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Obama Photog Says "You're Both Wrong" To AP & Fairey

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "In Fairey v. Associated Press, the Associated Press said artist Shepard Fairey's painting had infringed its copyrights in a photo of then-President Elect Barack Obama. Fairey said no, it was a 'fair use'. Now, the freelance photographer who actually took the AP photo — Manuel Garcia — has sought permission to intervene in the case, saying that both the AP and Fairey are wrong. Garcia's motion (PDF) protests that he, not AP, is the owner of the copyright in the photograph, and that he never relinquished it to AP. And he argues that Fairey is not entitled to a fair use defense. According to an article in TechDirt, this intervention motion by Mr. Garcia represents a changed attitude on his part, and that his initial reaction to Mr. Fairey's painting was admiration, and a desire for an autographed litho. Maybe Mr. Fairey should have given him that autographed litho."

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  1. Really? by PotatoSan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Photog? Litho? You can't be bothered to type those out?

  2. I'm having a hard time seeing infringement by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, lets say that this isn't Obama, since the personality and timeliness of the subject appear to be clouding the issue. I'm presuming that the timliness of an image, since the copyright lasts for over a century, isn't salient (someone will doubtless correct me if I'm wrong).

    Let's say this is the picture of the Hellers Bakery. Let's say it's a photo of a street flower vendor, and someone takes an anonymous photo off the net and decides to base a work of art on it. It might look like this http://www.josephcraigenglish.com/SidewalkFlowers.jpg and the artist would be required to create the hundred-plus silk screens and choose the colors to create a particular mood. How about if it were more generic? Say, a photo of the Capitol, posterized down to 8 colors with a red-white-and-blue sky?

    Having seen the photo and the print for the first time today (but having hear about it previously), I'm calling bullshit on the AP and Garcia. Yes, the photograph is copyright, but the content - Obama looking up in a button down shirt and a tie - is so generic as to be reduced to almost "factual" information when translated into the poster.

    I fear that the court will rule in favor or either the AP or Garcia. If they do, it will be just one more proof that the system is broken, and is stifling rather than promoting and enabling.

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    1. Re:I'm having a hard time seeing infringement by jdwilso2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's even more simple than that ... everyone's greedy and copyright law is completely broken.

      the IP industry wants it both ways and only when it supports larger corporations rather than individuals ...

      contrast this with the recent wikipedia issue of the UKs national portrait gallery claiming copyright on photos taken of portraits that are in the public domain

      http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/07/11/1239244/UKs-National-Portrait-Gallery-Threatens-To-Sue-Wikipedia-User

      the real issue is that copyright law protects the entity with the largest legal budget.

  3. Re:Is this the photo of... by devleopard · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dude, have you seen the photo? It's actually out of context (if you see the actual video), but hilarious. If it was Bush, everyone would be hamming it up. Obama's the president, and with that comes our right as Americans to poke fun at him on a regular basis. There's nothing unique about him that exempts him from that. Also, your comment indicates presumptuousness - how to you know syousef is conservative? Also, what's up with being Anonymous Coward? Are you that ashamed of your political ideals?

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  4. If it were Bush ... by yelvington · · Score: 5, Funny
  5. Re:Is this the photo of... by martas · · Score: 5, Funny

    i especially like sarkozy's look of approval, like he's saying "way to go barack, i can tell we have similar tastes".

  6. Re:Photog? by slarrg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I would prefer the headline "Obama Photographer Says AP and Fairey Are Both Wrong" for the same number of characters.

  7. Re:Is this the photo of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ABC posted a video of the whole event, he is not checking her out. Or at least, his head does not track her. He's turning around to offer an arm to the woman behind him to help her down the stairs.

    Sarkoszy, on the other hand, stares at her ass for a good 10 seconds.

  8. Re:Is this the photo of... by rrohbeck · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. Re:Is this the photo of... by rrohbeck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank goodness Berlusconi wasn't there.