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The Video Bay, Now In Beta
poundhard writes "Some two years ago, it was mentioned on TorrentFreak and Slashdot that The Pirate Bay team were working on a YouTube competitor. At the oral proceedings of the Spectrial, I believe it was Peter Sunde, aka Brokep, who said to the prosecutor that it was one of those side projects that failed. A few days ago though, he appeared over Skype at the Open Video Conference in New York, and apparently said that they were about to launch something new. It has been speculated in Norway that it will be the IPREDator. But I checked out The Video Bay, and hey, it is about to go live! This is what they write: 'To stay in the spirit on which TPB was founded and using the Latest Technology, TVB aims to use the new HTML5 features, more specifically the <video> and <audio> tags with the ogg/theora video and audio formats. This site will be an experimental playground and as such subjected to both live and drunk (en)coding, so please don't bug us too much if the site ain't working properly.'"
Now they can get sued by the MPAA as well as the RIAA!
Good for them, though.
Can VHS be far behind?
So now private beta websites that don't really do anything new get to the front page of slashdot? The only thing I can see is the front page, everything else requires a username and password. Let me know when they do something notable.
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That site is fricken lame.
This is great. I was looking for somewhere that I could make videos in Ogg Theora format and upload them. I had tried a combination of archive.org and theorasea.org but it was quite terrible really.
Hopefully this will help to increase support for Ogg Theora. I'd like to see wikipedia start using Ogg Theora too, they used to have some videos on articles like the Wright Brothers flight at Kitty Hawk which was a neat little addition, but they seem to have disappeared.
Just for the beta.
Eh...the helpin out email address on their page gives me a relay access denied bounce back...great way to help out lol
There is a fundamental difference between Youtube and something like The Pirate Bay or The Video Bay. Youtube isn't about piracy, the initial purpose of it was social networking and it continues to try to strive for that. People may use it to upload movies, etc. and split them into parts to get around it, but Youtube does what it can to remove copyrighted material so its not at fault.
So when they say that they are trying to make a competitor to Youtube, I can see that they are very misguided.
Some related news:
Peter Sunde, one of the convicted(and appealing) men behind The Pirate Bay is right now at 'Fórum Internacional Software Livre' in Brazil where he among other things got to meet the brazilian president Lula. Here is a picture of the meeting.
Peter Sunde himself talks a bit about it in his blog.
So what now Joe Biden? Time to invade Brazil for fraternizing with the enemy?
Prosp long and liver.
A username and password are being requested by http://thevideobay.org. The site says: "The Vidoe Bay"
That's a great idea. Make a 401 website that looks interesting, and collect passwords. Get it on slashdot -> Jackpot!
. . . copyrighted content on their own servers? The whole "but they only host torrent files and links" defense will be useless.
Some of you may find it interesting to learn what that "It has been speculated in Norway"-link actually means... well, NRK beta is the new technologies-playground of the STATE BROADCASTER (NRK). It sure is a healthy sign that they report on such things (Google translation) in a favorable manner.
If this works on the iPhone, it's going to force youtube to adopt HTML5.
The one smart PR move that renegade countries like Iran, Zimbabwe or North Korea don't ever make is hosting other renegades, from the other side of the pond (like tpb or tvb). They'd score a major coup by showing that there are excesses and abuses perpetrated by their critics as well, and rather than having to perform the filtering and censorship themselves, they'd be forcing the West to do it for them, allowing themselves to be painted as the good guys.
"One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that ones work is terribly important." -BRussell
Legitimate videos == legitimate ads.
If this is going to get mainstream use with any kind of revenue stream, they'll need ads, and they'll need ads that aren't too offensive. Many of TPB's ads are for shady porn sites.... that'll have to go if this will be the sort of place I tell my family view my videos at.
"You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help" -- Calvin
I'm glad I didn't expect anything to work...
Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, Never drive a car when you're dead
They're trying to compete with Youtube?... Compete for what? The privilege of losing $1.65 million per day? If the MPAA was smart they would help The Pirate Bay set this up!
Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?
And also states "Don't expect anything to work at all." In KDE speak that translates to "final stable release of an amazing new paradigm in website technology."
What are we replacing it with this week? Silverlight or something else? Maybe realplayer? Hah. This is a semi-legitimate question on my end as I really don't keep up with this.
Om, nomnomnom...
Dude, seriously.. nimp.org, are you new here or what?
Uhhh yeah, look at his userid/number.
good thing I'm on my bee
Warning !!
I clicked the kopime link, and im not happy with what is now left in my cache !!!
I'm not easily insulted, but i freaked out when i got a pic of a naked child !
why would you link to something like that ???
I have to ask: What is the point of the video> tag, when there is a perfectly good and very flexible tag?
I used that thing back in 2004, to allow me to play back anything that I throw at it, as long as the browser supports it. It worked nicely.
The only thing missing, was that the browser could not overlay HTML over it. Just as with form fields. Which was a bug, and should be fixed.
So those new tags are really pointless.
The only reason I can think of, is to follow the general philosophy of HTML5 (vs. XHTML2), to foster the ability of unprofessionals and idiots to use it, despite their output being riddled with bugs and horrible stuff. Because <object data="some-media-file.ext">, and the ability to define the mime type and interpreter (eg a java app) is too complicated for them.
Do we really want to go back to 1999? With 2009s version of intro Flash movies, marquee elements on extreme texture backgrounds and bad animated gifs?
"The homepages are back! Now with even more pointlessness, horrible code and flashes that make your children twitch!"
Myspace on IE - The Goatse of web design! ;)
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I use Youtube as my music jukebox at work. I search for just about any song that pops into my head and someone has uploaded a "video" of it to Youtube, so I listen and minimize the browser. It's nice.
A work that expires before its copyright never enters the public domain and thus enjoys eternal copyright protection.
Only if we get to stop off in Argentina for some recreation time first.
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There are good reasons to add a video tag, but considering the way you revel in your own ignorance, I can't really be bothered to tell you about it. I'll just let you know that there are good reasons, and you can use that as a starting point to educate yourself instead of posting knee-jerk nonsense, if you really are interested.
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It's all moot now.
Pirate Bay has sold out for SEK30,000,000
I guess the MAFIAA _will_ get paid their fines.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/30/pirate_bay_gaming_factory_x_ab/
http://thepiratebay.org/blog/164