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DIY 18-ft.-High Robotic Exoskeleton

Hacx sends along a piece from PopSci that begins "Carlos Owens had handled all kinds of machines as an army mechanic, but he always dreamed of using those skills for one project: his own 'mecha,' a giant metal robot that could mirror the movements of its human pilot. Owens, 31, began building an 18-foot-tall, one-ton prototype at his home in Wasilla, Alaska, in 2004. Working without blueprints, he first built a full-scale model out of wood. Moving on to steel, he had to devise a hydraulics system that would provide precisely the right leverage and range of movement. He settled on a complex network of cables and hydraulic cylinders that can make the mecha raise its arms, bend its knees, and even do a sit-up. ... He foresees mechas having uses in the military and the construction industry, but acknowledges that right now they're best suited to entertainment. The first application he has in mind: mecha-vs.-mecha battles, demolition-derby style."

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  1. Mecha Palin! by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wasila, Alaska? The killer app for this device is to put a set of high-heels on it and have it run as the GOP Veep candidate in 2012 - all puny mortals bow down before Mecha Palin, or be crushed!

    Only the Obamabot can save us!

    1. Re:Mecha Palin! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wasila, Alaska? The killer app for this device is to put a set of high-heels on it and have it run as the GOP Veep candidate in 2012 - all puny mortals bow down before Mecha Palin, or be crushed!

      Nah, Giant Mecha Palin should run for Prez and her VP can be La Pequena Palin

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  2. Too big. by onion2k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole idea of mecha robots is plain wrong. It's not necessary to make an exoskeleton that big. In a military (or 'gaming') situation it'd just present a bigger target. All you need is a minimal amount of armour with enough power to augment picking up large amounts of weight, and possibly some system to dampen recoil if you're holding a projectile weapon.

    (Oh dear. I'm actually arguing that mecha robots are a poor weapons system design on the internet. Is this what my life has become? Maybe I should go outside?)

    1. Re:Too big. by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, years arguing on the internet have left your muscles too weak to function.

      You'd need some sort of mechanised exoskeleton before thinking about venturing outside.

    2. Re:Too big. by Renraku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They are actually a poor system.

      You don't get decent speed or armor, you don't get awesome firepower like a 120mm cannon.

      Basically, powered exoskeletons are not strong enough to withstand an RPG attack, aren't fast enough to dodge them, and aren't armed enough to deal with anything beyond a few AK-47 wielders.

      How do we fix it? Easy. Make them pretty much immune to small arms fire. Make them faster. Adopt tactics to cover each other. Implement scanners and other intelligence devices so you know where the enemy is coming from and maybe where those IEDs are hidden.

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    3. Re:Too big. by Bluesman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe we could have one with large treads on it so that it could cover large distances quickly, and strong plating and explosive armor so that it would be immune to all but the largest projectile. And why stop at one operator? It could be large enough to hold a small crew of people who could operate the machine as a team, and possibly provide some sort of situational awareness/intelligence function.

      All you'd need then is a turret with a large cannon on it and you'd have the perfect military land robot.

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    4. Re:Too big. by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like that idea. Maybe each member of the crew should operate a smaller, individual vehicle that can clamp onto the mecha's main structure, acting as its "arms" or "legs" or "head". Perhaps some sort of rallying cry would help synchronize the assembly process, something alongs the line of "VOLTROOOOOOOOOON"

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  3. Re:Damnit, that looks awesome. I want a video of i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This seems really familiar.

    I'm pretty sure this is the same mech a couple of years back. He's probably mad a little progress since then.

  4. Re:Aliens! by rastilin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There have been some military projects, but the problem is that anything which can lift over a tonne one-handed requires a power supply too big to attach to the suit itself.

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  5. ...video of a prototype by gadget+junkie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In Here there's a video of an experimental Raytheon exoskeleton for the US army. It seems that we're a long way from seeing something like "starship troopers" especially because there's a conspicous umbilical cord in the Video, probably for the external power source and computer controls. While Moore's law can cope with computing requirements, there's nothing similar in power production, and especially in power density.
    Novody would want a battery powered exoskeleton with a 10 minutes charge.

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    1. Re:...video of a prototype by Missing_dc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lockheed Martin has been working on something vaguely similar, and while Ray's has that umbilicus, LM's is self powered.

      http://www.societyofrobots.com/robotforum/index.php?topic=7306.0

      One of their versions was powered by a small generator that ran on jet fuel.

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  6. Re:Aliens! by mrhthepie · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're called Fork Lift trucks. In reality, Mechs/walkers are never a good solution. Hard to balance and inefficient. In Mecha anime/manga they usually make up some pseudosience as to why they're using walkers and not tanks and planes.

  7. On mecha, and exoskeletons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are approaching the idea of mecha ass-first.

    These proposed engineers of mayhem mostly treat "BIG FUCKING ROBOT OH YEAH" as an end in itself. In any semi-realistic context mecha should be seen as something that naturally evolves into being as agile, versatile exoskeletons are made progressively more powerful; you have to work up to big with a design where everything else works superbly, you can't work from big down. Otherwise any advantage gained by size will be hugely offset by the sad fact that the thing moves like a turtle in molasses.

    Mecha become reasonable when they can move and maneuver with the same agility as a human being -- think Eva, which can run, dodge and so on with considerable finesse. (Here's waiting for those carbon nanotube aerogel artificial muscles, by the way.) But since we can't even do that for a human-sized exoskeleton, any effort to build a mecha that's not severely dysfunctional is going to be impotent.

    1. Re:On mecha, and exoskeletons by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a reason why there are no one-tonne bipeds in nature, and no ten-tonne land animals altogether.

      There used to be plenty.

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  8. Found some videos of it by parcanman · · Score: 5, Informative
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  9. Red eyes!! by tikram · · Score: 4, Funny

    It has red eyes! It means it's a decepticon! RUN FOR YOU LIVES!!!!!!!!!

  10. Creators Website by axek · · Score: 2, Informative

    The website for Carlos Owens is http://neogentronyx.com/, where he has a few more photos and other projects...

  11. Re:Aliens! by rastilin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I did say "power", but what I was referring to was the systems meant to support the suit's hydraulics. It would be more like a hose.

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  12. Re:Damnit, that looks awesome. I want a video of i by EdZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    And according to his site, he's managed to spend $5000 on a valve. This guy has been around for a long while, made plenty of wild claims, and demonstrated absolutely nothing. Several times in the past he's attempted to sell this ting on ebay, and failed every time. He's basically a laughing stock.

  13. Re:Aliens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd say human design is also hard to balance and inefficient yet, that's how it turned out after hundreds of millions of years of evolution.

  14. Re:Aliens! by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well if you want to be able to go long distances you'd probably want all the hydraulics stuff self contained on the unit itself otherwise you're going to have to deal with some crazy pressures (or very large diameter hoses I suppose) and a lot of power to drive the fluid. I'm not a hydraulics expert but the company I do IT for design and manufacture dredgers that use hydraulics. Our normal dredgers would probably operate down to about 500 metres at most, not entirely sure, but we are designing a deep water (max of 3000 metres) system that has a self contained hydraulics system powered electrically from the surface. Obviously that would add a lot of extra bulk and complexity and it would probably be better just to use a bunch of electric motors instead?

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  15. Re:Damnit, that looks awesome. I want a video of i by Hubbell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He completed and was trying to sell the mech suit like 4 years ago. This story is almost as old as the internet itself. Slashdot's editors are really slacking these days.

  16. Re:Aliens! by nyctopterus · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's very difficult to evolve wheels, and the concrete floors/roads that make them so efficient.

  17. I hope he's limited its movement range.. by cheros · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he hasn't built in any restrictions I predict a posthumous Darwin Award the moment the guy tries to absently scratch his nuts :-)

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  18. Re:Damnit, that looks awesome. I want a video of i by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's probably mad a little progress since then.

    Absolutely. He used to be a raving lunatic.
    Another few years and he should be quite sane.

    (ps: use commas, your sentences are hard to read)

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  19. Bad weapon, but useful for construction? by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree with you, in the context of a weapon. But consider how useful this could be for construction. The ability to lift large objects (like beams) into position could be quite useful.

    A four-legged version might be more useful, however.

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  20. Re:Damnit, that looks awesome. I want a video of i by jgtg32a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, but that may have just been the author of the article saying that he designed and built it from scratch, he wasn't following any plans that someone else made

  21. "Loader-Lifter" implemented in real life by StCredZero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    By Sarcos corporation. This one is a bit smaller, and has no grippers yet, but the arms and legs function. IN fact, the arms and legs are *more* agile and human-like than in the Aliens movie!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhj3Z9o6t0g

  22. All it needs is a basket of A-bombs on the back by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then, I'll be ready to invest. Or run. "ALASKA'S LIBERATION IS IMMINENT!"

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  23. Re:Not 18 feet... by undercanopy · · Score: 3, Funny

    umm...the shot was taken from a lowered perspective to be able to get the mecha and the people in the frame while still being close enough to discern who they are

    similarly, i'm pretty sure this picture isn't definitive proof that the statue of liberty is only 15 ft tall

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  24. Ob Meme by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Funny

    I for one... oh nevermind.

  25. Re:Aliens! by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Concrete roads don't exist where the military often wants to be. That's why tanks were developed. Get something that goes over terrain better than a tank, and you would have a great defense contract.

  26. Re:Aliens! by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Informative

    Soviet troops

    Huh? The Sovs had their hands full with Jerry, and didn't declare war on Japan until Aug. 8, 1945.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

            * Khingan-Mukden Offensive Operation (August 9, 1945 - September 2, 1945)
            * Harbin-Kirin Offensive Operation (August 9, 1945 - September 2, 1945)
            * Sungari Offensive Operation (August 9, 1945 - September 2, 1945)
            * South Sakhalin Army Group Offensive Operation (August 11, 1945 - August 25, 1945)
            * Seisin Landing Operation (August 13, 1945 - August 16, 1945)
            * Kurile Landing Operation (August 18, 1945 - September 1, 1945)

    Point being, the Japanese were rolled over by Soviet armor. Armor didn't really play as much of a role in the island-hopping campaigns and so their infantry was able to put up more of a fight in the jungles. In the open against tanks, they were woefully unprepared.

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