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Mars Robot May Destroy Life It Was Sent To Find

Hugh Pickens writes "New Scientist reports that instead of identifying chemicals that could point to life, NASA's robot explorers may have been toasting them by mistake. Even if Mars never had life, comets and asteroids that have struck the planet should have scattered at least some organic molecules over its surface but landers have failed to detect even minute quantities of organic compounds. Now scientists say they may have stumbled on something in the Martian soil that may have, in effect, been hiding the organics: a class of chemicals called perchlorates. At low temperatures, perchlorates are relatively harmless but when heated to hundreds of degrees Celsius perchlorates release a lot of oxygen, which tends to cause any nearby combustible material to burn. The Phoenix and Viking landers looked for organic molecules by heating soil samples to similarly high temperatures to evaporate them and analyse them in gas form. When Douglas Ming of NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, and colleagues tried heating organics and perchlorates like this on Earth, the resulting combustion left no trace of organics behind. "We haven't looked the right way," says Chris McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center. Jeffrey Bada of the University of California, San Diego, agrees that a new approach is needed. He is leading work on a new instrument called Urey which will be able to detect organic material at concentrations as low as a few parts per trillion. The good news is that, although Urey heats its samples, it does so in water, so the organics cannot burn up."

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  1. We can't let them kill the Mars life by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suggest we send someone back in time to prevent the robot from killing the life on Mars.

    1. Re:We can't let them kill the Mars life by robably · · Score: 4, Funny

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    2. Re:We can't let them kill the Mars life by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

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  2. So it makes soup? by Onyma · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mmm... organics boiled in water. Now I know what I'm having for lunch.

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  3. In other words, HG Wells had it backwards by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, instead of the Martians coming here, blowing stuff up and then catching a cold and dying out, we go there, give them heat and wipe them out first? I suppose the best defense really is a good offense!

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  4. Simple explanation.. by gbutler69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Organic "compounds" can be created (and often are) through other processes other than life. So, even if there were NO life on Mars, there should be some organic compounds. The fact that they are not finding any, combined with the finding of perchlorates (i.e. used for rocket fuel, explosives, etc) shows that there is something wrong with their experimental set-up.

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    1. Re:Simple explanation.. by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 3, Informative

      The only problem with that is that it's not a very rare process. Seems like every other week some scientist has looked somewhere odd you'd never suspect and has found organic chemistry happening there. All life (as we know it, Jim ;)) is organic chemistry, but not all organic chemistry is life.

  5. Apropos alien life by rkaa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For the benefit of new readers and the general perspective; an old short-story by Terry Bisson: http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/96q1/meat.html
    It's a "must read" if you haven't, just give in and click the link.

  6. Misleading headline by noidentity · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mars Robot May Destroy Life It Was Sent To Find

    implies that it destroyed all life on the planet (the "life it was sent to find"). Instead, it sounds like its life detector merely destroys signs of life in the samples it's testing.

  7. Re:What by thirty-seven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why would we expect comets or asteroids to carry organics? Haven't they been around much longer than life?

    • A) Because we know that comets, asteroids, and other interstellar objects and dust do contain organic chemicals: see astrochemistry
    • B) Because organic chemicals have also been around much longer than life has. You may be interested to know that vitalism has been discredited by the synthesis of urea.
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  8. Martian bonfires anyone ? by mbone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The title is very misleading.

    No-one thought that heating samples to 400 or 600 C would be good for any bacteria. The point is that they thought samples would outgas any organics. Now it seems they might be burned in the process. But in neither case were these tests designed to keep microbes alive.

    Note that one implication here is that Martian soil will burn even under Martian conditions if you heat it properly - it has its own oxygen supply.

    Martian bonfires anyone ?

  9. Re:I am Lrrr by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your cup of spunk is in the mail.

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