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Eye In the Sky For City Crime Fighting

Tiger4 writes "The mayor of the City of Lancaster in the Antelope Valley of southern California is considering a high-definition video flying platform to aid in crime fighting. The aircraft, would circle the city constantly, able to zoom in on activity spots instantly. 'You never know when you are being watched or followed. It would be stupid to commit a crime. You see it with such detail,' said Mayor R. Rex Parris, who took a ride last week in a camera-equipped airplane with pilot Dick Rutan. 'I have every hope that Lancaster will be the first city to deploy it. I've never been so excited about anything.' Dick Rutan is the same pilot who flew around the world non-stop in the Voyager, custom built by his brother Burt Rutan at Scaled Composites in Mojave." The aircraft is nothing special, a garden-variety Cessna or the like, but "the camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications, Rutan said."

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  1. Next step by redcaboodle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Outlaw roofs.

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    1. Re:Next step by N3Roaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The new fashion accessory that every criminal thug just has to have: an umbrella.

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    2. Re:Next step by siloko · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well Blue Thunder was an ostensibly civilian undertaking which sort of suggests you agree with the quoted sentiment:

      The camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications

      I disagree however. Once government's start using military surveillance techniques on it's citizenry they are no longer a civilian government's but precursors to a police state. And the guys excited about it . . . I'm not sure whether thats scary or disgusting!

    3. Re:Next step by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, let's see, so far citizens are unanimously in favor of:
      • Automated Speed Cameras
      • Red Light Cameras
      • Neighborhood Cameras (ala UK)
      • Cameras in the classrooms of elementary schools

      Well, sure, I'm guessing we'll all be embracing the next logical step in govt. surveillance!! The all seeing HD eye in the sky.

      Wait, did I forget my [sarcasm] tag??

      Sadly, there will be a decent number of people that will go for this. More and more these days a saying I heard awhile back is even more pertinent:

      What one generation tolerates, the next generation embraces.

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  2. Re:Whoa, they invented the maintenance-free plane? by Akido37 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's like those cities with cameras everywhere, except some of the camera boxes don't even contain a camera.

    For the system to work, it doesn't actually have to record every crime. It only has to deter people from committing crimes out of fear that they MAY be recorded.

    That said, I think that constant surveillance will be the end of our republic.

  3. Re:Anyone... by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    going to offer a reward to the first person to shoot the damn thing down?

    Ask your friendly neighborhood drug lord.

    The next version of the plane is then going to be armed with 20mm cannons. Why just watch crime when you can stop it dead?

  4. Re:And criminals... by WindowlessView · · Score: 5, Insightful

    so the Mayor pointing out "It would be stupid to commit a crime"

    If this is true, then why are government officials so reluctant to have their own activities monitored? Why do law enforcement get so edgy about being filmed? Why are cameras not allowed in most court rooms? Why aren't public officials monitored all day long? It just stops crime, after all.

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  5. Re:Whoa, they invented the maintenance-free plane? by mdwh2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Privacy outside of a building is not constitutionally mandated. Walking on the street? Anyone can take pictures of you - media, gov't, private citizens and you have zero privacy claims. There is no expectation of privacy when you leave the protection of a building.

    But as soon as an individual points a camera at this aircraft, you can bet that police will be telling them they're not allowed to do it, that they must delete the photos, or arresting them on some terrorism charge (at least, that's what would happen in the UK).

    It's as if objects, buildings and so on have more of an expectation of privacy than individuals do...

  6. Re:And criminals... by hacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If this is true, then why are government officials so reluctant to have their own activities monitored? Why do law enforcement get so edgy about being filmed? Why are cameras not allowed in most court rooms? Why aren't public officials monitored all day long? It just stops crime, after all.

    You bring up a very interesting point. What if the flying-camera-drone catches some police abuse on civilians, or some other egregious violation of human or civil rights? Do we, as civilians, have the right to request the footage of that incident at that time? After all OUR money paid for this plan, the pilot's salary, the camera, the fuel and everything else related to putting that object in the air. Does the FOIA cover this too?