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University Gives Away iPhones To Curb Truancy

Norsefire writes "A Japanese University is giving away iPhones to its students to use the phones' GPS functionality to catch students who skip classes. The University claims students currently fake attendance by having other students answer for them during rollcall, they also said that while this can be abused by giving other students the phone, they are much less likely to do this due to the personal information, such as email, a phone generally contains."

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  1. There is always an easier solution... by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay. Umm.. Who the fuck cares if students show up to class or not. At university we are old enough to decide if class is a waste of time or not. I skipped tons of classes during my undergrad degree and this enabled me to actually assignments that I wouldn't have otherwise had time for.

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    1. Re:There is always an easier solution... by Cimexus · · Score: 4, Informative

      The article states that attendance at this university is a necessary requirement to graduate:

      Truants in Japan often fake attendance by getting friends to answer roll-call or hand in signed attendance cards. That's verging on cheating since attendance is a key requirement for graduation.

      Having said that, smart students would probably be able to figure out a way of disabling this 'feature' or spoofing it to show them as being in a different location pretty quickly. Also GPS often fails to get a usable signal in some buildings.

    2. Re:There is always an easier solution... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

      I skipped tons of classes during my undergrad degree and this enabled me to actually assignments that I wouldn't have otherwise had time for.

      Congrats on your engineering degree. I hope that those skipped English classes don't interfere with your technical writing ;)

    3. Re:There is always an easier solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The article states that attendance at this university is a necessary requirement to graduate:

      Truants in Japan often fake attendance by getting friends to answer roll-call or hand in signed attendance cards. That's verging on cheating since attendance is a key requirement for graduation.

      Having said that, smart students would probably be able to figure out a way of disabling this 'feature' or spoofing it to show them as being in a different location pretty quickly. Also GPS often fails to get a usable signal in some buildings.

      So what?

      They just give the phone to whoever is going to be signing in for them.

      If they want to stop truancy, just give a quiz at the beginning of every class.

      Of course if what they're interested in is giving the students an education, stop taking roll and just crack down on academics.

    4. Re:There is always an easier solution... by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Japanese don't see their university students as grown-ups, not yet 'shakai-jin' or part of society. So university kids are still... kids. Even more frustrating is; grades are more about attendance than performance.

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    5. Re:There is always an easier solution... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article states that attendance at this university is a necessary requirement to graduate

      So? It's still a dumb requirement for graduation. Unless it's different over there, University is optional, paid for entirely by the attendee, and generally not started until one's about 18. There's absolutely no reason to make attendance part of the requirements for graduation, if you choose not to attend, that's completely up to you.

    6. Re:There is always an easier solution... by dov_0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that attendance is often mandatory (certainly in tertiary studies that I've done in Australia it has been) because soaking in the subject during lecture, hearing questions answered and participating in group discussions are actually part of the educational process. It's not just about the essays or exams.

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    7. Re:There is always an easier solution... by chaos95 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think that attendance is often mandatory (certainly in tertiary studies that I've done in Australia it has been)

      I went to university in Melbourne, and attendance was only mandatory for the practical/lab component of each course; lectures and tutorials were optional (but obviously recommended).

    8. Re:There is always an easier solution... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Last time I looked at the statistics from my university, there was a correlation between attendance and mediocre results. The worst students didn't turn up all the time, and failed because they didn't know the material. The good students didn't turn up all the time, and did well because they learned enough in the lectures they did attend to learn the rest on their own time.

      The purpose of a university is not to teach, it's to provide an environment where a student can learn, and to let them know what they should learn to be considered an expert in a particular field. There is a reason we don't call lecturers and professors teachers; the teacher in a university should always be the student. The lecturer is a guide on the path to education, not a leader.

      You don't need to go to lectures to be surrounded by people interested in the subject. When I was a student, I spent a couple of hours each day in a coffee shop on campus, and spent a lot of this time discussing various aspects of the subject with my peers. Part of university is learning to build your own structure, not requiring it to be rigidly enforced externally.

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  2. This is sure to boost attendance. by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now that every student will be able to browse the web and chat with their friends in class, I'm sure fewer will cut.

  3. Nice Going, Japan! by TheABomb · · Score: 5, Funny

    If "Having other students answer roll call for them" is an indetectible method of circumventing the rollcall procedures, then Japanese professors are just playing into the West's "All Asians Look Exactly Alike" stereotype. Way to go, Nihon.

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  4. Re:Why am I seeing an ad for scientology ? by Qubit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear slashdot, why am I seeing an advertisement for scientology on the slashdot front page ?

    Because they can't advertise on Wikipedia anymore?

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  5. There's an app for that by gollito · · Score: 4, Funny

    Need to have your phone send faulty GPS coordinates so people monitoring your location think you are in class? There's an app for that.

  6. Let me explain the situation over here... by kklein · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw this come up on Hacker News yesterday and knew it was only a matter of time before it hit Slashdot, and I'd be typing this (more people read Slashdot, so I thought I would just save my energy).

    I am an assistant professor at one of the top schools in Japan (Aoyama Gakuin, by the way, is also in the top 10 for sure). Allow me to explain what sounds like crazy-talk to someone from the Western university system.

    Here is the lynchpin for the whole thing. You understand this and you understand everything:

    In Japan, it's very hard to get into a good college, but once you do, it is customary to do virtually nothing until graduation. Companies hire people largely on the name of the school on their degree, and GPAs don't even exist at most schools, and are most certainly not given to prospective employers. Furthermore, the employer is actually who does most of the real-world education. When I worked at a foreign-language college, I had students--bright, definitely technically-inclined students--being hired by IBM to be system engineers. Except, our school only offered foreign language and other "international studies" classes. No math, no science, no engineering. I don't even think we had any history professors. (The term "university" here does not mean what it means in the West. It really ought to be translated as "post-secondary school.") But our graduates were (correctly, I think) identified as people likely to succeed in IT by IBM-Japan's entrance examinations, and they were hired. The first few years of their "employment," therefore, will actually be CS classes--but only on what IBM does.

    Now, the companies aren't really all that stoked about this, especially companies like IBM, but they have hit their work visa limit and can't bring in any more Indian guys who actually know what they're doing, and besides, it's awfully nice to have native speakers of the local language working at your company. But this is how it is going these days, and how it pretty much has always gone. Universities are finishing schools.

    Here's the other point that contributes to rampant truancy: The job hunt is a nightmare over here. Companies only hire once a year. Everything in Japan goes on an April-March schedule. So if you don't have a job lined up by the time you graduate in March, you are screwed until next April. Doubly screwed, in fact, because the lingering question next year when you do the rounds of examinations and cattle-call interviews will be "why didn't this person get a job last time?" So Japanese university students tend to cram all their classes for 4 years into the first 2 and a half years. They literally have classes all day every day. They can do this because there's no homework.

    You read that right.

    I have taught at every level of the Japanese education system, from primary school through university, and I can tell you this: Homework is an anomaly. Yeah, they have it, but nothing like what I had in the US system. So all this shock and horror over "cram schools?" Guys, if these kids' parents didn't send their kids there, they wouldn't get any studying done. Basically, those places are small-group tutor companies, and they do a really important service. Don't feel sorry for the kids because they have to go to "cram school;" feel sorry for them that their academic and vocational lives are going to hinge on a single, poorly-designed, multiple-choice test designed by professors who don't know that "trick questions" are the worst thing you can put on a test, because all they do is create noise (full disclosure: I design standardized language tests; I actually know what I'm talking about here). Unlike the US, which uses highly-reliable, at-least-arguably-valid standardized tests (SAT or ACT) designed by some of the best psychometricians in the world, people are judged here by whether they can figure out the "correct" answer to an item that someone who knows nothing about test design and implementation penned in his spare time.

    The "no homework" culture is exacerb

    1. Re:Let me explain the situation over here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just wanted to chime in and say this is an awesome post.

      The effect of this courses right up through the entire society. Even after they get into the workforce, it's hard to say when these kids actually become "adults" (from the viewpoint of other societies). They'll join a company that they expect to be able to remain employed at until retirement. They don't have to think very hard on what they want to do with their career, life, etc. Just show up, stay late, do what you're told and you get paid. Emphasis on the stay late part.

      So you end up with a society full of people who are unable to think independently and who are afraid of individual responsibility. (There are some exceptions, and I'm sure you could point to examples of this in, for example, the US as well)

      What other ways does this show up?

      At election time, all the politicians run around saying "Vote for me, I'll do my best to make Japan a good place to live" or "Vote for me I'll support a good economy!" or simply "Vote for me, I'll work hard!". While (VERY recently) the major parties have put together manifests of where they stand on issues, but no one actually uses this to differientiate themselves. No one puts this into easy to understand language and delivers a speech that explain this is why you should vote for them. There are lots of reasons for this, but I'm sure one of them is that no politician really expects to be held responsible by the voting public for what they really stand for (if they stand for anything at all..).

      Also, just as of this week, they have implemented trial by jury here (until now, all trials were completely run by the judges). And with the start of this new system, all you see on TV is people whining about how "I don't want to be responsible for judging someone".

      Anyway, the parent described things much more eloquently than I can in my rusty language skills (I'm actually a native English speaker..), so I'll leave it at that. It's quite different over here! (There are lots of good things, too, but after reading a bunch of narrow minded reviews from a bunch of Japanese IT engineers on a talk I recently gave and getting ready to ride the crowded train home, I'm more inclined to the negative at the moment)

    2. Re:Let me explain the situation over here... by kklein · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To think that Japanese schools at a similar level are worse is painful, especially since the uninformed (myself until this) generally hear the reverse is true.

      It depends a lot on the university, of course. The university I'm at now is really hard to get into, and I have to say that these kids are pretty bright. That does not, however, mean they are as serious or emotionally invested in their studies as typical US students.

      They tend to be very involved in club activities (sports, music, whatever), and this is not because they are lazy; this is what employers want to see. They want to see that you have worked hard in a group organization for 4 years and have come up through that system to train new students, which is basically exactly what they'll be doing at work.

      But yeah, the US system, compared to the Japanese, ain't too shabby. Well, it wasn't, until we started copying the Japanese. As I said, I am a tester. I believe that with sound statistics and applied psychology, we really can figure out what someone knows. That being said, I don't think that's the point of education. Education is supposed to teach you how to think. It's supposed to stretch you and challenge you and give you a safe environment in which to fail, and in which to learn how you get things done. As the US moves to a more testing-based system, I just groan. It's not good. Standardized tests should be few and far between. In fact, I can't think of a single psychometrician I know who doesn't agree. We design tests and tell people what it will tell them, and then watch administrators try to use them for something else (then complain that they don't do that something else well!).

    3. Re:Let me explain the situation over here... by kklein · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How is passing 90%+ students that would fail keeping the reputation up?

      Two reasons:

      1) They've already been vetted by the entrance exam. Schools don't let people in they don't want their names on.

      2) It doesn't matter what you learn in school because the company is going to do most of your training anyway; you're not really expected to know anything when you start. So it doesn't matter.