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Asus Slaps Linux In the Face

vigmeister writes "From Techgeist, 'Linux just got a major slap in the face today from Asus. One of the highlights of Linux going mainstream was the wildly popular Asus Eee PC preinstalled with a customized Linux distro geared towards web applications. While I personally never got what the big deal was, I was still happy for all the Linux people out there waiting for this day, but it looks like the cause for celebration won't be lasting much longer. Asus and Microsoft have teamed up and have made a site called 'It's Better With Windows.' The page touts how easy it is to get up and ready with Windows on an Asus Eee PC, while slyly stating that you won't have to deal with an 'unfamiliar environment' and 'major compatibility issues.' While it is silly to state such a thing since Asus built the Linux distribution specifically for the Eee PC, I give Microsoft two points for snarky comments.'"

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  1. Re:Meh by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Informative

    And make sure you demand your Windows Tax Refund - however little you manage to claw back from them, it'll still cost Asus extra to process the refund.

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  2. Re:How much money changed hands? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond. I wonder how much MS paid for this special treatment, or did they threaten Asus with higher prices?

    I still don't see any conclusive evidence thi was Asus' work. I think your anger should be directed at Microsoft. I can't prove it for sure but the whois of this domain itsbetterwithwindows.com reads:

    Registrant:
    Michael Sharp
    12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
    Box 238
    Kent, Washington 98030
    United States

    Domain Name: ITSBETTERWITHWINDOWS.COM
    Created on: 05-Dec-08
    Expires on: 05-Dec-09
    Last Updated on: 05-Dec-08

    And so we put it in the same state as Washington. Now, I'm guessing this is a PR company and we have a perfect match of Arbirtron Ad agency listing Michael Sharp as Manager, Agency & Advertiser Services for several different regions of the US.

    Ok, from there if you google Arbitron Asus and Arbitron Microsoft you come up with two very juicy powerpoints from Microsoft on Arbitron's site.

    I would put my guess at 95% that this is a Microsoft run and funded site with little to do with Asus other than get their permission.

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  3. Re:hey Asus by nschubach · · Score: 4, Informative

    They definitely lost sales from me... and I regularly buy motherboards from them.

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  4. Also a Michael Sharp at Microsoft by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    And so we put it in the same state as Washington. Now, I'm guessing this is a PR company and we have a perfect match of Arbitron Ad agency listing Michael Sharp as Manager, Agency & Advertiser Services for several different regions of the US. Ok, from there if you google Arbitron Asus and Arbitron Microsoft you come up with two very juicy powerpoints from Microsoft on Arbitron's site.

    I just noticed those two powerpoints only come up because they're Microsoft Powerpoints so that's not a very strong link.

    But that linking is probably unnecessary considering I just found this bio on Microsoft of a Michael Sharp as Director with the Information Security Team. Yes, it's a pretty common name but I'm pretty sure this ad work reeks of Microsoft and not Asus.

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  5. Re:Mod parent up! by koiransuklaa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can't imagine why it would be sponsored by Asus but they certainly link to it: http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html

  6. Re:That's a damn shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=ITSBETTERWITHWINDOWS.COM

    Check out the owner's Expert-Exchange profile
    http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_1301691.html

    "I am an independant web and application developer, specializing in Content Management and Collaboration. My company, CollaborationPeople, Inc. serves clients in Seattle, Washington and the greater Puget Sound Region, although I have clients as far away as Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, CA and Portland, Or."

    Registrant:
    Michael Sharp
    12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
    Box 238
    Kent, Washington 98030
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: ITSBETTERWITHWINDOWS.COM
    Created on: 05-Dec-08
    Expires on: 05-Dec-09
    Last Updated on: 05-Dec-08

    Administrative Contact:
    Sharp, Michael rdcpro@hotmail.com
    12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
    Box 238
    Kent, Washington 98030
    United States
    (877) 788-8066

    Technical Contact:
    Sharp, Michael rdcpro@hotmail.com
    12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
    Box 238
    Kent, Washington 98030
    United States
    (877) 788-8066

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS61.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS62.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

    Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
    Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited

  7. Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway by Dunkirk · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got an Eee that I ordered with Linux. Their version came off in about an hour. I tried Easy Peasy for a few hours till I found Ubuntu Netbook Remix. (I've been a Gentoo fan for years, so I haven't followed that really closely.) Everything about UNR is fantastic except for one thing: browsers crash on it very frequently. And by "very frequently," I mean every time I use it. Unfortunately, running a browser is the single biggest use case for a netbook. I've read the forums; I've tried the suggestions; nothing works for me. I can't even get gdb to give me any useful info. At this point, I'm hoping that a big update comes out that magically fixes it. Until then, I keep looking for something else to try. Maybe Moblin? Maybe Win7? (Yeah, yeah, I know, but I have 9 computers at home. I just want the thing to WORK.) I'd put Gentoo on it, but I don't want to thrash the SSD, and I can't figure out how to get a cross-compiler going on my workstation. (Well, that, and I know I'd spend a MONTH tweaking everything to get it to the same level of functionality -- laptop-wise -- that UNR has out of the box.)

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  8. Re:hey Asus by jackharrer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Has anybody checked whois database? Guys, it's fake, somebody made a website (hosted on godaddy) just to stir a hornets' nest.

    Have fun being played...

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  9. Re:That's a damn shame by martas · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can. Vista wouldn't run on a machine like that. For MS, it's better if people are stuck with XP than if they get introduced/used to Linux.

  10. Re:hey Asus by Kylock · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although parent is modded Troll, just a quick whois reveals that the domain was registered by some guy with a hotmail address using godaddy as a registrar (and likely the host as well.. It also uses godaddy DNS. I would also question the authenticity of this website. A whois to the IP shows that it's hosted by hopone.net. Also, there is nothing on ASUS's website to indicate that they had anything to do with this.

  11. Re:hey Asus by need4mospd · · Score: 3, Informative
    Mod parent down. The website is real AND it's supported by Asus.

    The link to the site is on the Asus website.

    http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html

  12. Re:hey Asus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, there is nothing on ASUS's website to indicate that they had anything to do with this.

    Actually, this page on asus.co.uk links to itsbetterwithwindows.com, although I can't find any such links on asus.com.
    need4mospd deserves the credit for finding that link.

  13. Re:hey Asus by learningtree · · Score: 4, Informative

    I appreciate your observations regarding the domain registration for this site, but the site is directly linked from the ASUS website .
    So there is no question of this being a fake site.

  14. Re:hey Asus by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Informative

    I appreciate your observations regarding the domain registration for this site, but the site is directly linked from the ASUS website.

    So there is no question of this being a fake site.

    Except that site links to www.asus.co.uk Asus's real UK website is uk.asus.com

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  15. Re:hey Asus by niw · · Score: 3, Informative

    I highly doubt that ASUS hosts there website on 1and1.co.uk. Nor would they use 1and1 for their registrar. Especially when asus.com is registered with Network Solutions.

    Not to mention that page seems to be the only page that the domain has on it and if try to snoop around it just redirects to uk.asus.com which is where asus.com sends you when you choose the UK for your country. If you check other countries on the asus.com landing page you will see that Asus puts there country sites on subdomains.

    nic.uk asus.co.uk whois

    Result of WHOIS query:

              Domain name:
                      asus.co.uk

              Registrant:
                      Asustek Computer Inc

              Trading as:
                      Asus

              Registrant type:
                      UK Individual

              Registrant's address:
                      The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
                      address omitted from the WHOIS service.

              Registrar:
                      1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND]
                      URL: http://registrar.1und1.info/

              Relevant dates:
                      Registered on: 23-May-1997
                      Renewal date: 23-May-2011
                      Last updated: 22-May-2009

              Registration status:
                      Renewal request being processed.

              Name servers:
                      ns59.1and1.co.uk
                      ns60.1and1.co.uk

              WHOIS lookup made at 16:22:49 28-May-2009

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  16. Re:How much money changed hands? by Khisanth+Magus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Which has been repeatedly proven to NOT be asus's web site, but is yet again a fake. The correct Asus UK site is uk.asus.com

  17. Re:hey Asus by Jesus_666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yup. Scam site. It's registered to "Asustek Computer Inc" (asus.com is registered to "Asus Computer International") via a German 1&1 reseller/brand. It seems someone is trying to damage Asus' reputation.

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  18. I wonder what really happened by rs232 · · Score: 3, Informative

    They must really really needed for the ASUS Linux experiment to fail. I just wonder what really went on behind closed doors, and what it cost MS in monetary value to squelch the deal.

    "In order to compete more effectively against Linux and other providers on these deals, we can now leverage the Education and Government Incentive [EDGI] program to help tip the scales to MS in the deal. After engaging the regional team. the region may use funds to provide services and/or rebates to the customer with the following limitation:

    "Not to exceed the estimated Windows royalties recognized by MS from the OEM selling the PC's to the customer (in the example, 50,000 PC's at approx. $100/PC for OEM Windows XP Professional would result in a maximum of $5M for the individual deal)"

    It is essential, therefore, that we use this in only in deals we would lose otherwise

    "Bottom line do our best to show the great value of our software to these customers and ensure we get paid for it under NO circumstances lose against Linux before ensuring we have used this program actively and in a smart way

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  19. Re:hey Asus by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.asus.co.uk/ is not Asus UK website. Check out http://uk.asus.com./ Also check whois info for both.

    For asus.com:

    Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
    Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
    Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/
    Status: clientTransferProhibited

    Expiration Date: 2011-10-24
    Creation Date: 1995-10-25
    Last Update Date: 2007-03-29

    Name Servers:
            dns3.asus.com
            dns7.asus.com

    For asus.co.uk:

    Domain name:
                    asus.co.uk

            Registrant:
                    Asustek Computer Inc

            Trading as:
                    Asus

            Registrant type:
                    UK Individual

            Registrant's address:
                    The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
                    address omitted from the WHOIS service.

            Registrar:
                    1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND]
                    URL: http://registrar.1und1.info/

            Relevant dates:
                    Registered on: 23-May-1997
                    Renewal date: 23-May-2011
                    Last updated: 22-May-2009

            Registration status:
                    Renewal request being processed.

            Name servers:
                    ns59.1and1.co.uk
                    ns60.1and1.co.uk

    Furthermore, if you look around the fake site, you'll see that it redirects to uk.asus.com for all URLs that you feed to it (thus creating the illusion that it is indeed an official Asus site), except for that one URL which opens the webpage linking to the site in TFA.