and knowledgeable man.
    Much respect.
    -cb

  14. It was Armando's plate by btempleton · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary made me do a double-take, and if you RTFA you will see the summary is wrong. The real plate isn't based on the fake plates. The fake plates were a copy of Armando's plate long ago, he made them himself. When Armando left New Hampshire, maddog apparently took over the plate.

    I have one of the fake plates from Usenix, when Armando had dec make them.

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  15. Re:Very cool... by dotgain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, I don't remember quite having the same connection with her.

  16. "Live Free or Die" by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't believe the latter is optional.

    1. Re:"Live Free or Die" by srussia · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Live Free XNOR Die" then.

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    2. Re:"Live Free or Die" by seeker6182000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It may not be, and that is the whole point. Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils. -- Gen John Stark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Free_or_Die

  17. 20 years? by Weedhopper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Man, I can't imagine living 20 years in one state.

  18. Re:Most don't understand the license plate motto by Mr680x0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    (or GNU/Linux if it wasn't too long to fit)

    The most you can have is 7 letters on NH plates.

  19. Re:Very cool... by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Funny

    All give, no take?

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  20. Re:Say it with me.... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Free as in beer or free as in speech?

    Hey, I've had HAL 9000 in Virginia for over 20 years. Nobody made a big deal over that one.

  21. What a wuss! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    MY license plate says: /dev/car

    Which makes me the device driver!

  22. Mød parent døwn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    And mani interesting furry animals

    Not funny. A møøse one bit my sister :(

  23. Re:Most don't understand the license plate motto by squarooticus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like more specifics, though I'm not going to be a tool asking you.

    In MA:

    (1) Gun laws are ridiculous. Not worst in the nation IMO, but certainly in the bottom five. You want that Kimber .45 that is fully parts-interchangeable with the Para 1911? Sorry; those aren't approved for sale here! You want to remove that front sight from your Bushmaster and replace it with an aftermarket gas block with a flip-up front sight? Sorry; you have a pinned muzzle brake, because for some reason threaded muzzles are too dangerous! Dumbasses.

    (2) Housing is way too expensive, mostly because of local zoning ordinances that restrict the density of housing. I'd love to live within a walk or a 10-15 minute T ride from where I work, for instance, but I'm not going to pay $500K for a 1400 square foot condo: it just ain't gonna happen. And there's no reason for it to be that way except for the artificial scarcity of housing within the Cambridge/Somerville/Boston/Arlington city limits.

    (3) Local government is openly corrupt. Virtually every politically-connected demographicâ"the unions, the politicians, cops, large corporations, and many of the rich local property ownersâ"colludes to transfer wealth from everyone else to themselves. Taxes don't primarily go toward public goods and common services. My total tax burden is roughly 50% than it would be were I living in NH, and yet the roads in MA (for instance) are absolute shite. I've already had to replace one $500 rim from striking a huge pothole at night this year. While it's perfectly rational that things would work this way under a democracy, there's no excuse for it when there's so much waste, fraud, and pork to remove from the budget.

    (4) 12% short term capital gains tax. OMFG. That alone cost me a huge amount of money over the past two years.

    That's just what I can think of off the top of my head.

    The downsides to NH from friends seem to be (a) the state-owned liquor stores have a generally poor selection, though they can order what you want; (b) getting zoning approval for houses outside of established neighborhoods is a PITA because they require you to upgrade the road if it isn't class V or better; (c) property taxes are generally higher than in MA. In return, they get a part-time legislature; generally more responsive local government; less local- and state-level corruption; less sprawl and more natural areas; better roads; and lower overall taxes.

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  24. Went to work early? by MrDelSarto · · Score: 5, Funny

    To beat a bunch of UNIX engineers? I guess he got in at about 10.30am

  25. Re:staple? by ciderVisor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think that author understands the meaning of staple.

    Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler...

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  26. Re:Very cool... by Nethead · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unreliable.

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  27. Oh the memories by Macka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This brings back memories. I went to the Spit Brook site once for 3 weeks in the mid 90's to spend 3 weeks with the DEC MLS+ engineering team. At the time that was the B1/CMW (Compartmented Mode Workstation) high security variant of Digital Unix. There were no training courses, so I had to go learn it from the horses mouth, so to speak, so I could support it when I got back home. I remember Spit Brook well for 3 reasons:

    - Great atmosphere at the place. People were excited and enthusiastic about what they were doing. And I'd never seen such a collection of raw talent in one place before. Really bowled me over.

    - It was in the middle of the biggest pine forest I'd seen in my life. Walking out the hotel in the morning I would just stop or 5 minutes and breath it all in. Never experienced air like that before, or since.

    - I got invited to a cook out (had never heard that expression before) and while there I got attacked by this mahoosive black fly. I thought I'd managed to avoid getting bitten, but when I got back to the UK I discovered several strange looking bites. A red spot surrounded by a large white circle and a red ring around that. Only time in my life I've ever seen a UK doctor routing through a text book to work out what I had. He eventually diagnosed it as Lyme Disease. Apparently the fly picks it up from feeding on deer. We don't get it in the UK. A course of antibiotics shifted it.

    Oh, and there was a 4th reason: Diane Lebel. I should never have left, or turned around and gone straight back. Enough said ;-)

    1. Re:Oh the memories by borizz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nice story, but you don't have Lyme in the UK? It's in the Netherlands, you can get it from ticks.

  28. Re:wtf by Bryan+K.+Feir · · Score: 2, Informative

    Pretty simple if you know the history.

    AT&T was a government-regulated monopoly. As part of the understanding under which the U.S. Government gave it that monopoly, AT&T was not allowed to use the base granted by their monopoly to expand into other fields.

    Bell Labs was AT&T's R&D division. A lot of what they did went into AT&T's products, as you might expect. However, because of the agreement with the government against expanding into other fields, anything that Bell Labs did which wasn't directly for AT&T's own equipment was generally given out to others to use. From which we get Unix, which was developed as an experiment in a portable operating system that could be ported to any machine for which you had a compiler. Also from which we got other things like the transistor.

    Bell Labs was one of those rare things that can happen when you give very smart people free rein, and it was an unfortunate casualty when the whole monopoly status of AT&T was changed.

  29. That explains Steve Ballmer's NH license plate by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    MICRO~1

  30. Another NH plate celbrated in Sweden by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    the one that says BORK

  31. Indiana UNIX plate by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is/Was owned by George Gobel of Purdue University. He had it since the early 80's, but I had heard that it had been stolen too many times, so he gave it up.

    George has the distinction of having the first website that was slashdotted, long before slashdot. He had a video on his website of the world's fastest lighting of a barbeque grill. He took it from stone cold to slagged down in a few seconds. His site was mentioned in a Dave Barry column, and the poor sparc than ran his workstation couldn't keep up. (He did win an ignoble prize for the barbeque lighting.)

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