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Nokia Developed Wireless Power-Harvesting Phones

Al writes "An engineer from Nokia's UK research labs says that the company is developing technology that can harvest ambient electromagnetic radiation to keep a cellphone going. The researcher says that his group is working towards a prototype that could harvest up to 50 milliwatts of power — enough to slowly recharge a phone that is switched off. He says current prototypes can harvest 3 to 5 milliwatts. It will require a wideband receiver capable of capturing signals from between 500 megahertz and 10 gigahertz — a range that encompasses many different radio communication signals. Other researchers have developed devices that can harvest more modest power from select frequencies. A team from Intel previously developed a compact sensor capable of drawing 6 microwatts from a 1.0-megawatt TV antenna 4.1 kilometers away."

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  1. Crystal radio by davidwr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Crystal radio sets harvested enough power to drive an earphone-sized speaker.

    In some circumstances, florescent light bulbs can draw enough power from a nearby power source to light up.

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    1. Re:Crystal radio by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new Ad-Supported Wireless Power Ducks.

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    2. Re:Crystal radio by fractoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They're not "drawing" power from the antenna. They're just scooping up some of the power that's already being splashed around.

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  2. Re:Why not solar? by sznupi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where do you put your mobile phone when not in use?

    Exactly.

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  3. Re:Crazy Idea - during his time... by victim · · Score: 4, Funny

    They are asking about radio, not noodles.

  4. Harvest motion energy as well by heretic108 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Shouldn't be too hard to harvest energy from changes of momentum and orientation, similar to how many mechanical watches have for years been able to wind themselves.

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  5. Charge it in the microwave oven by radionerd · · Score: 4, Funny

    10 seconds on high should be plenty

  6. Re:Why not solar? by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll stop putting my phone in my pocket the moment someone proves that this "possible harm" is anything more than luddite hysteria.

  7. Henrich Hertz by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Another great example as to how Tesla has shaped our future. Truly ahead of his time by leaps and bounds.

    I know Tesla is a posterboy for the Slashdot community, but I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Hertz. Hertz was responsible for the discovery that you could generate and detect radio waves.

    That lead to the use of radio for communications, which is why such a modern device as the article describes. Tesla envisioned pumping energy into the air via dedicated stations. I don't think he envisioned a situation where we would be pumping so much energy into the air for communications, that there would be usable power as a byproduct.

    I find it frightening, not "cool", that such a device is possible, given that my body relies on faint electrical signals.

    1. Re:Henrich Hertz by Accursed · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's more an electrochemical signal, though, not really anything to do with the energy of radio waves. It's electrical in the sense that it's charged (ions), not in the sense that there's an actual stream of electrons moving along like wires.

    2. Re:Henrich Hertz by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hertz came up with the math for (transverse) electromagnetic waves.

      Tesla was into broadcast power - which he apparently visualized as using capacitive coupling to the ionosphere at high impedance and low frequency) along with conduction in it and the ground below it as the transport medium. That's just electric fields and conduction (or longitudinal waves in the ionosphere's plasma) rather than electromagnetic waves.

      It happens that his systems would also generate electromagnetic radiation and propagate power with it. But it's apparently not the particular mechanism he had in mind. (It's also not as efficient as the one he envisioned, since EM waves radiate in all directions and falls off as inverse square, while Tesla's system would essentially pump energy into a resonant cavity and contain it between the ground and the ionosphere until it was dissipated by loads or parasitic resistances).

      Now the devices in question in TFA are designed around Hertz's EM radiation rather than Tesla's "elevated capacitance" system. But it was Tesla, not Hertz, who was the big cheerleader for broadcast power using electric and magnetic phenomena (if not precisely Hertizan waves).

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  8. Re:Need More by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's called a lightning rod, although a clock tower and a sufficient length of cable will work in a pinch. Figuring out how to get lightning to strike a DeLorian while traveling at 88mph is left as an exercise for the reader.

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  9. Re:College experiments by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is useful knowledge to have. Imagine being lost and in need of rescue. If you could create a device that siphoned sufficient power from radio signals to reduce their range, not only would you have power for a beacon but also the FCC would take care of tracking down your location so that you'd stop doing it.

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  10. Re:Question. Won't this weaken the RF signal? by TinBromide · · Score: 4, Informative

    no more so than a bunch of radios tuning in. If an antenna or chunk of metal is between you and a signal, your signal quality will be degraded. If not, you have a virtual line of sight (or LOS via reflections from the ground, buildings, etc) and can receive like normal. Its like worrying about your lawn receiving less light because your neighbor has solar panels on his roof. If the panels were between you and your lawn, it wouldn't matter if they were generating power, or just made of plywood, your lawn would be in the shade, but since they're not, your grass will be just as green. Its not like these antennas suck up the power, it won't bend the radio waves towards it like a magnetic pole would affect magnetic fields.

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  11. Re:College experiments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I call BS on the phone call. I think your prof may have been pulling your legs. For one thing, 60 watts is a drop in the bucket compared to megawatt transmitters, for another, radio waves behave like light waves, there isn't a return loop or any sort of return transmission involved in radio waves.

  12. Re:Question. Won't this weaken the RF signal? by mpoulton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its not like these antennas suck up the power, it won't bend the radio waves towards it like a magnetic pole would affect magnetic fields.

    Well, actually they do. It's not at all significant in the grand scheme of things, but antennas do affect (reduce) the signal in the area near them. Antenna designers refer to an antenna's "aperture", the effective area in space from which it can "suck" signal. This is a very abstracted view, but is a useful analogy to understand how antennas affect electromagnetic waves passing near them. It is as if your power-sucking cell phone device creates a radio shadow a couple feet in diameter, instead of only the size of the antenna. Fortunately, the effect only extends a few wavelengths from the antenna at most (the so-called near field region) and has absolutely no impact on receivers outside that space.

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  13. Geranium powered radios by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Funny
    You have to extract the dye from the geranium flowers, then use it to build a continuous dye laser which you modulate with the incoming RF signal. The beam is aimed at a very fast response bolometer which provides rectification. Just amplify the signal from a small current through the bolometer to get audio output.

    This is an easy project for a 16 year old provided mummy or daddy is a full professor of physics at Stanford.

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