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Intel Demos Wireless "Resonant" Recharging

Al writes "Last Thursday researchers from Intel demonstrated a way to recharge electronics from about meter away using a 'resonant' magnetic field. At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away. The recharging technique relies on a phenomenon called resonant coupling, in which objects can exchange energy when tuned to resonate at the same frequency. A similar approach was developed by researchers at MIT in 2007, and spun off into a company called WiTricity. This company has already developed a few products that use resonant coupling to recharge, including a car battery."

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  1. Pacemakers? by sexconker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pacemakers lol?

    Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.

    Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be. (Directed transmissions are not a joke.)

    1. Re:Pacemakers? by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You jest, but charging pacemakers or other internal devices would be almost the only practical use for this technique.

    2. Re:Pacemakers? by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pacemakers lol?

      If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard, try replacing your own pacemaker battery.

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    3. Re:Pacemakers? by abigor · · Score: 4, Funny

      I saw a documentary called Iron Man where this was done.

    4. Re:Pacemakers? by rsmits · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pacemakers lol?

      Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.

      Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be. (Directed transmissions are not a joke.)

      I was doing this as a kid in the sixties with a one transistor radio powered by rf from the local broadcast station. The radio had two tuned circuits - one for receiving power, one for tuning to the station. It's exactly the same principle used here. So now we get thousands of new sources of radio frequency interference from these chargers! Thanks a lot.

    5. Re:Pacemakers? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wireless power loses energy, so the only places it makes sense are were wires can't go or batteries can't easily be replaced.

      It's also useful for small devices that would be safer without exposed contacts. Electric toothbrushes are the first thing that come to mind, though I'm sure there are plenty of better examples.

  2. Intel expects this technology will be a hard sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As everyone's credit cards were erased during the demo.

    They did expect users with paper currency and PMs would be more open to purchase.

  3. Oh this is going to look cool by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away.

    I'm having a little trouble here with the concept. Instead of small white box plugged into the wall we have these freaking huge copper wires running in circles everywhere. Just doesn't jibe with the trendy iPod image.

    Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things?

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    1. Re:Oh this is going to look cool by vertinox · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just paint the copper wires white.

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    2. Re:Oh this is going to look cool by dontmakemethink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only is it completely impractical, not only it is not original, another much more practical contact-free charging method has been in widespread use for over 10 years. Inductance charging is reasonably efficient and very handy for waterproofing rechargeable devices, like my Panasonic shaver (link to charger image). Not nearly the range of "resonant charging", but all the other advantages apply, and no tumors or pacemaker failures.

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  4. Dumb question... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Isn't resonant vibration the way tons of energy transfers occur, including plain old radio communication?

    What makes this so novel?

    1. Re:Dumb question... by neomunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      80% power efficiency.
       

    2. Re:Dumb question... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Obviously nothing is 100% efficient...

      Actually super conductors are. They really have zero resistance. Unfortunately the temperatures involved mean that they are not very practical.

    3. Re:Dumb question... by i_b_don · · Score: 2, Informative

      um... what?

      Did you mean "the RESISTANCE of the cord is nothing compared to the impedance of the transmission mechanism"? Impedance is ideally lossless... the reduction in current comes from capacitance and inductance which only store and redirect current instead of turning it into heat like resistance does.

      And your nitpick doesn't make any sense either. Just because one part of a transmission line is super conducting doesn't mean it all is. It's like switching between different resistance cables in your power transfer... what happens in one part of the line doesn't mean anything about the rest of the wire.

      The real problem with the efficiency of super conducting cables is the cost that goes into keeping them cool. You have to count that massive expenditure of energy against it when doing efficiency calculations.

      In the end, 2gravey is right, copper is one hell of a good conductor (the only material that I know is better is silver, and it's not better by much) so its rarely possible to improve on a good copper wire other than to make it a thicker copper wire.

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  5. power consumption by mehrotra.akash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what is the power consumption of the transmitting coil when there is no load coil, also, does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils??

    and, what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media??

    similarly, magnetic fields can mess up CRT's, try taking a magnet to a CRT screen..

    1. Re:power consumption by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And what about humans.

      You know that our brain and nerves work electromagnetically, and many processes in our body do not expect a strong magnetic field on the outside.

      A weak field, OK. But a strong one will be bad. So the question is: How strong is still OK, and is the one who defines this trustworthy?

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    2. Re:power consumption by ckthorp · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a floppy. The magnetic materials are very different. Floppys are about 700 oersteds -- http://www.fujifilmusa.com/shared/bin/Degauss_Data_Tape.pdf Perpendicular HDs are much more (several thousand) -- https://www.mediaduplicationsystems.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=REM-1400NSA%20DEGAUSSER

    3. Re:power consumption by IorDMUX · · Score: 2, Informative

      what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media??

      Most HDD's are pretty well shielded, nowadays. Remember also that the receiving coil (in this case) is a 707 cm^2 wire coil, while the surface area of the hard drive in the magnetic field is likely no more than a few cm^2. (The energy absorbed by an object in this situation is proportional to its surface area in the plane perpendicular to the electric field, among other things.)

      does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils??

      The power consumption in the primary would increase. Given the case of two coupled inductors (the two coils seen here), a mutual inductance couples the two and a "reflected impedance" is seen on each of them due to the effect of the other. In other words, if the receiving coil was consuming large amounts of power, a significant series load would appear on the transmitting coil, causing either a drop in the voltage and the transmitted power (if you hold the power consumed by the transmitting coil constant) or an increase in the consumed power (if you hold the transmitted power constant).

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  6. Nicola Tesla by FudRucker · · Score: 2, Funny

    i always wondered what that coil was for
    NicolaTesla
    he was recharging his ipod!!!

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  7. Already have wireless power.... by Itninja · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ....it's called 'using batteries'. With a 3 meter range and relatively huge copper coils involved, how is this better that using batteries? Most devices use a transformer to customize the input for the device. With wireless power, would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer? And this would be better how?

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    1. Re:Already have wireless power.... by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, this wasn't touted as a replacement for batteries. It was touted as a replacement for charging cables. IE, when I get home I throw my cell phone on the desk and it starts charging, rather than having to plug it into a cord.

      Personally, I CAN see some benefit to that concept. Not the least of which is that I just plain forgot to plug in my phone sometimes, but I ALWAYS sit it on the desk when I get home. It would also just clear up some of the clutter (I'm up to 4 different cables sitting on my desk now - a generic USB extension, a mini-USB connector, a cell phone charger, and an iPod connector).

      That said, every wireless power transmission scheme I've seen was EXTREMELY inefficient. Unless the technology could be made to work in the same ballpark efficiency as our current wired methods, I just don't see it as a good long term solution. If it was just a case though of "Yeah, we figured it out. Want one?" though then I'd be first in line.

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    2. Re:Already have wireless power.... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      FTFA:
      "the type of radiation shared between the two coils is nonradiative,"

      which I take to mean 'no more than a few Watts of power are involved', which is fine for mobile phones and the like I suppose.

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    3. Re:Already have wireless power.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      FTFA:
      "the type of radiation shared between the two coils is nonradiative,"

      Wow, they invented non-radiative radiation!

      Wait a second...

  8. Test for other sources by Lev13than · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did they ensure that the iPod speakers were properly shielded against RDF interference? Now that Jobs is getting his strength back, I fully expect that Apple devices will discard with batteries completely and just feed off his sheer willpower.

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  9. Efficiency? by juanergie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anybody familiar with the efficiency of this process? What fraction of the wattage is lost during transfer?

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  10. We owe thanks to.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nikola Tesla and that crazy discovery of wireless energy transfer. Next time you power up your gizmo (via AC to DC conversion) raise a glass to the man who started it all!

  11. Wasted Energy by wjousts · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So in this era of concern about energy supplies, we have a new way to charge our phones that is less efficient and will waste a ton of energy. But at least we won't trip over any cables.

  12. useful, but dangerous by Vanderhoth · · Score: 2, Funny

    I read about this sort of thing awhile ago. http://www.pwrmat.com/ There would be some nifty applications, you could build this sort of power distribution system into a wall. Then you just have to be within the proximity of the distributor. It would primarily be a convince/lazy thing, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about your kid putting a fork in a wall socket. Then again by doing that you could be removing a natural selection factor and end up with even more stupid people that otherwise would have been electrocuted and taken out of the gene pool.

  13. We need a standard for this by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are at least four schemes for short-range wireless power transmission around. This needs to be standardized so it can be deployed.

    The very short range ones, which couple a tabletop pad to a device on it, would be most useful. All the little stuff that needs recharging should be on the same system, with recharging pads in bedroom, office, hotel room, car, airline tray table, Starbucks, etc. Unless the players get together and agree on a standard, this is going nowhere.

  14. Tesla would be proud. by Kotoku · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tesla would be so proud, many years later we are finally honing and putting to use technology that was before it's time.

  15. Nothing new here by kpainter · · Score: 3, Informative

    A company I worked for was charging the batteries in medical implants in this manner 10 years ago. In fact, the implant's charge coil is inside its Titanium case. The magnetic field goes right through the case. The charger had a class E amplifier. It worked very well. I would not doubt if this company already has a patent on this technique.