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Cocaine Test Prompts Red Bull Removal In Germany

viyh writes to mention that six German states have mandated pulling Red Bull Cola energy drinks off the shelves after testing found trace amounts of cocaine in the drink. "Germany's Federal Institute for Risk Assessment said Monday that the cocaine level was too low to pose a health risk. It planned to produce a more detailed report Wednesday. Red Bull said its cola is 'harmless and marketable in both the US and Europe.' It said similar coca leaf extracts are used worldwide as flavoring, and a test it commissioned itself found no cocaine traces."

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  1. Bottoms Up. by Ostracus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Coca Cola with real Coca.

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    1. Re:Bottoms Up. by dargaud · · Score: 3, Informative

      Get the real stuff instead: Inca Cola !

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    2. Re:Bottoms Up. by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually Coca-Cola does still contain real coca leaf flavouring. It has the cocaine extracted by Stepan Company before the leaves are passed on to Coca-Cola.

      I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the process is less than 100% effective, either. When you're looking at amounts on the order of 10^-9 grams per litre, it's quite possible that any cola with real coca leaves in (don't know how common they are) has always contained traces and nobody's noticed or cared.

    3. Re:Bottoms Up. by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Informative

      >Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed.

      What's strange about that is that for about 20 years afterward you could simply go to the drugstore and buy ounces of cocaine.
      It was one of the few drugs available that had any effective use at all. Coca drugs and Sulfa drugs, and then all the opiate-alcohol cure-all mixtures.

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  2. Re:Coca-Cola next ? by Manip · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to this page at one point Coca Cola did indeed contain trace amounts but that is no longer the case and hasn't been the case since 1929

    http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp

  3. Re:So _that's_ how it works... by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Informative

    No. That concentration is far too high to qualify as homeopathic. For that you have to get it down to less than one molecule per liter.

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  4. It's everywhere by dword · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently read on /. that they found traces of cocaine in Madrid if I'm not mistaking. It was later revealed that cocaine is found almost everywhere, because there's always a very very small amount in the air.

  5. Re:In other news... by xianthax · · Score: 5, Informative

    67% of dollar bills in this study, and thats south shore mass, i would expect manhattan to step that number up a bit.

    http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080411/NEWS/804110348

  6. Than American money should be banned too. by TavisJohn · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is more Cocaine on a US dollar than in 1 ltr of RedBull!

    This is just plain stupidity! I mean there are FDA rules on how many rat hairs are allowed in a chocolate bar... (And no it is not none)

    You will get higher off of the caffeine than the cocaine!

  7. Re:Coca-Cola next ? by moon3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Coca-Cola buys (though subsidiary) about 100 metric tons of dried Peruvian coca leaves each year, according to Marco Castillo, spokesman for Peru's state-owned National Coca Co.

    (source Wikipedia)

    And it uses it in Coca-Cola, that of course doesn't mean that Coca-Cola contains cocain, just a Coca extract.

  8. Re:The War on (some) Drugs by andr386 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You might drink far more than 11 liters. People who have psychogenic poydipsia often drink more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogenic_polydipsia They feel the urge to fill themselves with water. But after a certain treshold, the water will eventually deplete you sodium serum, and your nerves won't be able to work anymore, ... then you die.

  9. Re:Oh yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Novocaine is similar to cocaine and dentists used to use cocaine as an anesthetic. Neither are narcotics though. Narcotics are only opiates and opioids, despite what the TV says.

    I would imagine the poster above you was correct in saying he never used cocaine.

  10. Re:Cool story bro by DirtyCanuck · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am gonna openly admit, that once upon a time I have done cocaine. So this is purely from personal experience.

    But any night we would do coke we would buy a case of Red Bull and start chugging them early. When we would actually get to the snorting business it seemed to level out the heart rate as it was already up from the Red Bull. So in other words it would stop that sudden RAPID increase in the heart. Seems to level out the buzz a bit as well, less HIGHS then LOWS.

    Cocaine is only as evil as you let it become.

  11. Re:The War on (some) Drugs by droopycom · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is typically the problems that Wolfram|Alpha is supposed to solve...

    Unfortunately, they dont seem to have a price for Cocaine... they do have a bunch of numbers for Red Bull though...

  12. Re:Guess what? Coke too (now) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


    I know that the attempted move was to schedule I. If it was at schedule IV in the 1980's, or schedule II as the other poster states prior to the attempt to move it to schedule I, either way, I do remember that dentists were using it as an anesthetic back then as well (a big newspaper stink was made about actors using specific dentists (other docs?) because the dentists used it as an anesthetic even in the face of the DEA's war on medical professionals for coca and narcotics at the time, with the DEA war continuing on medical professionals and patients over pain narcotics now), so the other poster may be correct as to the schedule II instead of IV prior to the attempt to move to schedule I.

    As for the NYT article about Coca Cola, Coke, and coca leaf extract and cocaine, it's here, but my browser isn't showing any picture of the plant as the article suggests. I do recall seeing the original article in print, with the processing plant either illustrated or actually pictured as part of a building along with barbed wire/fence surrounding it.

    So, for the bots, while Coca Cola (Coke, or Classic Coke, not New Coke) still contains coca leaf extract (without the cocaine) for flavoring in its secret formula (and maybe a little beverage addiction thrown in to boost sales), new coke apparently doesn't contain any coca leaf extract, as that would have prevented any move of cocaine/coca to schedule I and still keep Coca Cola (Coke) beverage/soft drink legal. Nor would New Coke contain cocaine. The old original Coca Cola did contain real coca leaf extract including the cocaine part originally and for years after, as evidenced by their own advertising and public formula listing (as well as probable government and/or private laboratory testing/confirmation.

  13. Re:The War on (some) Drugs by fractoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Annoyingly, this is often implicated in MDMA deaths. In fact I don't think I've read a highly publicised case of "ecstasy death" that didn't resolve to either hyperhydration or the pill actually containing something completely fucking different (the most recent one in Australia was a girl who bought a pill that she thought was MDMA and turned out to be a combination of GBH and Ketamine... and yet it was widely reported as "teen ecstasy death").

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  14. Re:Why is it in there to begin with by afidel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh, I'm sure they found it with their brand spanking new GCMS that can accurately detect substances in the parts per trillion, you have to find something to justify that big cash outlay even if it's in such small quantities that it would never affect the biology of any human.

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  15. Re:No RedBull for the French either by voop · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was surprised, while living in France last year, that RedBull is illegal. I was even more surprised when they told me you can buy Poppers at clothing shops like nothing happens. Any Frenchie care to comment on it??

    You asked for it, there you have it. I am not a Frenchie and can't speak for the availability of poppers -- but Red Bull *was* illegal due to its taurin content. The French equivalent of the FDA didn't think that it was possible to determine, based on available studies, if the product was safe, and was citing at the time (if I recall correctly) something about detected hyperactivity in animals who'd consumed high doses of taurine. In April 2008, in a neutered version (arginine instead of taurine and much less caffeine...) was approved for sale in France.

    In, I think, later 2008, the unneutered Red Bull entered the French market: this time it was the EU that forced the French to accept it. A product sold in one EU country can legally be imported and sold in an EU country (or something to that effect), and Red Bull was/is sold in many (but not all) EU countries.

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  16. Re:The War on (some) Drugs by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Informative

    "would die of excess water consumption (anything is a poison given a high enough dose)"

    Thanks for clearing that up. Drowning is actually "water poisoning". Roger.

    No, drowning is inhalation of water/liquid and subsequent asphyxiation.

    Water poisoning/Water intoxication is a completely different animal (remember the woman who died from it a few years ago trying to win a Wii?)

  17. Re:Article not about Regular RedBull by gregthebunny · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many don't seem to realize their talking about the newer REDBULL COLA they put onto the market. I have to say, it's one of the best I've tried, the ingredients read like a simple list of herbs, and the taste is pretty interesting/complex. Hope they don't ban them here, they are hardly the same strength in terms of stimulant property as the regular redbull(the cola being weaker).

    Agreed. Those who claim it "tastes like shit" are entitled to their own opinions, however wrong they may be.

    viyh writes to mention that six German states have mandated pulling Red Bull Cola energy drinks off the shelves after testing found trace amounts of cocaine in the drink.

    RedBull Simply Cola is also NOT an "energy drink" as the description says. It's Simply a Cola.