Fedora 11 Is Now Available

rexx mainframe writes "Fedora 11 is now available on BitTorrent. Fedora 11 offers ext4, a 20-second startup, and the latest GNOME, KDE and XFCE releases. Firefox 3.5 and Thunderbird 3's latest pre-releases are available as well. Fedora 11 features Presto, a yum plugin that reduces bandwidth consumption drastically by downloading only binary differences between updates. It also features Openchange for interoperability with Microsoft Exchange. There are new security enhancements, improved and upgraded development tools, and cutting-edge features in areas such as virtualization."

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It's soo cutting edge

[networkconsultant]

I hurt myself trying to install it.

Re:It's soo cutting edge

[rbrausse]

and this is the reason why I use it on my private laptop: I want to know what will hit my servers with Debian stable in 4 years :)

Ho ho.

[gbarules2999]

I wish I had a spare partition to install this on. The Beta and Preview releases were good, and they seem to be interested in trying a few new things.

The release announcement makes we wonder, though.

Re:Ho ho.

[melted]

That's what virtualization is for. I always install a new OS in a VM first. This time around, doing this led me to switching a couple of servers from Fedora to Ubuntu Server.

Re:Ho ho.

[MSG]

Fedora 11 has been out for two hours. You've already downloaded it, evaluated it, and switched some of your servers to a different distribution?

You work faster than anyone I've ever met. I am humbled by your awesome ability.

Re:Ho ho.

[erroneus]

I am a long time Redhat user. Have used Redhat since 4.2 and continued using it when it changed names to "Fedora." I'll be doing my install of Fedora 11 tonight I hope... too many things to do today. But one thing is certain -- I would never use Fedora to serve as a server. I know there are people who do, and god bless their hearts because they enable whatever they find to be included in with Redhat Enterprise Linux. The reason? No long term support. Ubuntu offers an LTS release every so often while also offering more cutting edge stuff as well. But Fedora is not exactly a cutting edge distro either. It is usually quite stable... people on the cutting edge use Rawhide.

So with all that said, I use CentOS (and variants) on the server side and Fedora on the desktop. I have used CentOS on the desktop and it's okay, but it's pretty dull by comparison to Fedora for obvious reasons.

Without long term support, a server will be a lot more work than it needs to be. I recall stepping into a role where the company's web site was hosted on a Fedora 4 server. I was shocked. I got that stuff rectified as soon as possible... Fedora 4 support has long since expired so there was no way to keep it updated. I moved to new hosting and put it all under CentOS. Done and done for years to come. Well, that's not entirely true -- I don't work there any more and I know the outsource company they hired isn't smart enough to manage those servers. (Why is it that almost all IT outsource services are Microsoft partnered and all but refuse anything to do with Linux or Mac OS?)

20 seconds? Mama mia

[Garbad Ropedink]

A 20 second boot? What happens after that?

Re:20 seconds? Mama mia

[gbarules2999]

These boots are made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do...after twenty seconds the boots are gonna walk all over you.

Fedora 11 is now available on BitTorrent

[Anonymous Coward]

Damn pirates.

Too many releases!

[pablo_max]

Seriously, why does linux have so many release cycles. That's one thing I didnt like about Ubuntu. It took me forever to get it running just the way I wanted and by then a new version was out and I had the pressure to upgrade..and of course..I had to set up everything again since invariably, it broke something.
It's funny how many people here bitched that windows was coming out with Win 7 so soon after vista, but they don't mind that linux seems to release something every couple months depending on the distro. Odd.

Re:Too many releases!

[Ex-Linux-Fanboy]

why does linux have so many release cycles

Because Fedora is a cutting-edge testing release that's done about twice a year. The RedHat Linux way is to take software that Microsoft would only make available to internal testers in Redmond, and make it available to the general public as "Fedora".

If you want something with fewer release cycles, you're best bet is Red Hat Enterprise Linux (which every three years or so, takes a release of Fedora, declares it stable, renames it "RHEL", and updates that version of Fedora for seven years). If you're too cheap to buy RHEL, you can get CentOS, which is a free derivative of RHEL. CentOS 5.3 is the Linux equivalent of "CentOS 5, service pack 3" [1]

[1] Well, except that adding new drivers to older releases of CentOS is harder than it is to do with Microsoft Windows. What can I say, Linux isn't perfect.

Re:Too many releases!

[migla]

Moving quickly is the biggest strength of open source development. That and choice, so that'd be the two big strengths of open source. And the community.

Yes, our three main weapons are speed, choice, community and an almost fanatical devotion to freedom.

take a screenshot tour

[viralMeme]

Fedora 11 Screenshot Tour

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I like it except it doesn't have X feeture :)

This will probably become RHEL6

[Ex-Linux-Fanboy]

This release of Fedora is the release that will probably be the basis for the next release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). This is a good thing, because I like using commercial software on Linux (read: I like using VMware Player to run virtual machines), and right now RHEL 5 does not run with the 2007-era hardware I have, being based on a version of Fedora from 2006.

Once this becomes RHEL, commercial ISVs (Independent Software Vendors) will start supporting the release and both the hardware I use and the commercial software I need to be productive (sorry guys, I find VirtualBox a lot more buggy and less intuitive to use than VMware) will be supported in a version of Linux that will have the stability I need.

Can anyone confirm that RHEL6 will be based on Fedora 11?

Re:The stats are looking good

[inode_buddha]

Although I still prefer FTP or HTTP, I've learned over the years to wait a few days before downloading. It also gives some time to see what the early adopters say, usually right here on slash.

Yay, KMS!

[MostAwesomeDude]

Fedora 11 is the first release of any major distribution to include kernel mode-setting (KMS) for Intel GMA, ATI Radeon, and nVidia TNT2/GeForce chipsets. This is an excellent step forward in terms of moving off of crufty old graphics APIs and being able to use video cards in a more uniform, reliable manner.

Preupgrade

[ichthus]

I just used preupgrade to move from fc10 on my Samsung NC10 netbook. As I type this, Anaconda is installing the packages for upgrade.

So far, this upgrade is going smoothly. According to the release notes, I should see an improvement in battery life. We'll see...

20 Second Startup Time

[TheStonepedo]

Is that on my grandmother's Pentium II laptop or my boss's multi-core workstation? Startup time seems like an arbitrary statistic for a Linux distribution that should run on a broad range of outdated and current hardware.