Indian CEO Says Most US Tech Grads "Unemployable"
theodp writes "When questioned about his firm's US hiring, Information Week reports that Vineet Nayar, the CEO of the Indian outsourcing giant HCL Technologies, showed he can stereotype with the best of them, telling an audience in NYC that most American tech grads are 'unemployable.' Explaining that Americans are far less willing than students from developing economies like India, China, and Brazil to master the 'boring' details of tech process and methodology, the HCL chief added that most Americans are just too expensive to train. HCL, which was reportedly awarded a secretive $170 million outsourcing contract by Microsoft last April, gets a personal thumbs-up from Steve Ballmer for 'walking the extra mile.' Ballmer was busy last week pitching more H-1B visas as the cure for America's job ills at The National Summit."
Yeah, actually the whole libertarian on /. thing is probably just a myth too. But hey, as a whole Americans are amazingly ignorant bastards...a lot of them could be dumb-as-fuck libertarians that fail to realize the many ways they are standing on the shoulders of western culture instead of being the individual mavericks they imagine themselves to be in their fantasies. When "Atlas Shrugged" and John Galt quit working the world just moved along without those self-righteous know-nothings. No man is an island and no individual man matters that damn much - sorry to burst your bubble. And I, for one, am not willing to hang myself on the noose libertarianism when a hybrid socio-political-economic model will serve us much better, just as it serves every other western nation. It's amazing how this rugged individualism has basically just put us in the U.S. on the hook to China and Japan. That's some wonderful freedom we have there...owned by the worker nations. Labor is the only real value, and if your aren't performing it in your country you had better get ready for an abrupt end to your ride on the gravy train.
[N.B. Too bad I can't have paragaphs on Slashdot via Opera. What gives...?]
Great you invented the Zero, maybe. The Babylonions were using a zero style placeholder several thousand years before the "invention" of zero by India in roughly 600AD.
I do also need to point out the completely independant use and understanding of the concept of Zero by the American Olmec civilization and is later adoption by the Mayans.
I will also mention the widespread use of a zero/placeholder by most of the BC civilizations surrounding the Babylonions, as well as the philosophical arguments surrounding use of a zero by the Greeks.
So, I don't think that you can really claim credit for the zero, but you sure are eager to claim credit for something that happened well over a thousand years ago as your claim to fame, but what has India done recently that is worth a damn?
The United States of America signed the declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. The question was, what has India done for the USA in the 200+ years that our country has been in existence?
What the hell has India done for our country since then, hmm? Nothing in particular comes to mind. On the other hand, India has received more foreign aid from the USA than any other developing country since World War 2.
I really wish we could stop keeping your lame ass country afloat.
who prays for Satan? Who in 18 centuries has had the humanity to pray for the 1 sinner that needed it most? ~Mark Twain
Really?? I've had the particular misfortune to work with a number of Indian engineers, electrical, mechanical and civil, and almost without exception the only "skill" they had was that of sucking up to their bosses. Not one of them had a single clue when it came to real world problem solving and only two were capable of realising how useless their education had been. The rest, after decades in the work force in some cases, were utterly incapable of seeing anything but the gold edged certificate they had been awarded from their university and refused to acknowledge that ANYONE could have a valid thought but themselves, while consistently producing the most ridiculous ideas (often a first year apprentice could see it would never work) and outright dishonest reports for their directors.
I hire Indians for an Indian company. I can say that generally Indian tech grads less employable than US tech grads. Many Indians are so poor they grow up never owning a computer (only using the school computer). Indians lucky enough have a computer have to deal with terrible internet speeds and have to deal with constant power cuts (like having electricity only 12 hours a day). Many Indians grow up without proper nutrition or proper health care and therefore have stunted growth (perhaps stunted mental growth too?). India is still quite a primitive, backward country.
Seriously don't expect university graduates to be able to do any professional job well, engineering, architecture or software coding, all the graduates will require years of training to become anything approaching useful.
It's funny that there are people who think that. I assume it is because they themselves required years of training to become useful.
Yes, the U.S. can learn sooo much from India; how to provide clean drinking water to the masses, how to feed and cloth the masses, how to provide reliable electricity to the masses.
I think Vineet Nayar would do well to begin with these issues in his home country before he makes stupid criticism of the U.S. education system, which while certainly having difficulties, is still the destination of choice for Indian undergraduate, and graduate students wishing to study abroad. Or is that just a coincidence ?
Besides, if it weren't for the Hi-B visa scams played out by many Indian companies, the US education system would still be producing plenty of top quality CS/IT grads, but as long as India continues to immorally take advantage of our generosity, and send their wage slaves over here to actually complete their education On-The-Job, at our expense, he can pretty much STFU.
I can't think of a single Indian I have worked with who knew shit when he arrived other than that he better work his ass off for crap wages before his visa expired in the hopes of learning enough to be able to stay here, rather than return home to his shit-hole of a country with little hope of getting anywhere near the same standard of living.
I'm sorry, I expected people to be able to infer at least one step from the things I spelt out in plain English.
If it was legal to buy discount DVDs in India and sell them in America then DVD producers etc would stop selling in India at the lower rate. Why would you sell cheap DVDs in India to earn negligible income there,if this will cost you masses of money by losing higher revenue sales of US goods. Ergo, the price disparity can't be legally exploited when it exists because it is not legal to exploit it.
Don't worry if you still don't get it, its safe to say you won't be setting economic policy any time soon.