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Ball And Chain To Force Children To Study

You haven't tried everything to get your kids to study until you've tried the Study Ball. The Study Ball is a 21-pound prison-style device that locks onto your child's leg and only unlocks after a predetermined amount of study time has passed. The homework manacles can't be locked for more than four hours, and come with a safety key. The product website states, "Quite often, students who are having problems concentrating tend to get up every ten minutes to watch TV, talk on the phone, take something out of the fridge, and a long list of other distractions. Were they to dedicate all this wasted time to studying, they would optimise their performance and have more free time available. Study Ball helps you study more and more efficiently." Stop Teasing Your Brother Pepper Spray coming soon.

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  1. Laughably Medieval by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Make the act of studying have a negative association with it in the child's mind. That way when they depend on themselves to learn things later in life, they'll be reminded of your horrible freedom inhibiting imprisonment technique.

    This should work exactly as well as physically abusing your child when he or she does something wrong. That way when they are faced with conflict later in life, they follow in your steps and resort to violence.

    Oh, by the way, 9.5 kg (21 pounds)!? What kid is that going to inhibit? I was walking up and down fields picking up rocks heavier than that by the time I was in grade school! If that stops your kid from moving, you've got other parenting problems to worry about ... or is this just about wearing a red letter 'A' around so everyone knows you should be studying right now?

    Were they to dedicate all this wasted time to studying, they would optimise their performance and have more free time available.

    Not always true. Read this article.

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    1. Re:Laughably Medieval by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Make the act of studying have a negative association with it in the child's mind. That way when they depend on themselves to learn things later in life, they'll be reminded of your horrible freedom inhibiting imprisonment technique.

      Actually, this is why I still resent my 3rd grade teacher, one of only two people in my life that I still hold some sort of grudge against. Not only did she practice collective punishment for the actions of a single student, but her favored form of punishment was extra homework, and she didn't assign homework on the weekends because she didn't want to "ruin" our weekends.

      It was the first time in my childhood that I was introduced to the idea that homework wasn't fun. What a great life lesson, huh? I wonder what kinds of things I might have accomplished later in life if I hadn't had the joy of studying drained out of me at that age.

    2. Re:Laughably Medieval by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Make the act of studying have a negative association with it in the child's mind. That way when they depend on themselves to learn things later in life, they'll be reminded of your horrible freedom inhibiting imprisonment technique.

      This should work exactly as well as physically abusing your child when he or she does something wrong. That way when they are faced with conflict later in life, they follow in your steps and resort to violence.

      Utter BS. I was physically punished when I did not do well in school by my mother in the beginning until I became an A student. Later in life I graduated college Magna cum laude and did my Ph.D.

      The older I get the more thankful I get to my mother for those lessons.

      You can claim other negative effects of corporal punishment later in life, but that particular effect you wrote about is complete nonsense.

      Ah, the magna cum laude doctor cites an anecdote of their own personal experience and considers my point rendered complete nonsense. I bow to your supreme intelligence, my lord.

      So I assume you beat your child when he or she does poorly at school?

      Nowhere did I say that corporal punishment leads to violence 100% of the time or that it has no positive effects. You could be a straight A student and still physically attack your opponents. Not that child psychology is a solid science but I think studies support my argument (there's more than just that).

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    3. Re:Laughably Medieval by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've never met a person who was a PHD, or who had straight A's that didn't have a personality disorder of some kind. Something has to be wrong with anyone who would be willing to put up with that much bs for that many years for almost no reason at all. It says something about your priorities.

    4. Re:Laughably Medieval by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In this debate people always assume corporal punishment means beating the daylight out of your kids.

      I`m also in the same boat as mapkinase. If I didn't do homework (my parents never demanded I get straight A's .. but I had to at least be putting in reasonable effort) I'd get punished. As it turned out, this method worked very effectively.. and I did very well in school.. and now have a great job/life.

      And despite what various extremist think-of-the-children types will say.. I`m not some seething bottle of rage who has flashbacks of getting yelled at and attacks people at random as a result.

      The problem is that people try to think of kids as little adults when they are in fact just kids. You can't always reason with a kid.. because they don't have the same ability to weigh options that adults do (I know when I was a kid I sure didn't). A little negative re-enforcement (do something wrong.. get punished) is sometimes the best way.

      And I truly believe that kids today have more problems as a result of being treated as fragile ornaments who will be screwed up for the rest of their life if you even look at them in a menacing way.

    5. Re:Laughably Medieval by Fallingcow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So? I've never met a person who didn't have a personality disorder of some sort.

      It's so true. A big part of getting to know someone isn't figuring out whether they're fucked up in the head, but how.

      That goes double for getting to know yourself.

    6. Re:Laughably Medieval by amilo100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only did she practice collective punishment for the actions of a single student,
      Collective punishment is a bad thing. But in a large way teachers are forced to do this because they are backed into a corner. There is simply no way to punish a problem child â" the best thing you can do is to phone their parents. But the sad fact is that the parents did not raise the child with discipline and that is why it is the teachers' problem.
      Some teachers try to do the collective punishment so that the other kids resent the guilty kid. This is extremely bad and it can completely alienate an already problemed child.
      In my experience children usually form strong relationships with a strict but fair teacher. They quickly see a strict teacher as a father figure. Maybe this is just in my country where most people often grow up without a father figure.

      I wonder what kinds of things I might have accomplished later in life if I hadn't had the joy of studying drained out of me at that age.

      The right way is to have negative reinforcement at the very bottom and positive reinforcement above that. It is sad when I see people who screwed up their life and limited their opportunities just because they couldn't be bothered to do their homework.

    7. Re:Laughably Medieval by JCSoRocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I absolutely agree. I've spent years working with middle school and high school aged kids. Without a doubt, the kids with parents that don't believe in punishing them have zero self discipline. I honestly feel sorry for them. At times they know they're not making the right choice but they just don't have the discipline to do what they know they should.

      People that pamper their children are doing them a disservice. Don't get me wrong - You should absolutely love and care for your kids, but part of that is teaching them some self control.

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    8. Re:Laughably Medieval by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In my experience children usually form strong relationships with a strict but fair teacher.

      I think I've heard of that - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

    9. Re:Laughably Medieval by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Branding all corporal punishment as "abuse" is totally moronic. The ills our society suffers today are due more to permissiveness and lack of responsibility than any imagined affects of "abuse". There are any number of individuals in history who suffered genuine abuse, who went on to become famous. Does Alexander Graham ring any bells?

      The individual who can use corporal punishment as an effective teaching tool is far superior to either the child abuser, OR the child "protector". Both the abuser and the overly protective idiot harm the child.

      The magna cum laude you mock has most definitely put things into perspective, and found that a swat on the ass now and then is beneficial for irresponsible children. Prove him wrong, if you can.

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    10. Re:Laughably Medieval by Gary+Perkins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can add a little personal reference of my own. I'm one of those who didn't get much punishment for not doing homework. I can vaguely remember being a toddler, and if I did something REALLY bad, getting a spanking. However, past the toddler years, I can't really remember getting a corporal punishment for anything worse than breaking something really expensive. My mother gave the school permission to issue corporal punishment. In elementary school, I got one slap of the paddle for each "0" earned. I think the most I got in one week was three. I probably averaged about one a week for the first couple of years. I think I wore pants and two layers of underwear to school for the first few grades rather than consistantly do my work. I got away with this because my mother let the school discipline me rather than put forth the effort herself. She tried the reasoning thing, took some toys away, punished me to my room, etc. I did learn to read early and read well, and to this day enjoy a good book more than anything. However, I still have a hard time committing to anything for a long period of time. I did very well in school on tests. I had a knack for paying attention in class without doing the work, and scoring excellent grades on the tests. However, this caught up with me in high school when I was suddenly faced with the challenge of "projects" that were a significant part of the semester grade. I went from a Honors student to summer school in one year because I procrastinated and didn't complete the Project assignments. I scored 100 each year in summer school English. I practically had the entire class trying to read my work; it was funny, the answers would usually be underlined in bold. I could tell them the page number and they still wouldn't get it. I wound up dropping out of high school rather than deal with my issue. My mother still was no help. At the time I told myself it was because I was a geek/nerd and couldn't tolerate the overcrowding and picking I was starting to receive (I was raised never to fight, never to argue, etc, etc; I took everything they gave me and walked away. Now I wish I'd earned a little respect). In hindsight I walked away from my problems. My mother actually let me make that decision with very little argument. She wasn't much help when it came to college either. I didn't understand the forms, and the few friends I had who went on to college left town. She couldn't be bothered to sit down with me for anything. So my point is, I can testify that parents who treat their kids as though they can reason for themselves, and trust the school to deal with any educational problems, are setting their kids up for failure. The school isn't equipped to deal with kids individually; they expect the parents to be doing their part.

    11. Re:Laughably Medieval by YourExperiment · · Score: 2, Insightful

      tl;dr

  2. ADD/ADHD by bradgoodman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    As a [former] child with ADD, and the parent of a child with ADD, I can say without doubt, that this device will do nothing to force someone of the sort to focus and study.

    And it is quite apparent by the nature of the device, that it was either designed to - or would strongly appeal to be used in such cases.

    1. Re:ADD/ADHD by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As someone who has followed the career of the Yes Men, I sense a merry blend of social satire and commentary in this product announcement.

  3. What?! by symes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Surely making the subject fun, interesting would be a better way of encouraging students? I guess if you're a parent who can't be bothered and a teacher that can't teach then, sure, get the stocks out... but really. This must be a joke.

  4. Rantenki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Good thing we don't have housefires anymore. One of those things would be really problematic if the kid needed to get out of the house in a hurry.

  5. fun, fun fun by jd142 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shoot, I'll pick up a couple just for weekend fun in my dungeon.

  6. Re:C'mon Fess up. by Malenx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most parenting techniques these days are stupid. It's about spineless parents who can't say no to a child.

    My Dad used to spank me with a belt if I acted up too much. But situations like studying, I'd just start losing all privileges until I was bored out of my mind. Give that a few months and you'll study just to be entertained.

    When he did spank us, he'd send us to our rooms until he could calm down and think about it. Usually 1/2 hourish later he'd have us come in and talk about what we'd done. Then he'd have us pick a belt. His belts were arranged by thickness and hardness. If you picked too pansy of a belt then he'd make you get this thick huge rhine-stone covered cowboy belt that hurt like crazy. If you picked a heavier belt, you'd usually get off with less punishment.

    Man, I didn't realize my dad was doing psychological warfare until I was twenty.

    Oddly enough, I think he did the best he could, and the fact that he's never hit us while angry or unfairly made me really respect that form of punishment.

    It wouldn't work for every kid, and I hope I'll never need any kind of punishment for my future kids like that, but for me it was probably the only punishment they could do. (ADD incarnate)

  7. Re:Whats with parents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV? Sitting down with your children? And hitting them?

    No. Nope. Why, yes!

  8. Re:The House is on Fire!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1 hours later...
    Fireman: WTF do you mean your child was wearing clothing?!
    Retarded Parent: It was to help them keep warm, and it was easily heavy enough for them to lift.
    Fireman: But it got caught under the table because of the panic and now your child is a crispy critter.
    Policeman: Sir, please put your hands behind your back.

    You can contrive a situation to prove any point. Bullshit that never happened doesn't make your argument valid.

  9. Re:C'mon Fess up. by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Locks on the outside of bedrooms are warranted sometimes.
    If it's absoloutely essential to lock someone in for thier own or other peoples safety I'd preffer a simple bolt that can be undone without looking for a key. Or better still an electromagnet that automatically releases when the fire alarm goes off (and can also be manually released in a fail-safe manner)

    My parents locked my sister in at night when she was little since she would get up in the middle of the night and bake.
    A lockout on the cooker would seem a much safer way of getting arround that problem.

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  10. More... by kklein · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You raise the critical point there: "spanking" vs. "beating." As I've written on these very pages before, a spanking--which is what I occasionally got--is primarily a correction ritual. The pain is instantaneous and fades in a few minutes. It lets you know Mom and Dad are serious about this one.

    The effectiveness is completely destroyed if it's employed all the time. It becomes normal, and fosters resentment of the parents. And I'm not even going to comment on actual beatings, which I remember friends in grade school talking about--things that leave marks, slaps on the face or head, hitting with implements... Sorry, that is child abuse, and yes, those kids all grew up to be fucked up.

    It's all about the kind of world model you give your kids. Being rational and consistent with the discipline of your kids, leaving some kind of physical punishment only for the worst or most dangerous infractions, sets up a world model that is very close to that of the adult world--there are a lot of negative consequences that you don't want for behaving incorrectly, and if you behave really incorrectly, you will really, really regret it.

    The world model set up by parents who fly off the handle and beat children, out of anger, and as a normal course of events is this: You are at the mercy of capricious and unjust forces who will smite you whenever they feel like it. This either makes kids pull into themselves and try to avoid doing anything that might result in a beating, or it makes them say "fuck it" and do whatever occurs to them because it won't alter the consequences one bit. The latter is especially difficult when they get into the real world where punishments are ramped. Getting a drunk driving ticket sucks, yeah, but it's better than getting beaten, and who cares anyway. The lower-level punishments, which seem really bad and dire to someone who has a correct world model in their head, mean nothing to someone who is used to being hit all the time.

    This is, I think, the problem with any of these discussions. What is the operational definition of corporal punishment? Just like the parent, I barely even remember being spanked, but things my parents have said have had a much, much worse impact on me that the silly little spankings ever did.