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$1.9 Million Award In Thomas Case Raises Constitutional Questions

Techdirt points out that the EFF is examining the constitutionality of the recent $1.9 million verdict awarded in favor of the RIAA against Jammie Thomas. While on the surface it may seem that this excessive award should be easy to overturn since grossly excessive punitive damage awards are considered to violate the Due Process clause of the US Constitution, the Supreme Court seems to have been ignoring precedent and upholding copyright's importance at any cost. "Given the size of the statutory damages award, Ms. Thomas-Rasset's legal team will likely be seriously considering a constitutional challenge to the verdict. A large and disproportionate damage award like this raises at least two potential constitutional concerns. First, the Supreme Court has made it clear that 'grossly excessive' punitive damage awards (e.g., $2 million award against BMW for selling a repainted BMW as 'new') violate the Due Process clause of the US Constitution. In evaluating whether an award 'grossly excessive,' courts evaluate three criteria: 1) the degree of reprehensibility of the defendant's actions, 2) the disparity between the harm to the plaintiff and the punitive award, and 3) the similarity or difference between the punitive award and civil penalties authorized or imposed in comparable situations. Does a $1.92 million award for sharing 24 songs cross the line into 'grossly excessive?' And do these Due Process limitations apply differently to statutory damages than to punitive damages? These are questions that the court will have to decide if the issue is raised by Ms. Thomas-Rasset's attorneys."

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  1. Failed once, will fail again. by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Depressing as hell, but the system is bought, paid for, and bent beyond repair.

    1. Re:Failed once, will fail again. by dyingtolive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe that doesn't matter. Maybe one of these times it will become undeniably obvious (to people not on slashdot) that all of the above is true. I don't think the victory will be in this case. I hope the victory will be in the system no longer being able to pretend it is "for the people, by the people".

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    2. Re:Failed once, will fail again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Depressing as hell, but the system is bought, paid for, and bent beyond repair.

      Absolutely it is. When you have ex-RIAA lawyers getting assigned to high Department of Justice positions by this administration, what chance does Jammie Thomas think she has? They can appeal it all the way to the supreme court, and it's still going to get shot down; like you said, the whole system is bought and paid for.

      The saddest part about it is that it's not just the judicial system. Our Congressmen have literally been bought and paid for by big business lobbyists for years now. Depressing indeed.

    3. Re:Failed once, will fail again. by cavtroop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      we got fat and lazy. Literally and figuratively.

  2. Protecting Artists? Artists to Blame. by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The RIAA always talks about how they are just protecting the interests of the artists. It stands to reason that this is a reflexive property.

    If that is valid (and I certainly believe the first part of the supposition above is highly questionable), then here are the people you should hold accountable for this travesty of justice; the artists on her list:

    • Guns N Roses ("Welcome to the Jungle"; "November Rain")
    • Janet Jackson ("Let's What Awhile")
    • Goo Goo Dolls ("Iris")
    • Vanessa Williams ("Save the Best for Last")
    • Aerosmith ("Cryin")
    • Gloria Estefan ("Here We Are"; "Coming Out of the Heart"; "Rhythm is Gonna Get You")
    • Green Day ("Basket Case")
    • Journey ("Faithfully"; "Don't Stop Believing")
    • Destiny Child ("Bills, Bills, Bills")
    • Sara McLachlan ("Possession"; "Building a Mystery")
    • Richard Marx ("Now and Forever")
    • Linkin Park ("One Step Closer")
    • Sheryl Crow ("Run Baby Run")
    • Def Leppard ("Pour Some Sugar on Me")
    • No Doubt ("Bathwater"; "Hella Good"; "Different People")
    • Reba McEntire ("One Honest Heart")
    • Bryan Adams ("Somebody")

    I have a Green Day album and a couple Aerosmith albums. I figure to send it back with a suitably sardonic letter referencing the fact that I no longer want their music, and if they are in such financial hardship, they can re-sell it to help them put food on the table.

  3. Re:Duh... by theodicey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yup. The Roberts court's infinite pity for poor beleaguered corporations such as Exxon and BMW will be replaced by complete concern for the victims of crimes committed by individuals.

    Objectively, one would think that corporations would need more and clearer punishment, not leniency. The only thing preventing corporations from behaving amorally is the risk of financial punishment -- CEOs have almost no personal liability. Individual citizens risk criminal punishment, and have to answer to society's moral standards.

  4. Thomas-Aide? by arizwebfoot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps all those artists could do a benefit concert for Ms. Thomas and raise enough money to pay off the RIAA.

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  5. Re:Failed - Did they play possum intentionally? by click2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the sounds of it, the client was unable to pay their initial settlement offer of a few thousand.
    If thats the case then is there much different between being bankrupt and unable to pay say $50,000 or $5,000,000?

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  6. Re:There's no way to think she didn't do it by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you realise that the minimum statutory penalty for copying a CD is higher than the maximum penalty for stealing the CD, you see quite how messed up copyright law has become.

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  7. Texas civil damages capped. by kybred · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Counterpoint this $1.9 million judgement to this:

    Jabari, a 300-pound gorilla, escaped from his enclosure and went on an angry rampage through the zoo. Police shot and killed him on the zoo grounds, but not before he seriously injured Reichert, Heard and 3-year-old Rivers Heard.

    The Dallas City Council, which oversees the zoo, is scheduled to approve a $500,000 financial settlement with Heard and Reichert during a special meeting Friday at City Hall. The money is meant to compensate the women and their children for their physical injuries and emotional trauma.

    State law caps civil damage awards against a city government at $500,000.

    So the RIAA gets nearly $2 Million, while these people with real physical and emotional injuries get 25% of that.

  8. Re:Failed - Did they play possum intentionally? by agbinfo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $1.00 a month seems reasonable to me. At that rate she might even finish paying before the copyrights expire.