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Copyright Protection Business Model Expands, Plagiarizes Others

Techdirt has an amusing story about the expanding adoption of the RIAA-style business model of collecting settlement money from threats of litigation based on copyright infringement claims. This story comes with an amusing twist with the two cited companies, Davenport Lyons and ACS, being clearly related and ACS publishing an article with clearly plagiarized selections. Anything to make a buck I guess. "TorrentFreak noticed that an article apparently published by ACS Law was actually plagiarized from a variety of different sources, basically cut and pasted together with no credit or citations given at all. Remarkably, in some cases, articles with the exact opposite view of ACS Law were copied with paragraphs that just had an added sentence to the end which completely contradicted what the original article said."

50 comments

  1. Lawyers Rules, Sadly by gpronger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He with the smartest lawyer wins.

    1. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't forget that a good lawyer also costs money which means that with enough money you can buy the ruling of the court too.

      Just look at the Pirate Bay trial.

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    2. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget that a good lawyer also costs money which means that with enough money you can buy the ruling of the court too.

      Just look at the Pirate Bay trial.

      No need to have good lawyers if you can buy the judge...

    3. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Migraineman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Victory by attrition is still victory.

    4. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I would, but I'm too cowardly.

    5. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Along that vein, having spoken with a number of lawyers, they all had admitted to 'borrowing' text from other agreements. One in particular took a fancy to Apple legal speak and regular used its legal copy, substituting its name for the company he was doing work. Why work for the hours you're billing? 1 min copy/paste/substitute, 100 hours playing golf to 'think' about what else to include.

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    6. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by areusche · · Score: 1

      So did the agreements explicitly deny the use of said product in nuclear missiles?

    7. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      He with the smartest lawyer wins.
      Not !

    8. Re:Lawyers Rules, Sadly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Golden Rule: The one with the gold rules. ~ Prof Hustein

  2. Isn't this just fair use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sounds like this is just ACS's version of the Grey Album.

  3. Quick Memo to the Team by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    From David Lyle, Acting Executive Director of ACS Law
    To ACS Law Staff

    Team,

    I'd like to talk to all of you today about a very important issue that is right now affecting our public image. So serious that major news outlets may even pick up on it. It is in regards to our publications on copyright and as members of the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy, we need to look after each other. We have learned an important lesson today and we must share it with everyone so we can't make the same time wasting mistakes in the future.

    That lesson, friends and coworkers, is that violating copyright is totally fucking awesome.

    I mean we used to spend how many man-hours on one of these reports? 120? 240? Wasted wasted time. The information is out there just waiting to be copied. At first I thought this brilliant new technology would be expensive. I mean, how much do we spend just on the software that turns our computers on? Nope, just two simple commands: ctrl-c ctrl-p. These are the shake-n-bake methods of success.

    That shit we did on Democracy and Voting? Yeah, take note. I just discovered that using this thing called Google will pull up page upon page of data that is as good as if not better than the crap we've been slaving over! Ever heard of a site called blackboxvoting.org? Fire up the goddamn presses. Frank LoMonte, that piece you did on the First Amendment was good. But Wikipedia's article is better. Next time save yourself the trouble, they're practically giving the stuff away out there--work smarter and faster people. Don't work harder.

    And if any of you pansies come up to me like our now ex-employee Jenkins did about credit and citations, you'll be getting a citation yourself. You'll be fired. Now that's a citation. I just wrote a five hundred page report on the Second Amendment in five minutes, I don't have time for citations. Hell, you're lucky I don't fire the team that figured this out months ago and didn't tell us! I mean, we're a team people. We need to work together.

    And if you're worried about the media, don't be. I've already bragged to them about this and told them they should pull their heads out of their asses and use it. Maybe that's why they're all dying business models? Ever think of that? This shit's free and they're paying for it. Morons. And the real icing on the cake is that since this hit the news, page views has tripled. It's fucking win/win no matter how you look at it.

    I'll bet you think I'm a chump typing all this out when I could have just ctrl-c ctrl-p from The Onion and if you caught that, good for you. I'm still learning here, let's grow together.

    Your friend and boss,

    David Lyle, Acting Executive Director of ACS Law

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    1. Re: Quick Memo to the Team by DeskLazer · · Score: 5, Funny

      "From David Lyle, Acting Executive Director of ACS Law
      To ACS Law Staff

      Team,

      I'd like to talk to all of you today about a very important issue that is right now affecting our public image. So serious that major news outlets may even pick up on it. It is in regards to our publications on copyright and as members of the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy, we need to look after each other. We have learned an important lesson today and we must share it with everyone so we can't make the same time wasting mistakes in the future.

      That lesson, friends and coworkers, is that violating copyright is totally fucking awesome.

      I mean we used to spend how many man-hours on one of these reports? 120? 240? Wasted wasted time. The information is out there just waiting to be copied. At first I thought this brilliant new technology would be expensive. I mean, how much do we spend just on the software that turns our computers on? Nope, just two simple commands: ctrl-c ctrl-p. These are the shake-n-bake methods of success.

      That shit we did on Democracy and Voting? Yeah, take note. I just discovered that using this thing called Google will pull up page upon page of data that is as good as if not better than the crap we've been slaving over! Ever heard of a site called blackboxvoting.org? Fire up the goddamn presses. Frank LoMonte, that piece you did on the First Amendment was good. But Wikipedia's article is better. Next time save yourself the trouble, they're practically giving the stuff away out there--work smarter and faster people. Don't work harder.

      And if any of you pansies come up to me like our now ex-employee Jenkins did about credit and citations, you'll be getting a citation yourself. You'll be fired. Now that's a citation. I just wrote a five hundred page report on the Second Amendment in five minutes, I don't have time for citations. Hell, you're lucky I don't fire the team that figured this out months ago and didn't tell us! I mean, we're a team people. We need to work together.

      And if you're worried about the media, don't be. I've already bragged to them about this and told them they should pull their heads out of their asses and use it. Maybe that's why they're all dying business models? Ever think of that? This shit's free and they're paying for it. Morons. And the real icing on the cake is that since this hit the news, page views has tripled. It's fucking win/win no matter how you look at it.

      I'll bet you think I'm a chump typing all this out when I could have just ctrl-c ctrl-p from The Onion and if you caught that, good for you. I'm still learning here, let's grow together.

      Your friend and boss,

      David Lyle, Acting Executive Director of ACS Law"

      All credit for this article goes to DeskLazer, who painstakingly used sources all over the internet to assemble this article.

    2. Re: Quick Memo to the Team by c0d3g33k · · Score: 1, Funny

      For want of modpoints, the kingdom was lost.

      Brilliant, brilliant. Mod this up Insightful, please.

    3. Re: Quick Memo to the Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      ctrl-v, not ctrl-p

    4. Re:Quick Memo to the Team by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Uuuhhhh dude? It is ctrl-c and ctrl-v, not ctrl-p. Just FYI.

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    5. Re:Quick Memo to the Team by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Informative

      No...he's copying it to the clipboard, then printing out a hard copy.

      This guy's violating copyright TWICE in TWO KEYSTROKES!11!1!!!

      Ooooh...hardcore!

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    6. Re:Quick Memo to the Team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, just two simple commands: ctrl-c ctrl-p.

      C-h k C-c C-p: C-c C-p is undefined

      What major mode are you using? I don't have riaa-mode, theft-mode nor copyright-infringement-mode.

      Oh, I get it! You're using vim...

  4. So the internet eats itself again by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's about time those RIAA lawyers went after the REAL criminals - those dang RIAA lawyers!!!

  5. Present Imperfect by gpronger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hitchhiker's Guide made a killing by copying information off of a cereal box, passing it through a wormhole to an early time, and then suing the cereal company.

    From this the term "Future Perfect" was dropped.

    I would propose that the term "Present Imperfect" is currently too fitting.

    1. Re:Present Imperfect by selven · · Score: 1

      You seem to be in an indicative mood today.

  6. Heh - even the Brits are not immune! by filesiteguy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I figured this to be occurring from a Wall Street company. But am surprised to see a British law firm. Of course, it sounds liek the old Shakespeare quote, "he doth protest too much." (I hope that isn't still copyrighted...)

    1. Re:Heh - even the Brits are not immune! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That'd be "the lady doth protest too much".

    2. Re:Heh - even the Brits are not immune! by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      No problem when you misquote it.

    3. Re:Heh - even the Brits are not immune! by filesiteguy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      LOL!

      I'm not sure how my comment is flamebait, but I suppose I should have checked out my source material better. I guess I'm just wiped from working on a bibliography (in MLA format) for my eight-year-old last night.

    4. Re:Heh - even the Brits are not immune! by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess I'm just wiped from working on a bibliography (in MLA format) for my eight-year-old last night.

      You should have just copied and pasted....

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  7. Evolution is slow by revjtanton · · Score: 1

    Is it me or does it seem like the idea of intellectual property is evolving? I guess all this legal round-about is simply the growing pains? To me it all just seems irrelevant (the situation, not the article). In the end we're just arguing over what to do with ourselves...kinda like debating in the mirror over which hand to service yourself with and this time each hand is wearing the other's glove?

    I can't tell if that's an accurate analogy but it talks about servicing oneself so I guess that's funny.

  8. This story is nothing... by hplus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but did you all hear that TorrentFreak noticed that an article apparently published by ACS Law was actually plagiarized from a variety of different sources, basically cut and pasted together with no credit or citations given at all? Remarkably, in some cases, articles with the exact opposite view of ACS Law were copied with paragraphs that just had an added sentence to the end which completely contradicted what the original article said.

    1. Re:This story is nothing... by ChrisMounce · · Score: 1

      This should be modded funny, right?

    2. Re:This story is nothing... by thedonger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I didn't hear it third hand like you, but I read on Slashdot that Techdirt reported that TorrentFreak noticed and article published by ACS Law blah blah blah.

      The Internets are creating circular blog references in order to control our minds.

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  9. Well, they could... by memphis.barbecue · · Score: 3, Funny

    take a cue from Slashdot...

    Plagiarized articles would be modded -1 redundant.

    1. Re:Well, they could... by Chlorine+Trifluoride · · Score: 2, Funny

      ACS articles are already modded -1 flamebait.

    2. Re:Well, they could... by He+who+knows · · Score: 2, Funny

      take a cue from Slashdot... Plagiarized articles would be modded -1 redundant

  10. amount demanded by geniice · · Score: 2, Interesting

    hmm £600 thats about what getty and corbis ask when people use their images without permission. It there some standard legal fee that adds up to that amount somewhere?

    1. Re:amount demanded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, it's modified usually by the media form. You know, text or images about what you say there. If it was music, it'd be in the range of 93 million.

  11. NOTHING to do with the American Const. Society by yourpusher · · Score: 1

    Except for that, very amusing.

  12. Patent the RIAA business model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sue them for infringement

    Now where's Advice Dog when you need him...

    1. Re:Patent the RIAA business model by calmofthestorm · · Score: 1

      I thought Haliburton did this awhile back? http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/10/1651236&from=rss

      Tooooooooosloooooooooooooooooooooooowwww

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  13. It seems that many of those by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Insightful

    who are trying most diligently to make mass money off of copyright claims, tend to know the least about copyright law and the way it is supposed to work.

  14. When one High rise in downtown Seattle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    has more lawyers then the entire country of Japan, I think I know were our problems really lay.

    1. Re:When one High rise in downtown Seattle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. We need more Japans and less high rises in Seattle.

  15. It's not just the RIAA any more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Monsanto has applied for a patent on pigs here and here

    They are also seeking to enforce these patents on independant farms across the globe.

    Don't just take my word for it - a small investment of your time will yield sufficient information to scare the hell out of anyone who can really see where this is going..

    The RIAA was just the start - and all they wanted was our money - Monsanto wants nothing less that to dominate the worlds food supply. And our silence will allow them to succeed.

  16. tion Business Model Expands, Plagiarizes Oth by deathtopaulw · · Score: 1

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  17. Takes one to know one... by nausicaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The trouble with law is lawyers." - Clarence Darrow :)

  18. Re:Torrent! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    I thought a TORRENT was a method of cutting and pasting stuff together from a variety of different sources with no citations at all.

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