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GM's Hummer Brand To Be Sold To a Chinese Company

An anonymous reader writes in to note that GM will sell its Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. of China, a little-known industrial firm. For now, the deal will save 3,000 jobs in the US. (The military HumVees are made by a separate company and are not involved in this deal.) "As part of the deal, some GM plants will continue to build the Hummer brand for the new owner, at least for awhile. The company said its Shreveport, La., plant will keep building Hummers for the new owner until at least 2010. ... GM said it sold 5,013 Hummers worldwide in the first quarter, down 62% from the 13,050 that it sold in the same period the prior year." AP coverage has more details on GM's planned divestitures, including the shedding of Pontiac, Saturn, and Saab.

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  1. An excellent company name by hattig · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well if any company was to own the Hummer brand, it should have a name including "Heavy Industrial Machinery Co." in it.

  2. Yay by Alethes · · Score: 4, Funny

    I love hummers, and I don't care if I get it from an American or a Chinese.

    1. Re:Yay by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Giggety!

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    2. Re:Yay by neoform · · Score: 4, Funny

      You love being able to watch Madagascar while driving and merge without looking?

      Yeah!!! Rumsfeld!!!

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    3. Re:Yay by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      American Culture: Made in China

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    4. Re:Yay by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      2011 Hummer will be 100% superglue-resistant plastic with lead paint and genuine imitation plastic leather. A fitting end for a gas-munching behemoth.

      So it will actually evolve into the Canyenaro.

    5. Re:Yay by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The American economy recovered from the great depression by draining UK's coffers via the lend-lease act. That recovery turned into a boom which lasted nearly 50 years.

      The current Chinese boom is a result of draining America's coffers. Its only a matter of time before the Chinese economy becomes self sustaining and they won't need us anymore. I'm afraid of what will happen when China becomes the new superpower and America takes up France's position of Ex-Superpower Turned Whiney Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys...

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    6. Re:Yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So it will actually evolve into the Canyenaro.

      That's CANYONERO!

      Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
      smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

      Canyonero! Canyonero!

      Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
      It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!

      Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!
      [Krusty:] Hey Hey

      The Federal Highway comission has ruled the
      Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving.

      Canyonero!

      12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
      65 tons of American Pride!

      Canyonero! Canyonero!

      Top of the line in utility sports,
      Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

      Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

      She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
      She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

      Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)

      Drive Canyonero!

      Woah Canyonero!

      Woah!

    7. Re:Yay by theodicey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lend-lease during WWII was free for the British.

      Postwar reconstruction, however, was not.

      Britain was nearly bankrupt for the next decade -- there was still rationing five years after the war. And the US made out extremely well -- the British even had to devalue their currency while they were borrowing money. They were less able to invest in infrastructure than the French and Germans, and the long term consequences for British industry (the world's most advanced from about 1850-1930) were severe.

      The point stands -- international lending can be quite powerful.

    8. Re:Yay by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Think of the consequences, of an oppressive state, that willingly attacks anyone (esp. cyber attacks), blackmails its neighbours (over North Korea), and completely ignores any laws on copyright

      Sorry, could you specify whether you're referring to China, or the US. Hard to differentiate on those criteria. If you'd said "invades or bombs foreign countries on a whim", "kidnaps, imprisons and tortures nationals of any country without due process", I might have guessed.

      Sorry, couldn't resist that straight line.

  3. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by mu51c10rd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Military Humvees are made by AM General, who sold the rights to the civilian versions back in 99 to GM I believe. This won't affect the military production lines in Indiana.

  4. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Are they simply licensing the brand and making completely different vehicles to Military Specs?

    From what I'm told, AM General makes the HumVee, which for the original Hummer, was sold to GM as-is (well, a stripped down version anyhow). GM then painted them, added luxuries and such and then sold them to the public. That's why the H2 and H3 were so different compared to the original H1 - GM does not own the design of the H1 at all - they merely resold the hardware after some modifications. The H2 and H3 were original GM designs.

    So no, the Chinese are not getting military information out of it, other than perhaps how to add leather seats and cupholders to an existing H1.

  5. Great news! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    My goal of getting a hummer from a cute Asian girl is that much closer to completion!

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  6. Heads aspode by microcars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    at the gas station in Wisconsin where I got "told" by a guy bitching about my Toyota.

    Despite the fact that my truck is built in Texas by Americans with 85% US content apparently the "profits" all go back to "Japan" SO THERE! (never mind Toyota being on the NYSE and the "profits" go to the shareholders...)
    I can't imagine what this guy will do now when a new Hummer - built in Louisiana by Americans, but owned by the Chinese - pulls up to the pump!

    I would love to be there when it happens though! ack ack ack....

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    1. Re:Heads aspode by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reminds me of the "Buy American" bumper sticker I saw on a Ford Courier... sort of makes you want to pull the driver over and explain to them that a Courier was just a Mazda B2000 with different badges and a higher price tag. Hondas are made in Marysville, Ohio with electrical parts from Stanley -- there is no such thing as a truly "American" or "Japanese" car anymore.

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    2. Re:Heads aspode by value_added · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder if it's just the "Buy American" bumper stickers that are laughable.

      There was a spot on the news last night where a retired couple who invested their retirement savings in GM bonds were interviewed. The husband was a tool and die maker in the auto industry, and both the husband and wife considered it their patriotic duty to invest in America. And if the American flag seen waving in the background was any indication, advocate the same to others.

      Needless to say their investments were wiped out.

      The post-war industrial strength of America may have existed for their parents when they retired (and their parents before them), but an investment strategy that involves a troubled industry and a company that routinely posted huge losses is indicative more of nostalgic yearnings than common sense.

      My own take is that the couple's situation could be considered laughable, as in "I invested in America and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.", but they didn't even get a T-shirt.

    3. Re:Heads aspode by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ya well people just want something to be stupid and patriotic about I guess. With the multi-national nature of the world these days, it gets rather silly to identify a company as a given nationality anyhow. Like Intel for example. It is an American company in that it is headquartered in the US and started there. Ok, but that isn't the only place its operations are. You can very well buy an Intel chip that was designed in the US, fabricated in Ireland, packaged in Costa Rica, and then sold in Canada. They've got various parts of their operation all over. While most of their fabs are in the US (one is in Ireland, two in Israel, 12 in the US) all their packaging and testing centres are outside the US. Likewise their R&D are in the US, but also Israel, China, Korea, Russia and so on.

      So is Intel really an "American" company? They really seem more global.

      They are not alone in this. That's how many major companies work. As you noted, the Japanese car makers are heavily producing in America these days. Makes a lot of sense, there are skilled workers, lots of land, good natural resources and a large consumer base. Why spend the money shipping the things over from Japan is they are mostly sold in the US? For that matter, some lines are completely produces in the US, even the ones sold in Japan.

      While I understand the desire to protect American jobs, that doesn't mean the company has to be headquarted in America. There are American companies that produce nothing in the US, and their are foreign companies that produce lots in the US. Really they are all global companies and their country of origin is largely incidental.

    4. Re:Heads aspode by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As another interesting statistic, it's important to point out the the US's GNP is still slightly higher than its GDP.

      In other words, the value of goods produced in the US is roughly equal to the value of goods produced by US-owned companies and American citizens. For every foreign-owned factory in the US, there's another US-owned factory someplace else in the world.

      (Of course, as with any economic statistic, it's not quite that simple. However, the fact that both figures are roughly equivalent is a good sign)

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  7. [Insert Small-Asian-Penis Joke Here] by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just kinda writes itself, really.

  8. Re:Are they going to still be sold here? by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The "bankruptcy" is really just a wealth (for lack of a better word) transfer. And by transfer, I mean theft. Contract law was ignored when deciding what secured debt holders deserved. Tim Geithner's hand is shoved up the banks, GM, and Chrysler like a ventriloquist dummy, so they can do nothing but nod their heads. Not that the banks mind too much -- the revolving door between treasury, federal reserve, and the investment banks looks like a bukake session with you and i in the middle.

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  9. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget the other modifications from the Tahoe. You know, the extra weight, woeful aerodynamics and awful use of interior space. It's kind of like an inverse-Tardis, it's smaller on the inside than it looks on the outside.

  10. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Informative

    The H2 and H2 are HMMV-styled bodies on standard GMC truck frames and running gear.

  11. The missing part? by hackingbear · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original post has

    Before you worry about soldiers of US army and marines riding on Chinese made jeeps, you should also note that GM China has made recorded sales in China, despite of its parent's woe in the US. I personally did notice quite a lot more Buick's running in the city of Shenzhen than on the streets of California. When I was over there, I owned a Buick myself which was made in China but with US-made engines and transmissions; whereas i own a Japanese car here in California. Strange world.

    Why is it edited away? Is / . censoring our post, because the news of american company doing well in China does not fit the site's editorial agenda?

  12. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    even what American's fondly call beer.

    I'll have you know, America produce quite a bit of very good beer. Show up in seattle and I'll introduce you to some.

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  13. This is a warning to those other industries by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Keep plowing ahead ignoring your customers.
    After all, they'll buy what you damn well want them to buy, right? Wrong. GM had piss-poor leadership, management with no vision. They kept making product that no one wanted to buy. The market handled GM alright.

    Now, just think if GM had treated every potential customer that entered a dealership as a criminal.

    Watch out RIAA/MPAA your industries are next. The market will handle you as well.

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  14. Re:So, who makes HumVees? by LoRdTAW · · Score: 4, Informative

    H2 = GMC Jimmy AKA Chevy Tahoe chassis
    H3 = GMC Envoy AKA Chevy Trailblazer chassis

  15. Re:5,013? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah calling a Hummer an off roader is pretty funny. You would think here in AR, land of the redneck, there would be plenty of those fugly things, but the only ones you ever see are being driven by doctors who not only never go off road but would have a coronary if they even got them dirty. The off roaders and the rest of us just laugh at those things and make "sorry about your penis" jokes.

    Here it is the F150, the Ram and the Ranger. The Vulcan V6 Rangers actually are very popular for the off roaders here. They are light enough they rarely get stuck and have plenty of power and the cast iron V6 is tough as hell. I know I wouldn't give up my Vulcan Ranger for one of those sissy new Hummers if you paid me. The new ones look like a soccer mom ride, not a mud slinger.

    I say let the Chinese have the damned things. Those things just don't compare to a well built Ford or Dodge truck. The only Hummers I ever see are being driven by doctors and lawyers who are afraid of scratching the paint, about like those Lincoln Navigators being driven by their wives. Why anybody would want a vehicle that sucked that much gas and cost so much they were afraid to really get anything done in it more than carrying groceries is beyond me. Good riddance.

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  16. Re:5,013? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah calling a Hummer an off roader is pretty funny.

    It's nothing more than a marketing trick based on association with the military HMMWV, which worked brilliantly. The humvee is a vehicle to make its predecessor jeep proud. It has an angled independent suspension that puts the gear box, drive shaft and other parts well off the ground for huge clearance. It's a great off-road vehicle, reliable and rugged.

    Civilian versions are nothing like that, since they're based off completely different chassis. But hey, they look pretty similar if and if you never take them off the road you probably won't even notice. So it's kinda like you own military hardware! How bad-ass!

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