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A Twitter Client For the Commodore 64

An anonymous reader writes "Johan Van den Brande has developed a Twitter client for the Commodore 64, allowing 140-character messages to be posted directly from this TV-connected 1982 home computer. This YouTube video shows how the Twitter client is — slowly! — loaded from a 5.25" floppy disk, how the latest Twitter messages are downloaded and shown on the TV screen, and how this tweet is posted. All that is needed is a C64, a TV, and a C64 Ethernet card. The Twitter client is implemented with the Contiki operating system, which otherwise is used for connecting tiny embedded systems to the Internet."

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  1. Much Faster Floppy Drive for the C64 by FranTaylor · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a Commodore IEEE-bus floppy drive that works great with a C64 with the right adapter. It takes 1.2 Mb floppies and it makes a 1541 look really sad. It was radically expensive at the time and I remember how annoyed my boss was when I told him the price.

    We actually had it pretty good even back then. We had a Kontron 6510 ICE so we could go in and figure out exactly what was going on with that weird video hardware, and it was great for finding those odd bugs.

    I still cannot believe how badly those 1541 floppy drives sucked. They are the most miserable pieces of computer gear I have ever encountered. It is just beyond belief that someone has managed to keep one working after all these years!

    I liked the Atari 800 much better. The video hardware had a much cleaner design and it was a lot easier to code for.

    1. Re:Much Faster Floppy Drive for the C64 by Zedrick · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wouldn't be surprised if someone has built an flash-based storage device for them.

      Yep, there's plenty of flash-storage solutions for the C64. I'm using MMC replay (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/MMC_Replay) and uIEC (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/uIEC)

    2. Re:Much Faster Floppy Drive for the C64 by A+Life+in+Hell · · Score: 3, Informative

      you mean like the 1541 ultimate ( http://www.1541ultimate.net/ )?

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      Commodore 64, Loading up the dance floor!
    3. Re:Much Faster Floppy Drive for the C64 by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Informative

      1541 used a 300 baud serial interface to the pc itself.

      That did not sound right. According to Wikipedia, it used a proprietary serial version of IEEE-488. "Without hardware modifications, some "fast loader" utilities managed to achieve speeds of up to 4 kB/s."

  2. Re:Speccy vs. C64 slugfest - start here! by biscuitlover · · Score: 3, Informative

    After having to slog through a million and one boring PS3/Xbox360 fanboy wars on pretty much every forum out there, is there anyone else who finds the prospect of a spectrum/C64 slugfest actually quite appealing?

    And have I been spending too much time on the Internet?

  3. Re:I call "cheating" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    actually they did, its called a vic 1011a and it plugs into the user port.

  4. Re:FW by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's barely a hack. Each of the pieces is pretty much being used for its intended purpose (the C64 is being used as a general computing device, the network card is being used as a network card, there is some software, etc.).

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  5. Re:FW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Attack of the Mutant Camels" refers to completely different games (both by Jeff Minter, mind) in Europe and America.

    In Europe, "Attack of the Mutant Camels" was a little bit like defender (with giant radioactive space camels). In America, the game released as "Attack of the Mutant Camels" was what the Europeans call "Gridrunner".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Mutant_Camels
    C64 AMC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKf3DcPk08
    C64 Gridrunner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRq6e1f85KY

    Jeff's "Revenge of the Mutant Camels" was completely insane...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_of_the_Mutant_Camels
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymVvsPczrwk

    The More You Know...

  6. Re:Twitter isn't exactly an intensive application by SpinyNorman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you RTFA, he didn't develop the TCP/IP interface.

    This project uses an "MMC replay" C64 expansion box with an RR-net ethernet daughterboard installed. He wrote the Twitter client to run on the Contiki OS, which comes with a built-in TCP/IP stack and a driver for the RR-card. Credit for Contiki and it's uIP TCP/IP stack go primarily to Adam Dunkels:

    http://www.sics.se/~adam/

    The accomplishment of the C64 Twitter client's author is really more about writing a Twitter client with one hand tied behind your back rather than really being C64 specific. He wrote it in C (CC65 6502 compiler) on Contiki, so the fact that it happens to be running on a C64 as opposed to any other environment that supports Contiki is somewhat irrelevant.

    Whether it scores any points for complexity really depends on your level of experience. Given that the ./ readership has become less and less hard core over the years, I think there are many people here who should be avoiding this guy's front lawn. At least, if you've never written any networking code in your life, how about firing up Linux, or installing MinGW (maybe roughly comparable to installing Contiki and CC65 on a C64), then writing your own Twitter client... It certainly won't be a waste of time if you learn how to do socket programming as a result.

  7. Re:FW by VanessaE · · Score: 5, Informative
    That "800" baud comment shows that you don't know that much about technology, especially as it relates to the C64. Aside from there not being any modems of that speed for any platform, the C64 is capable of much higher speeds anyway. Speeds up to about 460 kbps are possible via RS232 adaptors, with 115kbps being most common and practical. A properly designed application and hardware interface can pass data in and out of a stock C64 at up to around 40 kB/sec through PIO device. Add DMA to that, and the C64 passes data back and forth at about 1 MB/sec. Depending on the application, data can be processed at around 30 kB/sec.

    Not to mention that, as stated in the summary, this program uses an Ethernet device. I don't own one myself, so I can't be sure of the maximum practical speed, but based on my own hacking and programming on the C64 with PIO and DMA devices, I would guess data moves around at 20-30 kB/sec including TCP/IP and Twitter protocol processing overhead, on an otherwise stock machine.

    Although this particular application doesn't need anything beyond an Ethernet device, solutions also exist to counter any CPU, storage, or RAM constraints that a C64 user might run up against.

  8. Re:Software really has yet to catch up to hardware by Erikderzweite · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. VirtualBox is better optimized for XP (or vice verse). Linux is known to be slower there. Try real equipment.

    2. Clean XP install is as useless as a snooze button on a smoke alarm. Install software, for Gods sake! And don't forget an antivirus. We aren't talking about clean lab environment, it's a harsh real virtual world outside.

  9. Re:I call "cheating" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes it does. Just because the RS-232 lines don't come out into a 9 pin connector, but the expansion port instead, doesn't mean it's not RS-232. The only reason one could even come close to saying the C64 doesn't have RS-232 is the fact that the RS-232 line voltages aren't by the RS-232 standard. However, everything else you need for RS-232 is there.

  10. Re:FW by alatar_b · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, you can overclock it, in a fashion. Check out the SuperCPU http://www.cmdweb.de/scpu.htm It is a replacement CPU for the stock and also allows adding memory to the system.