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US Military Blocks Data On Incoming Meteors

Hugh Pickens writes "Nature reports that the US military has abruptly ended an informal arrangement that allowed scientists access to data on incoming meteors from classified surveillance satellites, dealing a blow to the astronomers and planetary scientists who used the information to track space rocks. 'These systems are extremely useful,' says astronomer Peter Brown, at the University of Western Ontario. 'I think the scientific community benefited enormously.' Meteor data came from the Defense Support Program (DSP) satellite network consisting of infrared satellites in geosynchronous orbit to monitor the globe for missile launches or atmospheric nuclear blasts, forming the principal component of the United States' ballistic missile early-warning system. The satellites' effectiveness was demonstrated during Desert Storm, when DSP detected the launch of Iraqi Scud missiles and provided warning to civilian populations and coalition forces in Israel and Saudi Arabia. As a side benefit, the satellites could also precisely detect the time, position, altitude and brightness of meteors as they entered Earth's atmosphere, information the military didn't consider particularly useful, or classified. 'It was being dropped on the floor,' says former Air Force captain Brian Weeden. Although the reason for ending the arrangement remains unclear, Weeden notes that it coincides with the launch of a new generation of surveillance satellites and speculates that the Pentagon may not want details of the new satellites' capabilities to be made public, or it may simply lack the expensive software needed to handle classified and declassified data simultaneously. 'The decision may have been made that it was perhaps too difficult to disclose just these data.'"

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  1. "Blocks"? by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFS, the military stopped giving out unclassified information that was a byproduct of a military function - a windfall.

    "Blocks" means that the information would flow but for the military's action.

    The editors (snicker) should have used "stops" - more ambiguous and yet more accurate at the same time. But I guess that wouldn't generate the clicks, now would it?

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    1. Re:"Blocks"? by nametaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed.

      It's a shame, and obviously we don't know exactly what the situation is, but if speculation is correct... should I really be upset that the military doesn't want to allow the world to black-box the capabilities of its missile detection systems? Especially with a wacky bastard in Korea lobbing his test missiles in our direction?

    2. Re:"Blocks"? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With everyone expecting a missile attack from North Korea, who would be able to say whether a strike on American soil actually originated from there?

      The Russians and Chinese, probably the British and French, possibly others.

      What, you think the USA is the only country with spy satellites watching for launches?

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  2. Tinfoil isn't just for Jiffy Pop anymore by Torodung · · Score: 5, Funny

    I assume this means the mothership is now on final approach, and we don't want those scientists causing a panic.

    I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. Advanced warning is only useful if you are against them. Join us.

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    1. Re:Tinfoil isn't just for Jiffy Pop anymore by uxbn_kuribo · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no one ever saw those movies.

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  3. Re:Good news everyone by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meteors are coming, everyone panic.

    It should be noted that the system looks "down", not "up" - it only sees meteors after they've hit the atmosphere.

    So if one big enough to cause substantial damage arrives, the message will be more like "MeteBOOOM!" followed by a lot of static.

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  4. The info become classified by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

    after the government started a new secret weapon program collecting adamantium meteors.

  5. North Korea by i_ate_god · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would think the problem is that North Korea is supposedly going to be sending a missile over to Hawaii. Perhaps meteor monitoring was simply a bad use of the satellites' time as the US military is gearing up to track North Korea's launch.

    Doesn't seem too far fetched to me...

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  6. Re:Expensive software? by Octorian · · Score: 4, Funny

    You forgot the thousands of pages of architecture, systems engineering, regulations, requirements, and certification documents that support said code :-)

  7. Re:Expensive software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Congratulations, you just failed your NSA cert because you attempted to mix classified and non-classified processing in the same processor. If you want to handle classified data, a processor can only handle classified data, you cannot mix and match. In devices that are forced to mix and match (edge devices, like encryptors typically) you have to build your device in two halves and minimize the contact between the halves (typically they will be in separate metal boxes inside of the device, with a single wire connecting them. That single wire will eat up pages and pages of documentation when you try to get your device certified explaining how there is no possible way to leak information out of it (even in cases like slamming the crypto with bad traffic on the red side to cause it to slow down in some pattern that could be identified on the black side).

    Your failure in design just cost your company a million dollars and several man-years of effort.

  8. Re:Expensive software? by rhathar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, sure, I'll just need one more quick function from you. Please write something to determine whether the high speed ballistic object that just showed up on the satellite is a missile, plane, or meteor.

    Remember that size, temperature and speed will be variable within each type. Also, once you've identified the type of object, please determine classification. Accuracy of this product must be 100%.

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  9. Coast to Coast? by hwyhobo · · Score: 4, Funny

    the reason for ending the arrangement remains unclear

    So, this entire thread is essentially just a bait for idle speculation and conspiracy theories. Art Bell would be proud.

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  10. My vote: Retasking by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it is probable that the military has re-assigned the satellites so that more are looking in the direction of North Korea and possibly Iran. It would make a lot of sense to point the satellites in that direction and keep it secret.

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  11. Clarification by T+Murphy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The satellites were picking up data on meteors as they hit the atmosphere. This has nothing to do with the search for large objects that may or may not hit the earth.

    This is technically made clear by the use of the word meteor, as opposed to asteroid, but I only remembered that as I type this so I expect I am not the only one that could have used a clarifying sentence in the summary.

  12. Re:Terrible bug by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Leave him alone, he works for Diebold.

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