Yeah I saw the Docker stuff but decided to set it up myself end to end because I use that server for a few other things internally, and I wasn't sure how the packaged solution would work with that. Overall I was pleased with the simplicity of setting it up. The only curveball I had to overcome was using apache (so as not to interfere with other working things) and my own cert. Reverse proxy to feed traffic back to the default Mattermost port and easy peasy.
I just put up a Mattermost server this week to replace Slack for my family messaging. I chose it over Jabber or IRC because the features it sports are a little friendlier to the less-tech-savy or younger (6 year old) user. The traffic is encrypted with my own cert, and the box is my own (physical, not AWS or anything) and it's encrypted. I know that to use push notifications on mobile you have to allow the notification to route through their services, but you can limit the info to simply be "person has sent you a message".
From what I could see in my research Mattermost seemed like it was private, easy, and had some nice features. I'd recommend it...unless of course I missed something on the privacy side...
I would discuss what skills are required and beneficial. Also the duos learning experiences in the profession, such as basic political issues and best practices. A good place to point them to learn more is WiBit.net
Check out WiBit.net. It's not really an open source project; but it is a site that, for free, teaches programming including C++ (also C, Objective-C, soon Java and C#). We have a forum where users can help each other learn. It's not a big thing, but that's one way to give back to the community. Not just on WiBit, but helping others learn what you have learned is a great way to give back overall:-)
Also by getting into a learning site you can meet others who are like you: they know a bit, but want to be involved with something bigger. You can get your own effort moving and maybe create your own open source project. We have a guy in our forums working on an open source game with other users of the site. Check that out here.
If you have a base its better than starting from 0. Now for my sales pitch:
Check out my site WiBit.net. We offer video computer programming tutorials in a linear and fun way. We break apart everything into 5 minute videos that are focused and comedy infused. You can skip right to things you want to learn, and skip over things you already know. We made it so you can learn if you have no experience, or skip right to what you're trying to figure out if you're experienced.
We have C,C++, and Obj-C for now. Java and C# are coming soon! Out content is free! We only ask that you sign up to download labs material!
End of sales pitch. Thank you for your time and for tolerating my excessive use of exclamation points.
How many times has it been "the year of Linux" over the years?
I don't know if it's the year of Linux or not, but I think with economic times being what they are it is certainly a good time to brush up on some skills and strengthen your resume.
Wow. Calm down. I'm not discussing anything with you being all jack-assish like you were there. You want BASIC to be the most amazing thing ever, fine: it is. WHATEVER. Your';re right, that is the wrong article and I posted it by mistake. The article, which is written clearly tongue in cheek and is a joke and I think that is pretty obvious, is a great article in it's own right. To call my friend an idiot simply because you've got your panties in a wad over BASIC is pretty lame. Enjoy your life from this point on knowing I said BASIC is the most amazing shit ever and I'm ashamed for ever having called it poo. And go f yourself.
I'm not arguing the merits of other languages so please don't think I'm putting anything down (well....I really hate BASIC), I'm arguing for a linear approach to teaching. To quote my site "Many modern languages today were inspired by C++. It is imperative to learn C++ before even attempting Java or C# or any other OOP language. Syntax structure for C++ is pretty much the same as C and other higher level languages follow similar syntax and program structure as C++" http://www.wibit.net/curriculum/the_c_lineage/programming_cpp
I definitely agree with you on the memory management point. All I am suggesting over-all is a straight shot approach. Start with C, then C++, then probably Objective C, then Java, on and on. Each language broaches concepts and don't repeat the taught concepts of the previous languages. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a tutorial or read a book and it's gone over what OOP is when this is something I should (usually) know already. I've not used Objective Pascal so I can't really comment on it, but I'm sure it came after C++ and therefore probably borrows concepts from it?
Ruby is awesome but I would content it isn't the best place to start. If you start there it might be harder to go to other concepts later. If you start with something like C++ it may be harder at first (maybe) but the concepts can be applied to other learning down the road.
Agreed about BASIC! It's poo.
Python is a great scripting language, but I've got to disagree with your ordering of learning. I would recommend doing C, then C++, then move on. Get a strong core in OOP concepts will help you learn any other language you want. http://wibit.net/
It's still important to get a good base going I think. Start with languages that did it first and understand the concepts then you're in a better place when you get to the more complicated functions. http://wibit.net/
In my experience backstory is important to put languages and learning in context. A lot of students are just running head-long into Java but if they started with C++, and were explained why it's important to start with C++, then many of the OOP concepts would come more naturally when learning something like Java. Then things like Python or PHP would come like second nature since their more complicated aspects are the OOP concepts they implement.
I think a main problem in making programming fun is that it's always so monotone and repetitive. I say if you learn OOP concepts when learning C++ why re-learn those concepts when learning Java? Get to the good stuff! Teach about what is unique to Java, the syntax difference, and move on! That's what we do at http://wibit.net/ and it's working for us.
Otherwise I'd say there is just a lack of creativity overall in programming learnin'. It's always the same "Hello World" projects teaching you how to build a Fibonacci sequencer or a tic-tac-toe game. Let's get real about this stuff and get linear and highlight the fun parts of development for the kiddies! Again, that's what we do at http://wibit.net/
I love this article and what the goal of this is! Programming and developing has been an absolute passion of mine for years, and it's been my career for at least half as long. My only qualm with this is that we're still dupping kids into this. Programming can be fun no matter what you're building! The problem, in my view, isn't teaching space invaders vs. a tip calculator; the problem is that the teaching gets monotonous, too many concepts get repeated course to course, and only about half (or less) of what is taught in schools is actually useful to get a job!
I'm not just complaining either. Together with a couple of guys I've put together a site http://wibit.net/ (as of this writing the site is down for maintenance, check http://twitter.com/wibit_usa for when we're back up, or to just check out some of the videos from now and older ones check out http://youtube.com/wibitnet:-) offering free video tutorials on how to get started in computer programming. We've done a few intro courses and C and C++ (23 hours of video my partners and I worked our asses off on) and we're doing this linearly. We're not repeating concepts, we're not monotone, we're telling jokes and making it entertaining! That's what it should be about, having fun with what you're building.
It is awesome that schools are trying to engage kids with this, I just think that can happen by offering them an engaging curriculum and not a gimmick (not to say game programming is a gimmick, but how they're pitching it they're using it as one).
Space travel creates new tech. New tech creates new jobs and new product to trade overseas. New tech is INCREDIBLY valuable. Why isn't this a point of interest in the space program? While I'd like to see people walk on Mars I will of course concede the point to those who comprised this panel as they are obviously more in-the-know than I am. We are capable of so much if we just learn to get over ourselves.
So they're spending $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil...on and on. Seriously...WTF?!
I'm sure this point has been made in one way or another but I want to make a simple point about Open Source and beginning programming. Open Source is driven by private projects.
If there is something you'd like to use (i.e. an application that interfaces with something or calculates something for you) and you don't know where to find it build it! That'll give you the experience AND that's how most Open Source projects start:) Even better, if you'd like to integrate something like Twitter or Facebook into something you'll get experience doing something for yourself using tools provided by someone else (so you get that mentor/lead dev kind of feel).
If dealing with web stuff isn't your cup of tea theres always Android dev or something like that. With Android you'll have the experience of using Eclipse and all that while developing for a simpler platform.
I'm only like 1 step ahead of you in all of this so I hope my advice helps. I'm explaining what I've noticed going through the same motions you are:)
To get into a programmer position isn't that hard and you're not on the front lines. Try to find a PL/SQL programmer position and you can advance into a DBA or engineer or of-the-such position from there w/out the Masters. Thats what I'm doing and its working out well so far:) Programmer pays more than help desk too!
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Yeah I saw the Docker stuff but decided to set it up myself end to end because I use that server for a few other things internally, and I wasn't sure how the packaged solution would work with that. Overall I was pleased with the simplicity of setting it up. The only curveball I had to overcome was using apache (so as not to interfere with other working things) and my own cert. Reverse proxy to feed traffic back to the default Mattermost port and easy peasy.
I just put up a Mattermost server this week to replace Slack for my family messaging. I chose it over Jabber or IRC because the features it sports are a little friendlier to the less-tech-savy or younger (6 year old) user. The traffic is encrypted with my own cert, and the box is my own (physical, not AWS or anything) and it's encrypted. I know that to use push notifications on mobile you have to allow the notification to route through their services, but you can limit the info to simply be "person has sent you a message". From what I could see in my research Mattermost seemed like it was private, easy, and had some nice features. I'd recommend it...unless of course I missed something on the privacy side...
I would discuss what skills are required and beneficial. Also the duos learning experiences in the profession, such as basic political issues and best practices. A good place to point them to learn more is WiBit.net
Check out WiBit.net. It's not really an open source project; but it is a site that, for free, teaches programming including C++ (also C, Objective-C, soon Java and C#). We have a forum where users can help each other learn. It's not a big thing, but that's one way to give back to the community. Not just on WiBit, but helping others learn what you have learned is a great way to give back overall :-)
Also by getting into a learning site you can meet others who are like you: they know a bit, but want to be involved with something bigger. You can get your own effort moving and maybe create your own open source project. We have a guy in our forums working on an open source game with other users of the site. Check that out here.
If you have a base its better than starting from 0. Now for my sales pitch:
Check out my site WiBit.net. We offer video computer programming tutorials in a linear and fun way. We break apart everything into 5 minute videos that are focused and comedy infused. You can skip right to things you want to learn, and skip over things you already know. We made it so you can learn if you have no experience, or skip right to what you're trying to figure out if you're experienced.
We have C,C++, and Obj-C for now. Java and C# are coming soon! Out content is free! We only ask that you sign up to download labs material!
End of sales pitch. Thank you for your time and for tolerating my excessive use of exclamation points.
If they're updating us that they lost it with Twitter they should've just had it check in with Foursquare when it landed so they could find it. Duh!
How many times has it been "the year of Linux" over the years?
I don't know if it's the year of Linux or not, but I think with economic times being what they are it is certainly a good time to brush up on some skills and strengthen your resume.
You can do that at WiBit.net
Dish Network picked up Blockbuster. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/06/us-blockbuster-dishnetwork-idUSTRE7351VA20110406 Also note the "Subsidiary of Dish Network" part here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_Inc.
Wow. Calm down. I'm not discussing anything with you being all jack-assish like you were there. You want BASIC to be the most amazing thing ever, fine: it is. WHATEVER. Your';re right, that is the wrong article and I posted it by mistake. The article, which is written clearly tongue in cheek and is a joke and I think that is pretty obvious, is a great article in it's own right. To call my friend an idiot simply because you've got your panties in a wad over BASIC is pretty lame. Enjoy your life from this point on knowing I said BASIC is the most amazing shit ever and I'm ashamed for ever having called it poo. And go f yourself.
http://www.wibit.net/blog/visual_basic_relevant_programming_language
I definitely agree with you on the memory management point. All I am suggesting over-all is a straight shot approach. Start with C, then C++, then probably Objective C, then Java, on and on. Each language broaches concepts and don't repeat the taught concepts of the previous languages. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a tutorial or read a book and it's gone over what OOP is when this is something I should (usually) know already. I've not used Objective Pascal so I can't really comment on it, but I'm sure it came after C++ and therefore probably borrows concepts from it?
You make some great points here! I couldn't agree more. C and C++, to me, are the best places to start.
Ruby is awesome but I would content it isn't the best place to start. If you start there it might be harder to go to other concepts later. If you start with something like C++ it may be harder at first (maybe) but the concepts can be applied to other learning down the road.
Agreed about BASIC! It's poo.
Python is a great scripting language, but I've got to disagree with your ordering of learning. I would recommend doing C, then C++, then move on. Get a strong core in OOP concepts will help you learn any other language you want.
http://wibit.net/
It's still important to get a good base going I think. Start with languages that did it first and understand the concepts then you're in a better place when you get to the more complicated functions.
http://wibit.net/
I think everyone should start with C and C++ and move on.
http://www.wibit.net/curriculum/the_c_lineage/programming_in_c
http://www.wibit.net/curriculum/the_c_lineage/programming_cpp
In my experience backstory is important to put languages and learning in context. A lot of students are just running head-long into Java but if they started with C++, and were explained why it's important to start with C++, then many of the OOP concepts would come more naturally when learning something like Java. Then things like Python or PHP would come like second nature since their more complicated aspects are the OOP concepts they implement.
I think a main problem in making programming fun is that it's always so monotone and repetitive. I say if you learn OOP concepts when learning C++ why re-learn those concepts when learning Java? Get to the good stuff! Teach about what is unique to Java, the syntax difference, and move on! That's what we do at http://wibit.net/ and it's working for us.
Otherwise I'd say there is just a lack of creativity overall in programming learnin'. It's always the same "Hello World" projects teaching you how to build a Fibonacci sequencer or a tic-tac-toe game. Let's get real about this stuff and get linear and highlight the fun parts of development for the kiddies! Again, that's what we do at http://wibit.net/
I love this article and what the goal of this is! Programming and developing has been an absolute passion of mine for years, and it's been my career for at least half as long. My only qualm with this is that we're still dupping kids into this. Programming can be fun no matter what you're building! The problem, in my view, isn't teaching space invaders vs. a tip calculator; the problem is that the teaching gets monotonous, too many concepts get repeated course to course, and only about half (or less) of what is taught in schools is actually useful to get a job!
I'm not just complaining either. Together with a couple of guys I've put together a site http://wibit.net/ (as of this writing the site is down for maintenance, check http://twitter.com/wibit_usa for when we're back up, or to just check out some of the videos from now and older ones check out http://youtube.com/wibitnet :-) offering free video tutorials on how to get started in computer programming. We've done a few intro courses and C and C++ (23 hours of video my partners and I worked our asses off on) and we're doing this linearly. We're not repeating concepts, we're not monotone, we're telling jokes and making it entertaining! That's what it should be about, having fun with what you're building.
It is awesome that schools are trying to engage kids with this, I just think that can happen by offering them an engaging curriculum and not a gimmick (not to say game programming is a gimmick, but how they're pitching it they're using it as one).
Why not just say it's running Android? I don't see a tablet running Android being a victory for Linux. Is the nook a Linux victory too then?
Space travel creates new tech. New tech creates new jobs and new product to trade overseas. New tech is INCREDIBLY valuable. Why isn't this a point of interest in the space program? While I'd like to see people walk on Mars I will of course concede the point to those who comprised this panel as they are obviously more in-the-know than I am. We are capable of so much if we just learn to get over ourselves.
Then why are we all knocking up the bar skanks instead of our actual hot girlfriends!? Sheesh....stupid PBR...
So they're spending $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil on a site to tell you they spent $18mil...on and on. Seriously...WTF?!
I'm sure this point has been made in one way or another but I want to make a simple point about Open Source and beginning programming. Open Source is driven by private projects.
If there is something you'd like to use (i.e. an application that interfaces with something or calculates something for you) and you don't know where to find it build it! That'll give you the experience AND that's how most Open Source projects start :) Even better, if you'd like to integrate something like Twitter or Facebook into something you'll get experience doing something for yourself using tools provided by someone else (so you get that mentor/lead dev kind of feel).
If dealing with web stuff isn't your cup of tea theres always Android dev or something like that. With Android you'll have the experience of using Eclipse and all that while developing for a simpler platform.
I'm only like 1 step ahead of you in all of this so I hope my advice helps. I'm explaining what I've noticed going through the same motions you are :)
I've been in a coma for 12 years and i didn't even know there was a climate! Couldn't we just kill the climate and then it wouldnt be a problem?
To get into a programmer position isn't that hard and you're not on the front lines. Try to find a PL/SQL programmer position and you can advance into a DBA or engineer or of-the-such position from there w/out the Masters. Thats what I'm doing and its working out well so far :) Programmer pays more than help desk too!