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New AES Attack Documented

avxo writes "Bruce Schneier covers a new cryptanalytic related-key attack on AES that is better than brute force with a complexity of 2^119. According to an e-mail by the authors: 'We also expect that a careful analysis may reduce the complexities. As a preliminary result, we think that the complexity of the attack on AES-256 can be lowered from 2^119 to about 2^110.5 data and time. We believe that these results may shed a new light on the design of the key-schedules of block ciphers, but they pose no immediate threat for the real world applications that use AES.'"

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  1. Furthers my stand on crypto, which is: DON'T by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Crypto is broken. It's not IF, but WHEN. That's why crypto is pointless to use. this is why I use open source, and even keep all doors unlocked. It's pointless to try and protect propery, real or intellectual/imaginary.

  2. Complexity. by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

    For those who don't have a degree in oh-shit-that's-a-big-number, can someone give a comparative analysis of what "2^119" complexity means? I mean what else is "2^119" hard to solve? And yes, the math nerds are undoubtedly either dying of laughter or yelling at the screen for my abuse of powers of two... I don't care.

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    1. Re:Complexity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      that's what she said.

    2. Re:Complexity. by DriedClexler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Note to self: never try to tell a cryptography joke.

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    3. Re:Complexity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Why limit yourself to electrons? Photons man, photons - they're the new "it" particle for computation!

  3. Re:Complexity by jcwayne · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... 2^137 times better is half a metric asston.

    I measure algorithmic complexity in imperial asstons, you insensitive clod.

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  4. Obligatory XKCD quote by snikulin · · Score: 5, Funny
  5. Re:Complexity by dotgain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imperial Asstons are non-migratory

  6. Sigh... I'll repeat again: by snikulin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lord Farquaad: I've tried to be fair to you creatures, now my patience has reached it's end! Tell me or I'll...
    Gingerbread Man: NO! Not the buttons! Not my gumdrop buttons!
    Lord Farquaad: Alright then! Who's hiding them?
    Gingerbread Man: Ok. I'll tell you. Do you know... the muffin man?

  7. Re:Complexity by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and when I say "strongest" I mean in a pure math sort of way.

    Any attack which starts with things like "first you encrypt 2^128 carefully chosen plaintexts and store them in a hash table" isn't really an attack you should worry about.

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