US House Democrats Unveil a Health Care Plan
gollum123 sends in this piece from a political blog in the NY Times. Here is the text of the bill in question (PDF). "House Democrats on Friday answered President Obama's call for a sweeping overhaul of the health care system by putting forward [an] 852-page draft bill that would require all Americans to obtain health insurance, force employers to provide benefits or help pay for them, and create a new public insurance program to compete with private insurers — a move that Republicans will bitterly oppose. ... But the chairmen said they still did not know how much the plan would cost, even as they pledged to pay for it by cutting Medicare spending and imposing new, unspecified taxes. The three chairmen described their bill as a starting point in a weeks-long legislative endeavor that they said would dominate Congress for the summer and ultimately involve the full panorama of stakeholders in the health care industry, which accounts for about one-sixth of the nation's economy. ... House Republicans, who have had no involvement in the development of the health legislation so far, quickly denounced the Democrats' proposal as a thinly disguised plan for an eventual government takeover of the health care system. ... The House Democrats' plan is one of three distinct efforts underway on Capitol Hill to draft the health overhaul legislation. In the Senate, both the Finance Committee and the health committee have separate bills in the works, and in recent days those efforts seem to have stumbled."
Surprised the Repulicans would find this totally unacceptable ... NOT ... unknown costs are only acceptable when it comes to war, killing and torturing foreign coloured untermenschen.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money" -Margaret Thatcher
Life is not for the lazy.
We already are better. Notice how you can go to any doctor you want, any hospital, and pay for any operation you want, even a sex change. All at your own expense.
Far better than GB or Canada or anywhere else could even dream of.
Mexico has better national health insurance than Canada or GB or anywhere in Europe, GO FIGURE!
Great comments! I'm sure will not be moded up however--your insights are too conservative, supported with facts, and oppose the general liberal mentality here in the US these days where everyone is desperate to rid themselves of personal responsibility in favor of the government living our lives for us.
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Note the voting pattern of Hispanics, Asian-Americans, etc. These non-Black minorities serve as a measurement of African-American racism against non-Blacks. Neither Barack Hussein Obama nor John McCain is a non-Black minority. So, Hispanics and Asian-Americans used only non-racial criteria in selecting a candidate and, hence, serve as the reference by which we detect a racist voting pattern. Only about 65% of Hispanics and Asian-Americans supported Obama. In other words, a maximum of 65% support by any ethnic or racial group for either McCain or Obama is not racist and, hence, is acceptable.
If African-Americans were not racist, then at most 65% of them would have supported Obama. At that level of support, McCain would have won the presidential race.
At this point, African-American supremacists (and apologists) claim that African-Americans voted for Obama because he (1) is a member of the Democratic party and (2) supports its ideals. That claim is an outright lie. Look at the exit-polling data for the Democratic primaries. Consider the case of North Carolina. Again, about 95% of African-Americans voted for him and against Hillary Clinton. Both Clinton and Obama are Democrats, and their official political positions on the campaign trail were nearly identical. Yet, 95% of African-Americans voted for Obama and against Hillary Clinton. Why? African-Americans supported Obama due solely to the color of his skin.
Here is the bottom line. Barack Hussein Obama does not represent mainstream America. He won the election due to the racist voting pattern exhibited by African-Americans.
African-Americans have established that expressing "racial pride" by voting on the basis of skin color is 100% acceptable. Neither the "Wall Street Journal" nor the "New York Times" complained about this racist behavior. Therefore, in future elections, please feel free to express your racial pride by voting on the basis of skin color. Feel free to vote for the non-Black candidates and against the Black candidates if you are not African-American. You need not defend your actions in any way. Voting on the basis of skin is quite acceptable by the standards of today's moral values.
"My case might be slightly biased since I was in a decent area of the state and the hospital doesn't deal with a load of poor people begging for free care but even with free healthcare, being in a poorer area of the UK can mean not getting a treatment someone else would get in a better off area. "
Wow are you a fucking piece of shit.
Can't you just hurry up and die? Please, the rest of the world would be eternally grateful.
Hmm, at the risk of sounding racist I wouldn't say it's all about the lack of health care. Blacks typically have very poor diet and exercise habits compared to the rest of the population.
I've talked to members of the working poor. I've also volunteered time, money, and services to assist them, and will continue to do so. What I won't do is sit around and let bleeding heart fucks like yourself dip their hands into money that I have worked for and give it to those who are deemed less fortunate.
That is for me to decide, not the government, and not you. I used to be a member of the working poor, but you know what? I kept working, I didn't make babies that I couldn't afford, and now I'm comfortably middle class and able to afford my own health care. You can go fuck yourself if you think I'm going to sit by and give what I've earned to people who aren't willing to earn it.
Are there exceptions and special needs? Sure. But the vast majority of the 'working poor' are in need of a swift kick in the ass, as are the fashionably pseudo-intellectual liberals like you who use them to advance your political power plays.
Take care of your own shit, don't expect anyone else to do it for you. Unless you're a left-winger I suppose, in which case nothing is ever your fault or your responsibility.
It's an easy correlation, dipfuck. Malpractice caps are a reaction to insanely high medical costs. That explains the correlation very simply, doesn't it? Go cry in the corner.
Now, for your assertion that the .5% methodology holds, and the experience of every doctor I've talked to is wrong (besides the GP, and everyone else who's talked to doctors) If we assume, probably correctly, that a lot of the cost of health care is that people don't go to their GP because health care is too expensive, then tort reform will have a disproportionately large affect.
Why? Small offices (GP's) bear a huge liability insurance burden. If that goes away, the cost of preventative medicine goes down. That, in turn, means that fewer people will need hospitalization, reducing the total expense of health care. QED.
You're still an asslicking fucktard.
Robert
Might have to do with the fact that blacks have a significantly lower IQ than all other races.