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Yahoo's "Chicken Coop" Data Center Design
1sockchuck writes "Yahoo has come up with a data center design called the Yahoo Computing Coop, which it says will make its new data center in Lockport, NY one of the most efficient on earth. The design features 120-foot by 60-foot metal prefabricated facilities with louvers on the side to support free cooling, and a peaked roof to manage the release of waste heat from the hot aisle. Chief Yahoo David Filo said the name was adopted 'because it looks like something chickens live in.' The $150 million data center in Western New York, which was announced earlier today, will run on cheap hydro power from the Niagara River."
Well with a roof like that, I guess at least they can say Yahoo isn't full of hot air.
But when you start getting power from the falls, you might be all washed up.
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I'm rather mystified that there's still interest in Yahoo. Although I'm aware that their hand-edited, directory-like coverage is actually popular in countries that use non-ascii character sets, Yahoo's search results haven't seemed competitive to me since '97.
Honestly, I'm not trying to troll; just wondering why a site that's stagnated for over 10 years now needs anything cutting-edge.
Anyone still using them? Have any insights why we ought to care what they're up to?
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I'm not a fan of Yahoo! but my Dad (born in 1960) has been using it as his primary e-mail and instant messaging service for years. It does everything he needs it to and he doesn't have the motivation to switch services. As far as I can tell the Yahoo! e-mail service has a comparable feature set to Gmail and Yahoo! messenger has all of the features of Google Talk (IE pop-up e-mail alerts, VOIP, messaging), except that it has been around for far longer.
Yahoo! isn't "in style" anymore and I was never a huge fan of it myself but for some people "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is enough of a reason not to switch service providers. I bet that Yahoo! will decline in popularity as the years go on and more and more of it's user base kicks the bucket.
For a moment there I panicked about a chicken coup trying to overtake Yahoo. Although chickens can not make it any worse for Yahoo than it already is.
The image of millions of chickens rising up against the tyranny of Yahoo and running around all excited is simply awesome. I, therefore, petition that Yahoo at least change the name to Chicken Coup if not go all the way to welcoming their new chicken overlords!
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I certainly hope it does. You see, I have doubts on the viability of whatever Yahoo does. A company that shuts down three services in less than 8 months (Y!Live, Jumpcut and Maven Networks), you begin to wonder whether they know what they are doing.
On my mail account, Yahoo have decided to make it more bloated with Facebook/Twitter like services while requiring money to mark more than 500 addresses as spam addresses. By the way, you cannot redirect mail from a Yahoo account or access it via POP3 without shelling out cash. Insane with the likes of free Gmail out there.
I have also noticed that Yahoo search is capturing any invalid URLs I enter into the Google search page...adding to my agony and dislike of the company. If I want to search, I know where to go. Bottom line, Yahoo do not know what they are doing in my not so humble opinion.
Lockport is where the Erie Canal climbs the Niagara Escarpment.
The canal itself was and is a source of hydro-power - think of it as a 350 mile nineteenth century industrial corridor cut across upstate New York. The work of self-taught engineers and Irish immigrant labor - with no better tools available than the pick axe and black powder.
Lockport is a small city of about 20,000 that has been spared the frauds and fancies that have plagued the redevelopment of Niagara Falls. It is about 16 miles northeast of the SUNY Amherst campus.
I have been using Yahoo! Flickr on a nearly daily basis, and for online card/board games, yahoo is a great place to play. Yahoo stopped being a search engine a looooong time ago, but still does other things quite well.
What sorta chicken shit operation is Yahoo turning into?
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The market allows for an OpenOffice even in a world dominated by MSWord. Ruths Chris still sells meat even though McDonalds sells more. Ford isn't expected to roll over and die in the face of Toyota's market share. Corn flakes and shredded wheat, Java and Ruby, PC and Mac, Hertz and Avis -- competition is not about destroying the second tier, it's about compelling both it and the market leader to keep getting better. Would Google work so hard if it didn't have Yahoo on its heels?
Specifically, it will run on power generated from Niagara Falls. The Western New York (Niagara Falls/Buffalo) area is an outstanding candidate for green-themed projects like this. In addition to the power plant, the weather here is ideal (it rarely gets grossly hot and humid in the summers--it's very comfortable), WNY is < 8 hours' drive/1 hour plane ride from several large US and Canadian cities (Toronto is just an hour or so away, NYC is 6 hours, DC is 7.5), and despite what you may think from watching/listening to the news, there is a lot of sunlight for solar (the University at Buffalo is just kicking off a large solar project now, actually...).
On top of that, it's a great place to live. Cost of living is low (I'm closing my first house now for $116,000 -- housing never went stupid here like it did elsewhere so there's no foreclosing parties) so companies can pay salaries that are great compared to the cost of living--but cheap compared to most other areas. People are extremely friendly, commuting is a breeze (though it's hardly a ghost town), there are excellent colleges and universities in the area to hire new grads out of, and there are tons of local, unique, family owned restaurants and businesses.
We've been growing quite a bit (but wisely, not recklessly) the last few years. I wouldn't at all be surprised if other major service providers came knocking.
Though this is an interesting design, I'm wondering if the savings would be better served from using simply less servers? Does Y! use a high-tech design and still have a ton of servers or do they spend less on design and more on higher-capacacity servers running virtualization?
Hey, I was just in a massive data center yesterday for a tour. (100,000 sq ft) They had a spare s390 sitting on the side of the room. Maybe Y! can borrow that baby and put on a few hundred linux and/or windows VMs...
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I went to school in Rochester, NY, so I'm familiar with the area. The good news is that the power up there is obscenely cheap (if you're in a township that gets the hydro power) and that they should have no problem cooling the facility for much of the year. The bad news is that the snow gets so bad that they've, routinely, had to shut down the NY State Thruway West of Rochester during winter storms. Good luck getting to work in those conditions, they may want to consider setting up cots for the Admins.
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Ah another project brought to you by PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes). Screwing the homeowners and tax payers of Niagara County once again. Niagara county is one of the most taxed counties in NY, PILOT was supposed to help start-ups get their feet off the ground, but has since been abused by large companies by promising high paying jobs in return for sales tax exemptions and property tax waiving. Case in point AES Sumerset. As with Google (in Lenoir county NC), its likely only a small fraction of the 175 announced jobs will be filled. Many of them being building maintenance jobs with most of the admins and engineers working remotely and not really contributing to the local economy (after all who wants to live in Lockport?, where yes the houses are cheap...but you have to pay 5000/year property tax on your 100k house).
You know why the Yahoo Computing Coop only has 2 doors?
Because if it was 4 doors, it'd be a Computing Sedan!
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Me and all my hippie vegan friends insist that Yahoo quit this outrageous behavior at once!
We demand socially responsible computing! We demand free range servers!
If they don't have really good filters on those louvers, it'll *really* look like a chicken coop inside...
Dig to there, and the rest of the day you have off and can drink your wiskey.
a single barrel seems scarcely enough for the true Irish working man's thirst.
one story that probably didn't make your Social Studies class:
planting the black powder charges meant working in very tight places. so a local farmer's kid - a very young kid - would be hired on for the job.