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Australian Web Filter To Censor Downloaded Games

Xiroth writes "The Australian Federal Communications Ministry has confirmed that they intend to use the planned filter to block the download of games that have been refused by Australia's classification authority, the OFLC. As an Electronic Frontiers Australia spokesman noted, 'This is confirmation that the scope of the mandatory censorship scheme will keep on creeping.'"

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  1. Refused? by roger_that · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who decides what games even get looked at for classification? What if they just haven't gotten to the game you want yet? Is there a backlog of games to classify? So many 'gotchas', so little logic/common sense/ways to appeal. My heart goes out to you Australian gamers.

    1. Re:Refused? by lgw · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's all worth it though. Since we know that if little Johnny sees one pair of tits, his head will explode, and we know that all other forms of censorship are effective, this is a critical step to protect the kids. If even one child's head is saved from exploding, brutal totalitarian dictatorship is worth it!

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    2. Re:Refused? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's all worth it though. Since we know that if little Johnny sees one pair of tits, his head will explode

      Oh crap... how are they going to protect nursing babies???

    3. Re:Refused? by lgw · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's all worth it though. Since we know that if little Johnny sees one pair of tits, his head will explode

      Oh crap... how are they going to protect nursing babies???

      Are you some kind of pervert that wants little babies sucking on breasts?!? Pedophilia at its worst!

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    4. Re:Refused? by lgw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please correct me if I am wrong, but it was my impression that Australia is more scared of violence and drugs than tits.

      Anyone who argues against censorship of violent video games hsould be rounded up and shot! It's the only way to avoid violence!

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    5. Re:Refused? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But it still puzzles me that the AU people, which I've always considered as easygoing and enlightened, accept this level of government "protectionism".

      We don't. We're not happy about it and we're making our opinions known. The minister in charge (Stephen Conroy is dismissing our objections. Come election time, he will discover this relationship is transitive.

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  2. Unclassified games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My understanding is a LOT of games don't get classifications out there.
    Filtering them out so you can't get them at all is horrible as the content isn't necessarily bad (and if it is they shouldn't be the ones judging if someone of age should be able to play them).

    What's that? It's just a file so it could be *gasp* encrypted and bypass said filter?

    OFLC: Yeah, good luck with that.

    1. Re:Unclassified games by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's just a file so it could be *gasp* encrypted and bypass said filter

      If any legitimate services do this, they'll be banned. This is a lose for game companies, honest consumers and the government (who loses out on tax revenue). Once again, this dosn't effect the pirates in the slightest, although (for once) this doesn't target them. Is it any wonder that piracy is so widespread?

    2. Re:Unclassified games by MrMista_B · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it is encrypted, it will not bypass the filter. It will be blocked, because it is encrypted. The innocent have nothing to hide, the innocent have nothing to fear. Are you innocent? Only criminals use encryption. Trust the government.

  3. For the last time... by DnemoniX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I will say this slowly for you politicians. The Internet sees censorship as damage, it will route around you.

    1. Re:For the last time... by paazin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I doubt they read Slashdot. But what about emailing, snailmail, or call them?

      Pretty much what I was thinking.

      Really, it's probably best to write a letter to your local paper (assuming you live in Australia) - that's a rather good forum for such topics that really hasn't found a truly similar foothold on the Internet yet contrary to those spelling out the doom of newspapers like many here.

    2. Re:For the last time... by pilgrim23 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does this mean my updates for Duke Nukem Forever may be delayed?

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    3. Re:For the last time... by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Internet sees censorship as damage, it will route around you.

      The internet for some users yes. But not for everyone and not for every game. Is this scheme going to be applied to Xbox live for example? Because I can tell you from personal experience that XBLA sees any censorship and damage (and, well, normal functions if I'm being honest) as a signal to give up completely. And commit console suicide probably as well.

      Some slashdotters will scoff at those people sure, but I trust a lot of you recognize that not being very computer literate and using consoles shouldn't mean the government should get to tell you what videogames you can and can't play in your freetime.

  4. Ban games? by Wowsers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess that means no more updates for BZflag and Tux Racer.

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  5. Precedent by parlancex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's genuinely disappointing to see happening in other free countries because I guarantee one of the first arguments that will be made for implementing a similar scheme in Canada will start with "This system is already in place in many other countries such as Australia, etc.", then again I suppose it's equally disappointing that our country is so easily influenced by some of the precedents set by US et al.

    1. Re:Precedent by CorporateSuit · · Score: 3, Funny

      At least in the US, if a politician tries to censor our internet from violent media, we still can buy guns to shoot them with.

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    2. Re:Precedent by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's when you go back to the old Mom question of "If all the other countries were jumping off a bridge, would you jump too?"

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  6. It just makes so much sense by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Will they be blocking violent movies too? What about violent books and song lyrics?

    I don't doubt this will have an effect. Instead of 15-20 year olds playing violent games occasionally, they will now find them incredibly cool, and go to great lengths to play them. They won't have much trouble unless Australia figures out how to block torrents and eBay too. Even that wouldn't stop anyone.

  7. The door is open by Anarchduke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sad truth in all this is that once you say that it is all right to censor anything, you have already lost the war. Now each item that the Australian government (not the public, but those in control) finds objectionable will come under review and may be censored. This is the slippery slope we all scream about until we are hoarse.

    Each step down this path will have the same excuse, "It's for the children".

    I wonder how long it will be until the Australian government censors news articles for the "fear effect" such uncensored information might have on the children.

    I will say it again, once you accept that censorship is acceptable, then it is only a matter of how much will be censored.

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  8. Can You Hear Me Now? by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm just a bit curious here, can someone in-the-know highlight the internet policy differences between Iran, China and Australia? I'd think a side-by-side comparison of policy features would be really neat.

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  9. A way to produce more & better AU hackers by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is an attempt by the government to increase the numbers and improve the skills of hackers in Australia. "You want to play those cool games, you have to hack your way past our Internet filters." People here on Slashdot are so paranoid. This is an attempt by the Australian government to provide a training environment for those computer skills that are needed in the 21st Century.

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  10. Australia is a Failed State by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nope. The Australians are afraid of breasts (Ref: Conservatives MPs... want topless... bathing banned on NSW beaches). The world is has gone mad.

    1. Re:Australia is a Failed State by EvanED · · Score: 4, Funny

      (Ref: Conservatives MPs... want topless... bathing banned on NSW beaches)

      Jeez, you think the "NSW" label would be good enough to warn people.

    2. Re:Australia is a Failed State by kalirion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do all these closet homosexuals get into politics?

      Huh?

      Closet homosexuals are all for tits. They'd live in houses made of tits if they could, to advertise to the world how manly they are, in between gaybashing those homosexuals who are actually secure in their sexuality.

    3. Re:Australia is a Failed State by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The joke is, that it is only interesting, as long as not everybody is doing it.

      Seriously, after an hour on a topless beach, you start to look them in the faces first. :P

      And before you know it, they are not that interesting anymore.

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  11. Re:Their censor software was written by a Lunix us by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lunix is the crappiest OS since the days of Dos 6.2

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  12. No Route Possible by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Repeating this mantra is not going to make the growing censorship of the internet go away. back in the days when the internet was solely the province of the technically minded, this may have been true. But in the days of a global, universal internet, this mantra is slowly but surely becoming hollow.

    Governments of the world are not, NOT, going to put up with a medium in which anyone whatsoever can read or publish anything they wish, at any time, on a global scale, without any government control. More importantly, the public is not going to put up with it. This simply isn't the way human societies work. People want censorship.

    If you doubt this, poll your friends and neighbors. Ask the plain question; "Do you think their should be government supervision of the internet?". The overwhelming majority of people will answer, "Yes". And they will not mean supervision over "extreme" material like child pornography and snuff sites. They will mean supervision over anorexia boards, neo-nazi sites, "obscene materials", fringe persons and political groups, atheists/creationists, and in general censorship of anyone that they do not like.

    This increasing government interest in internet censorship is not coming out of nowhere. It's a natural progression of the general will of human society; to repress views they disagree with. If you can find enough people who dislike a thing, you can get it banned. That's what's happening to the internet, and that's why its getting so much support.

    In the future, the current internet era (or more appropriately the one ten years ago), will be looked back on as we now look back on the late nineteenth century drug era, in which cocaine, cannabis and even heroin could be bought, sold and taken quite legally. People had rights to drugs in those days, but, slowly but surely, disapproval of those liberties lead to their restriction. The same thing is going to happen to the internet.

    Eventually, you will need a license to publish material on the web, or at least to host a site, and all sites will be fully regulated by vast, probably international, government offices created for the purpose. This is coming and there is going to be no way to route around such a mortal wound to the free web.

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  13. Amazon pages will have to be blocked by danny · · Score: 3, Informative
    Australia's game classification system has no "adult" category, so many games sold without any controls at all elsewhere in the world are flat out banned ("Refused Classification") here.

    So if what Conroy has announced here goes ahead, a whole pile of product pages at Amazon (among others) are going to have to go on the blacklist. (Leisure Suit Larry is among the games banned in Australia.

    The problem is that many of the proposed filtering solutions work by routing traffic to IP addresses that host prohibited pages to a proxy server. As we saw with the Internet Watch/BT/Wikipedia debacle, this approach is likely to cause problems with high traffic sites (and may well overload the proxy server).

    Danny.

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