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Data Breach Exposes RAF Staff To Blackmail

Yehuda writes "Wired reports, 'Yet another breach of sensitive, unencrypted data is making news in the United Kingdom. This time the breach puts Royal Air Force staff at serious risk of being targeted for blackmail by foreign intelligence services or others. The breach involves audio recordings with high-ranking air force officers who were being interviewed in-depth for a security clearance. In the interviews, the officers disclosed information about extra-marital affairs, drug abuse, visits to prostitutes, medical conditions, criminal convictions and debt histories — information the military needed to determine their security risk. The recordings were stored on three unencrypted hard drives that disappeared last year.'"

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  1. It's no wonder... by viyh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All the money that their government has goes to buying moats and other fun things for the MPs.

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    1. Re:It's no wonder... by sa1lnr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bad as it is, the amount pales into insignificance when compared to what we have given banks.

      I bet there are a lot of bankers breathing sighs of relief that the focus of the public's ire has switched away from them.

    2. Re:It's no wonder... by noundi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh my god the UK recorded something and it leaked! Who could have ever imagined this possible outcome!?

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    3. Re:It's no wonder... by TheP4st · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suppose the difference is that we expect bankers to be lieing, theiving cheats but our politicians are at least supposed to have some regard for decent behaviour.

      Yes the politicians are supposed to have decent behaviour but, I for one have yet to meet a single person that expect them to.

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    4. Re:It's no wonder... by x2A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The moat thing was a few grand! And this is a "scandal", is the word thrown about... compare that to other "scandals", such as stuff with stanford, madoff, aig, enron, to name a few off the top of my head... major collapses, hundreds if not thousands of people losing their jobs and/or life savings, and what do we have going on here? "A couple grand to clean my moat please!" *lol* I've never been so proud to be British.

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    5. Re:It's no wonder... by x2A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The focus of the news has certainly switched, and so the focus of the people who are just angry at whatever they're told to be angry about by what's in the news that day has switched...

      But at least we're not all dying of swine flu now.

      I wonder what's going to destroy society next week. One thing's certain - it's either going to be really really scary, or it's gonna make us really really angry! Maybe if we're really lucky, both!

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    6. Re:It's no wonder... by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not the size of the consequences that matter to people, it's the perceived motive of self-interest. I learned this by living through Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal vs. Clinton's Monica Lewinski scandal. One got off, the other got impeached, and it had nothing to do with the actual consequences.

  2. Tell me... by orngjce223 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why didn't they just encrypt the disks? If it's supposed to be sensitive information, store it securely!

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    1. Re:Tell me... by canipeal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      why didn't they just encrypt the disks? If it's supposed to be sensitive information, store it securely!

      Because that would require common sense and competence.

    2. Re:Tell me... by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Requires competence. Most non-techies aren't aware that you can encrypt disk drives. They're also not aware that the Windows Password does nothing to protect the data if the device is physically stolen. Lack of common sense isn't really a fair criticism. Lack of competence certainly is.

  3. Re:Since the RAF already knows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    um, just because your boss knows something embarrassing, it doesn't mean your wife, family, whole world needs to know.

    On the other hand, if your boss has special forces, it could work to your advantage...

    Idiot: "Sir, you know that midget fetish I spoke about during the security interview?"

    Chief Idiot: "Yes? I really quite enjoyed that bit. Quite naughty!"

    Idiot: "Well, there are some chaps who think they can hold it over me, for a few quid, per week... not tell the missus, and all."

    Chief Idiot: "Oh, well, that's not right, I'll send some SAS over there ASAP and they won't be a problem anymore."

  4. Re:Since the RAF already knows... by compro01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like a convenient way to legally fire or reassign someone.

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  5. Mr. Bean, Ministry of Defence Internet Security by leftie · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Ummm..."

    1. Re:Mr. Bean, Ministry of Defence Internet Security by legallyillegal · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess this is what happens when you put a teddy bear in charge of implementing security protocols.

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    2. Re:Mr. Bean, Ministry of Defence Internet Security by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess this is what happens when you put a teddy bear in charge of implementing security protocols.

      I dunno, I thought the "Do *not* leave at the pub" stickers on the drives were a brilliant idea.
      Well, back to the drawing board.

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  6. I feel MUCH safer now! by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These are the same idiots who are putting surveillance cameras everywhere, fingerprinting and taking DNA samples from musicians who are simply visiting the UK to play in a few clubs (then denying them entrance because the clubs hadn't paid a fee and agreed to report on them), and generally acting like fascists.

    They're great at grabbing reams of private information they would have no right to if Britain were still a free society. Protecting it from unauthorized access? Not so much.

    Goddamn wankers!

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    1. Re:I feel MUCH safer now! by BlackSabbath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. I find it ironic that a nation that increasingly acts as if every citizen were a potential enemy of the state, is so free with information that could aid real enemies of the state.

      I do so wish George Orwell were alive to see the UK now.

    2. Re:I feel MUCH safer now! by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He didn't need to. He was writing about the UK 60 years ago.

      Now he'd just kill himself.

  7. Damned if you do... by syousef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the officers disclosed information about extra-marital affairs, drug abuse, visits to prostitutes, medical conditions, criminal convictions and debt histories -- information the military needed to determine their security risk

    If yes to any of the above do you want these as officers? Even the extra-marital affairs in most circumstances provide proof that the person is capable of disloyalty.

    The real problem is if they have done any of this and don't admit to it, they're disloyal, liars that shouldn't be given clearance. If they do admit it, they're too stupid to be in a position of authority. The only way time you want to ask these questions is if you know the answer in advance and the answer is "squeaky clean".

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    1. Re:Damned if you do... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How sick would a person have to be to be incapable of disloyalty?

    2. Re:Damned if you do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they rule out every officer who's ever cheated on their wife, screwed a hooker or gotten stoned... there'd be no candidates left :-P Hell, two out of those three are pretty much standard issue for the military.

      Plus, remember that most of these guys got to where they were on qualifications (save a few from nepotism). Can this person lead soldiers (well, pilots, but the point stands), can they give orders, obey orders, and maintain their calm under adverse conditions? If they can, they're qualified (and sorely needed). If they also happen to be an unfaithful indebted crazy coke-headed john, oh well.

    3. Re:Damned if you do... by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Interesting


      A lot of the people hiring will have indulged in all these behaviours and wont condemn someone for them. Rather it will make them part of the club. Use of prostitutes in the armed forces? Goodness - that could never happen! With some groups, the person who never touched drugs, doesn't pick up prostitutes is the one that makes everyone else uncomfortable. In Bosnia, the private military firm DynCorp was actually buying girls as forced prostitutes (and I do mean girls - some were fifteen. And this were US soldiers). Related, its one of the reasons women face a 'glass ceiling' in some areas, such as the upper military, high finance, etc. It's because the wealthy / powerful men who are accustomed to doing as they please feel uncomfortable saying: "hey lets all do some lines and pick up some hookers" when someone from "the other side" is amongst them.

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    4. Re:Damned if you do... by LaskoVortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If yes to any of the above do you want these as officers?

      If you threw out everyone who has ever done that one "immoral" thing, you'd have no one left. Everyone makes mistakes. Its even in the bible somewhere--a story about throwing stones (disclaimer: never read the bible). These are officers of a military. They are trained to kill people. Measure the morality of their actions against that fact and you'll find that indulging in something like and extramarital affair is minor by comparison. My only surprise is here is the lack of encryption.

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    5. Re:Damned if you do... by LaskoVortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How sick would a person have to be to be incapable of disloyalty?

      This is a good question. This is also known as asking the wrong question. Please turn in your security credentials now and report to the Division of Thought Alignment for an adjustment.

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    6. Re:Damned if you do... by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2


      I'd better correct myself before someone else does. I referred to the employees of DynCorp as "US soldiers". Whilst there are plenty of incidents of misbehaviour on the part of any nation's soldiers (it's that odd double standard that is expected of people who are paid to kill, but not to beat people up or hurt women), the employees of DynCorp were not soldiers but service personnel, e.g. mechanics on helicopters (bad ones, apparently). Unfortunately they were still protected by the US government's refusal to allow the Bosnian government to prosecute US military forces (so they are de facto, US military) for breaches of Bosnia law while over there, and secondly, by the US governments own refusal to prosecute these people for rape, sex slave trafficking, etc. A very shameful situation.

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    7. Re:Damned if you do... by rich_r · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think you'll find that the DV (developed vetting) process doesn't expect people to be angels. And that is how it should be. It expects the applicant to be honest with the people who need to know and allows them to build a bigger picture of anyrisk you may pose.

      An affair doesn't make an officer inherently disloyal to everyone, that's far to simplistic a view to take. If there's a pattern of behaviour, then that is a different matter. Same with finances. If your forever dipping into an overdraft or are mortgaged up the wazoo, then you pose a different risk to someone who's had bad credit in the past but is now exemplary.

      The problem is that this system relies on people being able to hand over this information in confidence. If people realise that this is no longer secure, then that vetting scheme is fundamentally broken.

  8. An information society by jasonmanley · · Score: 4, Funny

    It seems to me that many organisations would consider payroll, health and other HR info as private and hence restrict access to it on the network, but they wouldn't consider encrypting it with a passowrd - well at least nowhere where I have worked.
    And perhaps military institutions consider attack plans, weapons secrets and such as worthy of protection but not an "inteview" that we did "ourselves", "inhouse".
    We are learning more and more that this is a connected world - yes even your fridge will have an IP address and be on the net one day mark my words and EVERYTHING will need to be encrypted. Encryption grammar and other security verbiage will be second hand speak for moms and kids ...
    "have you packed your lunch"
    "Yes mom"
    "And MD5 SSL'd your homework via the kerebos LDAP certificate server? You know what happened last time when Mr Jones found your SSH key unencoded on the SELinux partition - I don't want to go through that again"
    "Arghh yes mom I have been over this 1000 times with you let it go - my friends and I were scanning photons of the prom dance when James accidentally Bluetoothed a letter from his brother in the army to Amy's communication jewellery which had a compaible 3DES encrytpion algorithm - now will you let it go!? Shees!"
    "I'm just saying is all - I have to go and buy some groceries and when I scan my embedded subcutaneous barcode it better not say that I have been SQL Injected because of a bad CRC checksum - I won't be embarrassed like I was the last time"

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  9. Re:Since the RAF already knows... by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just because their bosses already know doesn't mean their wives did.

  10. please explain by Swampash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Someone wanna explain to me how drug-using hooker-banging ex-cons are OFFICERS IN THE ROYAL AIR FORCE?

    1. Re:please explain by bloobloo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Drug using: As long as it isn't in the last year, it isn't an instant fail

      Hooker-banging: Not a crime

      Ex-cons: In the UK, the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act means that after a certain period of time a conviction can be considered "spent"

    2. Re:please explain by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a limit. I.e., if you're the sort of person best described as a "drug-using hooker-banging ex-con" and that's it, you're not getting in. But if you're basically an upstanding citizen who in your younger days smoked a joint or two, visited a prostitute once or twice, or got caught shoplifting some low-value item, it would be stupid for the service to reject you on that basis alone. (Actually, as far as the prostitution bit goes, fighter jocks and hookers go together like ducks and water.)

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    3. Re:please explain by daBass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why do so many folks expect the people we hire for our dirtiest jobs (like thermo-nuclear incineration of entire nations) to be do-no-harm nice guys?

      At best you are going to get people who act like the majority of the society they represent.

    4. Re:please explain by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're humans just like the rest of us?

      The list mentioned in the summary is probably from the topics/questions asked about. That doesn't mean that everyone of the subjects - or even just one of them - has an affirmative answer in all of them. I suspect the truth is rather boring, with one officer having done some drugs in his youth, a different one having an affair, a third one preferring professionals, several with completely clean sheets, someone with a conviction for some minor (but criminal) stuff done before he joined the force, etc.

      If you have to lay open your entire history - and background checks work like that - then it's very unlikely that you would find enough people with perfectly white shirts in the entire commonwealth to staff even one airforce base.

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  11. viral marketing??? by zetabrown · · Score: 5, Funny

    "extra-marital affairs, drug abuse, visits to prostitutes, medical conditions, criminal convictions and debt histories " - sounds like a viral marketing campaign for the RAF if you ask me - who knew that they had so much fun! I suppose the word 'raffish' had to come from somewhere.

  12. Looks like goverment works the same across the oce by klawre1221 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good to see the Brits have as bad a security as we do.

  13. UK Government loses all data on everyone by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Annual reports from Whitehall departments show that the government has lost all data it ever held on anyone.

    Losses have occurred through couriered unencrypted disks, misplaced memory sticks, lost laptops, briefcases left on trains and files falling down the side of the tea machine. "The real scandal is that a train was running for them to lose a case on," said a source whose name has been lost.

    Treasury minister Jane Kennedy said the HM Revenue and Customs breaches did not necessarily result in data losses, or at least any that they have records of. HMRC said it takes data losses and security breaches "very seriously" and thoroughly investigates any breach that it does not lose track of.

    Information Commissioner Richard Thomas has served enforcement notices on various departments for their data losses, but the departments in question could not find their office addresses to accept the notices. They noted, however, that Mr Thomas' call was very important to them, and that he had been placed in a queue.

    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith reassured citizens that plans for an all-encompassing ID card linked to biometric passports and a universal medical record with the NHS would not change because of these losses. "We won't even be thinking about them."

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  14. Re:Since the RAF already knows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually the whole point about these interviews is to screen out people who are susceptible to blackmail. If you had an extra-marital affair and your wife doesn't know, then you either tell your wife or you don't get security clearance.

  15. Open Government by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess the British government is now following the principle of "information wants to be free". :P

  16. When were we a free society? by fantomas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "They're great at grabbing reams of private information they would have no right to if Britain were still a free society."

    When were we ever a free society? When has any country been "free"? I suppose there's a philosophical discussion to be had here but I get the sense that

    • a: we might be as free now as we've ever been and
    • b: this is close to a conversation about a mythical golden age that never was (I like the definition that golden ages are invariably the belief that things were better two generations ago)...

    Interested to hear when you think the UK was a 'free' society. It would have to probably be after 1928 - universal suffrage, before then women under 28 couldn't vote so they weren't very free. Couldn't be 1939 - 1952 as we had identity cards then. Interested to hear your definition of 'free'.

    cheers.

    1. Re:When were we a free society? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We gained more and more freedoms over time. Looking back, we certainly enjoy more freedoms today than we did a hundred years ago, at least in Europe. Most of mainland Europe was ruled by autocratic kings and emperors who restricted the exchange of ideas and discussions, criticising the government was often close to high treason. We sure came a long road from this.

      When you look at it with a finer grained system, you'll notice, though, that liberties are in decline, though, and have been since the 1960s, at least in my perspective. It's been especially rough in the last ten or so years, when people all over the world could easily communicate with each other and exchange ideas much more easily and rapidly than ever before. Such things frighten governments and other powerful people. Because it's also never been easier to "spill the beans" and whistleblow.

      Government and industry are quite close to each other these days, and neither wants some of their practices to be smeared all over the planet, for everyone to read. It's never been easier for people to get information into circulation, content is not just music and movies, it's also information and ideas, and they can be spread, multiplied and distributed just as quickly.

      And that's what scares not only the content industry, but everyone who could be threatened by the quick distribution of any kind of information.

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  17. Re:Disappeared == data breach? by N1AK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, the media and everyone here is getting their panties all in a twist and coming up with fantastical hypothetical situation when the most likely scenario is nothing bad will come from this as it rarely does.

    Because with information of sufficient importance the very fact we don't have an exhaustive audit trail would be worrying (someone may of gotten access). The fact that we don't even know where it is? That, is scary. Not only is the risk that this data still exists, meaning that either careers will be ruined or national security will be endangered. But additionally it is a further reminder of how incompetent government can be with obviously important data.

    Although you may find the strength of feeling some people have regarding this breech to be unfounded, I expect I am not alone in finding your opinion that nothing bad will happen because "it rarely does" incredibly naive.

  18. consequence by anonieuweling · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All Royal Air Force staff involved can thus forget about any clearance at all since they can be blackmailed.
    I guess the military should compensate said personnel for loss of career possibilities and of course improve their data protection/storage/etc policies.

  19. only one way to keep data secure by cosanostradamus · · Score: 3, Insightful

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    Keep it in your head. There is no such thing as absolute security, therefore there is no such thing as security. If you don't want to share something, don't share it with anybody.
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  20. late news...? by thredder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So losing sensitive data "last year" is only being reported now as a problem!?

    I hope that between losing the material and reporting it (several months later), some action has already been taken to minimise the potential for blackmail. ...or were they waiting a certain length of time to see if it turned up somewhere or was posted back to them before panicking.

    (I would say that I hope action has already been taken to prevent this from happening again, but I'm not that naive)

  21. This is how it is done with highly secretive tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I worked for a while in this area. If you want to get rid of a failing, and very expensive, defence project, the best way to do it is to have an 'accidental' security stuff up. That way you can ditch the failed program under the guise of 'national security' rather than incompetence, mismanagement, and the various other real reasons for project failures. This also means the project managers usually get off from being completely incompetent. Rather than have a failed project, they have a security breach, which is often investigated and forgotten about with a slap on the back and a guffaw (especially if the member is a part of the boys club).

    It wouldn't surprise me if the stuff up was part of some Machiavellian back room defence politics. The old canard that civilians (especially on /.) state about choosing incompetence over conspiracy can be thrown out the window when it comes to national security and defence. Many of these individuals realize they have a system that can be exploited for their own personal gain if needed.

  22. Re:Mind boggling by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it's cheaper to blackmail loyality than to buy it? Duh...

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  23. Re:Mind boggling by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After all, what better way to ensure that your people are immune from blackmail than to have the other side using false information...

    It doesn't matter so much whether the information is false or true, what matters is if you have control of the means of communication. Just ask John Kerry about the Swift Boat Veterans. Baseless information can do great damage if you have the power to shout it loudly enough. Meanwhile, BAE systems bribed a Saudi Prince over US$1billion to direct his country to make various arms purchases and when the UK authorities began investigations, our own British government stepped in and order the investigation stopped. Corruption on a massive scale that dropped from the national press like a scab from a leper.

    I think this post further down has one of the most insightful takes on why the information might be gathered. Not that I feel it fully excuses the gathering of the information and certainly doesn't excuse its loss. The RAF officers who gave this information to their employers had a simple choice - tell the truth about their more shameful behaviour or lie to cover it up. They chose wrong.

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  24. RIPA, DV and Protectively Marked assets by Hazelesque · · Score: 2, Informative

    This has nothing to do with the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act. If some ne'er-do-well has stolen the hard drive, RIPA is not going to entitle them to the key to decrypt it, nor does it make encrypting it in the first place illegal! CESG ( http://www.cesg.gov.uk/ ) assesses a wide variety of cryptographic products as to their suitability for handling protectiveloy marked information, and some of these are restricted to HMG use only!

    The paper forms for Developed Vetting themselves are marked "RESTRICTED STAFF (when completed)". See http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/spf/faqs.aspx for information about protectively marked assets, and the DV forms themselves at http://www.hmgcc.gov.uk/clearance.aspx.

  25. Blackmail is such an ugly word... by gnarlyhotep · · Score: 2, Funny

    I prefer extortion. The X makes it sound cool. -Bender