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Customer Resource Management For Non-Profits?

NoTerminal writes "My 60-person non-profit organization is looking for a tool or set of tools to keep track of our donors and contacts. A perfect solution will either replace or gracefully synchronize with Outlook's contacts module, as well as provide a powerful back-end that can handle donation tracking, grant reporting, and interaction tracking. What contact management system or customer relations management package is your non-profit using? How do you like it?"

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  1. Blackbaud Products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Specifically the Raiser's Edge. Seems to do most of what you need.

  2. salesforce.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    salesforce provides free service to registered nonprofits. as you probably know, salesforce is an incredibly robust and extensible CRM system. it can be tweaked pretty easily. if anything, it might be too heavyweight. but it will certainly get the job done.

    1. Re:salesforce.com by StJohnsWort · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yep. I work for a chain of not for profit hospitals and I know the folks who handle donor contributions use salesforce.com. Have been for years. Do not know what they like / dislike about it. But the years of use doe's say something. The only thing is it can be bandwidth intensive on your internet pipe.

  3. Budget makes a big difference... by Underfoot · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not sure how big your budget is, but I've heard nothing but good things about Tessitura:
    http://www.tessituranetwork.com/Products.aspx

    There is also Raiser's Edge - but their product (in my opinion) feels like it was put together by a programmer (i.e. - written to bad specs by someone whose job isn't fundraising), not by a user - and thus has lots of quirks that make it not as useful as it should be...
    http://www.blackbaud.com/products/fundraising/raisersedge.aspx

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    1. Re:Budget makes a big difference... by Underfoot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't really care about how a database looks. I care about how a database functions. Tessitura is well thought-out as far as making the product useful to the non-profit. RE seems to go out of its way to make the non-profit do more work / buy more modules. (Have you ever tried to invite a couple to an event? There is no easy way to add a spouse after adding the main contact. Simple little thing, but it means a lot of time from someone who more than likely doesn't have any, as non-profit staff tends to wear many hats.) Again, personal opinion based on personal experience.

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    2. Re:Budget makes a big difference... by lionchild · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've worked with a number of non-profit's as an IT-Consultant who are small enough that I *am* the IT-department. Some have used in house spreadsheets and file-maker databases, but both Tessitura and Raisers Edge are the two big products that I've seen and worked with. Both do what a non-profit needs to do. But, it's all about your budget.

      Currently, I have one non-profit who is splitting Tessitura between 2 other non-profits. Cost sharing it makes it something reasonable for all three. It's hosted at a central site for them and there's someone in charge of all three data sets. It's something I'd suggest considering if you are really interested in one of the better products.

      Good luck!

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    3. Re:Budget makes a big difference... by gobbo · · Score: 3, Informative

      One of 'my' non-profits (~200mbrs) uses the software 'Donation' (softwarefornonprofits.com) but most of the users complain about the interface, and there are some problems keeping things in sync.

      So, since the website is running Drupal, I'm looking at civicrm as a way to incorporate a back-end. I like the idea of controlling backups remotely and things staying in sync. Not sure about methods of producing tax receipts, or its reliability as a data source for accounting software.

      Another possibility we were considering is eBase, a free FileMaker based CRM system for non-profits. I like the filemaker design environment for quick user interfaces, and custom reports etc. It's easy to teach a moderately skilled computer user to administer. But, eBase uses an antiquated file format, not even sure where to get FM v.5. Waiting on an update.

      Another non-profit I'm in the middle of setting up plans on having a much larger membership base, with many layers of privilege, and will center on a media-rich website, so we'll probably try CiviCRM.

  4. Raisers Edge by dave562 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's pretty much the industry standard. I work for a 501(c)3 non-profit with a $15 million a year budget. It's Windows only, but I'm not aware of any open source solution that includes all of the industry specific knowledge that Raisers Edge does.

    1. Re:Raisers Edge by Y_Slide · · Score: 2, Informative

      I work in a public accounting firm and specialize in auditing non-profits. I agree with the above, Raiser's Edge is the standard for most medium to large non-profits. It does a good job tracking donors and information associated. It isn't perfect in all situations (i.e., it doesn't seem to track information to tie in with fund accounting very well.) However, I have quite a few clients who love it.

  5. Raiser's Edge if you've got money, or Orange Leap by dameron · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not cheap by any stretch.

    If you want cheap then Orange Leap has an open source "Community Edition" of their CRM that comes with no support.

  6. Re:Just say no, to SalesforceCRM by Cytos · · Score: 2, Informative

    I totally disagree.. To me it seems powerful, simple, and very flexible. Japan Post, Starbucks, Dell, all customers... Non-profits get 10 licenses and over 4,000 nonprofits use it. http://www.salesforce.com/foundation/ Worth a look at least.

  7. Hosted Microsoft CRM by pnetz · · Score: 2, Informative

    You might want to try hosted Microsoft CRM which is available pretty cheap per seat.

  8. Sugar sugar by alexborges · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just sugarcrm.

    Its direct, integrates well with excel and outlook. I mean, im baffled that very few mentioned it here.

    Sugar is the way to go.

    I have to suffer salesforce and, FOR OUR NEEDS, it sucks infront of sugar. And thats that.

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  9. Salesforce.com by jdstahl · · Score: 3, Informative

    Salesforce.com is a pretty amazing platform for doing CRM that goes well beyond just donor management. As others have mentioned, the Salesforce Foundation makes it available from free-to-darn-cheap. It has good Outlook/Office integration, and unlike most other solutions Salesforce has an really solid Web Services API that makes it possible to integrate with all kinds of other systems, notably including Plone, the open-source CMS system that many nonprofits use. ONE/Northwest, the nonprofit I work for, has done a ton of work in this area, and has had great success at delivering powerful, easy-to-use solutions to mid-sized environmental nonprofits.

  10. Sugar by Cornwallis · · Score: 2, Informative

    www.sugarcrm.com or sugarforge.org - They offer commercial and free open source versions and there are a number of free & pay plugins. Works well on your server or theirs.

  11. OpenERP by smoyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    OpenERP (http://openerp.com/) has an integrated CRM. I've had great success with this project and the database is completely accessible via XML-RPC if you need custom functions. I've also used SugarCRM, but am not nearly so enamored with that project.

  12. NGO-in-a-Box by dominique_cimafranca · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try http://ngoinabox.org/, They offer four versions, but the most apropos is their Base Edition, with more detailed info here http://base.ngoinabox.org./ For donation tracking, the component they use is CiviCRM - http://civicrm.org/.

  13. nten- tech 4 nonprofits is ur best research star by superphoebe · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.nten.org/ has done reports comparing CMS for nonprofits, including a great comparison of drupal, joomla & plone. Beth's blog, techsoup and netsquared are great resources additionally, you could look into using another serive like donor's resource, firstgiving, givezooks, Mysamaris, and Razoo- most of which have a free option Raiser's Edge, like anything Blackbaud is really great if you can afford it. But I would start at the source of research and read the reviews- they are seriously helpful!

  14. My Job. by kbromer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work as a DB consultant for a non-profit that does CRM-Database and Web consulting for other non-profits. We've developed in a variety of platforms and have done everything from custom built solutions through Salesforce, so I'm pretty familiar with the turf. My tips:
    1. Raiser's Edge is a nice product with relatively easy entry, but its REALLY tough to master, and, as is true with most systems I've worked with, reporting is still more an art than a science. It's expensive, support is expensive, maintenance is expensive.
    2. Salesforce is our preferred platform at the moment. Low barrier to entry (10 seat license for free for 501c(3)), alot of training available free of charge, and with some tweaking, a good non-profit overlay for it's sales-centric backend. Their current NP Template is severely lacking (we have our own package we use) although they've got some momentum behind it lately, and I expect it to improve dramatically over the next few releases. We do alot of customization work on this platform, and its pretty flexible, nice API, great plug-in for Eclipse and the OO language (Apex) they use for the API layer is derived from Java. I wasn't sold at first, but its really grown on me as a platform. Reporting can still be rough though.
    3. Filemaker/eBase Not worth your time, money, or frustration.
    4. SugarCRM has been getting some mention in the community lately, and in my experience, may be a viable alternative, but I haven't had enough time to play with it.
    5. Custom solutions are always pricey, but you should (theoretically) get what you want. MS Access (please no), SQL Server, whatever the opensource flavor of the week is- if you have a really odd-duck funding or business model, it might be worth a look.
    The only reason I wouldn't recommend SF outright to you is that it's a bit finicky to setup the Outlook connector, I can't speak for the others around Outlook connectivity. OTOH, what is your CRM DB doing trying to replace your email system in the first place?

    1. Re:My Job. by ScienceMan · · Score: 2, Informative

      I also do extensive technical support for a not-for-profit. We recently switched most of our communication including mail, documents, calendar, and other communications and a significant part of our web presence to the Google Apps for Domain suite. We are really happy with this solution and are saving a ton of money. As a 501(c)(3), we are eligible for and have received this at no cost.

      In terms of CRM, we see that Salesforce has what appears to be extremely good integration with Google Apps. We haven't tried this yet, and are somewhat concerned about costs, but may go that direction also as our usage of the Google Apps suite matures.

      By the way, the new scripting tools for spreadsheets recently announced for early trial look very good, and may replace any need we have for other products.

  15. Re:Customer Resource Management For Non-Profits? by JMZero · · Score: 2, Informative

    And they do it for a pittance of pay because it's something they care about.

    I spend on charity, and almost never do I donate to charities that pay people to call me. I find charities that spend their money on programs, not on fundraising and administration. Some charities attract volunteer callers/canvassers - but a lot of times it's just people doing a job like any other and there's no reason to glorify what they're doing. The net effect of what they do, beyond making a living, is often going to be moving charitable funding from funding programs over to funding administration and fundraising (calling/advertising) costs.

    Honestly, many charities are basically a business that produces calls for donation. For example, "Angel Flight West" sounds like a great charity: "Arranging free air transportation in response to health care and other compelling human needs".

    Then you see that only 31.1% of donations go towards the actual program and the rest is lost to administration and fundraising costs (link). Now I'm not saying they aren't trying to good work, or that charities in general aren't doing good work - but I do think there's justification at being frustrated with how many charities are run.

    To balance out my last example, look at Food For The Poor. 96.8% of their incoming funds goes to the program.

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  16. Drupal + CiviCRM? by crivens · · Score: 3, Informative

    How about Drupal + this module: http://drupal.org/project/civicrm

  17. Re:TechSoup,org by CFrankBernard · · Score: 2, Informative

    Guide to Dynamics CRM 4.0 Editions and Licensing http://www.techsoup.org/stock/dtjumppages/microsoft/crm_editions.asp

  18. Re:CiviCRM by GoodNicksAreTaken · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work for a 45k-50k member non-profit. We have a staff of around 100 and a 4 person IT department. We use CiviCRM for event registrations. Our main member database is MS SQL with VB.NET apps and horrid Filemaker applications held over from when this was an all Apple shop. I've tried to push for migration to CiviCRM and making contributions to the project to get CiviCanvas. We currently use GetActive for email contact. We currently have our main website contracted out hosted with an ASP based CMS. Drupal with CiviCRM could eliminate several of our internal and contracted applications. My only complaint with CiviCRM is that getting templates to work nicely with both Drupal and the CiviCRM portion seems to be difficult.

  19. Donor Perfect by DavidD_CA · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out Donor Perfect, which for a very small organization can be licensed for like $50. It's amazingly powerful for such a small price.

    For larger organizations, the price goes up. It does everything you're asking for, except (perhaps) the Outlook sync. I don't know if it does that.

    And although I hate Intuit, check out Quickbooks for Non-Profits. The only reason I'm suggesting this is because love-them-or-hate-them, Quickbooks is the defacto account software for small organizations and their non-profit module ain't bad. Plus, if you're outsourcing your accounting, they'll appreciate that you're on QB.

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  20. Re:Excel. by Anpheus · · Score: 3, Informative

    My solution requires, literally, them to merely plug in a hard drive with a batch file already on it, and then make a single click.

    And no, it was for a very small business that doesn't need or want an IT department to manage its computers. Performance hit? The new computers were six years newer than the ones stolen. If they noticed a performance hit, they only told me about how much faster their computers were.

  21. CiviCRM by Mathieu+Lu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try CiviCRM, http://civicrm.org./ It's AGPL, good community, great devs. We've implemented it for a few medium-large organisations and it works nicely.

    Not sure it integrates with Outlook, but mailing contacts can be done directly from the software (so that it appears in the history of that contact). Allows to receive donations, event registration, grant management, case management, mail blasts, etc. If you have a large member community and website, it can integrate with Drupal and Joomla. For example, we often integrate it with Organic Groups, or grant special Drupal roles depending on the membership.

  22. Re:Use Salesforce.com by danomac · · Score: 2, Informative

    I also work for a nonprofit organization, and TechSoup is an invaluable resource. They offer software and hardware that has been donated by various companies (such as Sage, Microsoft, Symantec, Cisco, Intuit, and many others) that is only available for nonprofits. They do have CRM software buried in there somewhere. I strongly suggest you check it out, especially for things such as antivirus, where it can save literally thousands off of existing charity pricing.