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Ray Ozzie Calls Google Wave "Anti-Web"

TropicalCoder writes "Ray Ozzie says that Google Wave is 'anti-Web,' by which he seems to mean that it is too complex for its own good. In the video he complains about its complexity in relation to Microsoft's Live Mesh: 'If you have something, that by its very nature is very complex, with many goals... then you need open source to have many instances of it because nobody will be able to do an independent implementation of it.' That's its weakness to Ozzie, apparently — that this complexity that can only be overcome by open source. While he heaps high praise on the Google team that came up with this, he feels that the advantage of Microsoft's approach is that '...by decomposing things to be simpler, you don't need open source.' The Register's author summarizes it like this: 'In a way, this is classic Microsoft meets what is emerging as classic Google. Microsoft gives you an integrated stack but all the moving parts are anchored on a single company's vision. Google frees you to work out the bits yourself, but you must rely on your own smarts or those of your chosen tools.'"

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  1. What's this!? by Cheney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft praised on the altar of Slashdot!? Blasphemy!

  2. Snooore by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in: Microsoft employee claims that Microsoft tool is the best and their closed-source approach is the only way to go.

    1. Re:Snooore by merreborn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Talk about being anti-web. The wave google tool is something you can use on the web. The Microsoft tool is something you have to download and then install before you can even start using.

      Doesn't that make firefox anti-web?

      Absolutely. Firefox should have been implemented as an activeX plugin.

      No, wait. DHTML and javascript. And written to only run in IE6.

  3. How about criticizing it for unoriginality? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wave is a total ripoff of Sharepoint, which is a ripoff of Notes and other collaboration software.

    If Ozzie really wanted to criticize Google, he should have gone after their unoriginality. Then again, such a criticism may bite him back.

  4. In other news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ford employee says the new BMW M3 is an okay car if all you care about are speed, style, and reliability, but if are cheap and want something to compliment your "awsome mullett" (sic) then a Ford Mustang is really your only choice.

  5. Another notable Ray Ozzie quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shhaaaaaaron!

  6. Quel Suprise. by senorpoco · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other News, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer issued a joint statement saying "in their independent opinion as leading figures in the software industry, Live Mesh kicks Wave's ass."

  7. Re:No surprises here by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about:

    "Well I am fully vested and have just cashed out. I must say we suck, I mean we are STILL playing catchup on the web and can't put together a clean OS architecture. In fact, The only was we could improve is if you all went to goggle and we had to really think about what we do to compete.
    Well, good night, and Steve? I bolted the chairs down."

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  8. Re:Come on... by kylben · · Score: 2, Funny

    But It's Not Google

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  9. Re:Google's quantum leap by Tetsujin · · Score: 5, Funny

    The latest analogy that I came up with is one of a Jet Engine....

    Your upstart "Jet Engine analogies" are putting trustworthy, hard-working American "Car Analogies" out of work!

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  10. Re:Even a stopped clock can tell the right time by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft: if you want to beat Google, find a way to develop a completely open search ranking system.

    Ballmer: What's that? You need a chair flung at your head? I could have sworn you just said something about "open skull". I'll fucking kill you and your little Google too!

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  11. Re:Ray Ozzie by idontgno · · Score: 5, Funny

    who Ray Ozzie is - he was the creator of Lotus Notes.

    For this crime alone, he should be punished extravagantly. Or at least, regarded with skepticism.

    I'm not sayin' Outlook's much better, but still...

    signed,
    idontgno, current Lotus Notes sufferer^w user

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  12. Re:I know it's not the done thing... by salesgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah ha, but it also has built-in remote desktop. And you can invite other people to have access to your remotely shared files.

    So... it's syncing cloud storage, and a remote control system thrown in.

    I'm waiting for "No one expects Live Mesh... our chief weapons being 5 gigs and syncing... and remote desktop with syncing...

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  13. I prefeer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    .... recursive acronyms:

    BING It's Not Google

  14. Re:Even a stopped clock can tell the right time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Porn ?