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Wikipedia Debates Rorschach Censorship

GigsVT writes "Editors on Wikipedia are engaged in an epic battle over a few piece of paper smeared with ink. The 10 inkblot images that form the classic Rorschach test have fallen into the public domain, and so including them on Wikipedia would seem to be a simple choice. However, some editors have cited the American Psychological Association's statement that exposure of the images to the public is an unethical act, since prior exposure to the images could render them ineffective as a psychological test. Is the censorship of material appropriate, when the public exposure to that material may render it useless?"

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  1. Lets see... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exposer to to pseudo-science renders it useless??? Now if we can apply that to Intelligent design?

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  2. So what??? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone knows they're all pictures of boobs anyway.

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    1. Re:So what??? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      Everyone knows they're all pictures of boobs anyway.

      I think you're confusing it with this.

  3. The blots by DarrenBaker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here are some examples of ink blots, and patient reaction.
    http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF233-Psychoanalyst.jpg

  4. Re:Here they are. by rattaroaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    the Rorshach ink blots. Oops, it seems I have exposed them to the public, I guess the whole debate is moot now.

    AHHHH!!! My eyes! The goggles. They do nothing!

  5. Rorschach Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I went to the Wikipedia page and saw what appears to be ten pictures of vaginas. Is that why everyone is so worked up about this?

  6. People must be told. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where are you going?
    Back to basement. Back to slashdot. Evil must be punished. People must be told.
    Rorshach... you know I can't let you do that.
    Huhhh... of course. Must protect Ballmer's new utopia. One more body amongst foundations makes little difference. Well? What are you waiting for? Mod me down.
    Rorshach...
    Mod me down!

  7. Re:they all look like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ooo, is this the comment where we all reply stating what they obviously represent?

    That first one is a giant Chihuahua eating a lady, obviously. I don't see how anyone could not get that.

  8. Re:Make some new ones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    fold a piss of paper in half and take a piss on it

    Hmmm, I don't think I need a Rorschach test to determine the issue here ...

    Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your mother.

  9. Wait until the optometrists... by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait until the optometrists discover that Wikipedia is using an uncensored Snellen eye chart. Pssst! The big letter at the top is an "E."

    1. Re:Wait until the optometrists... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is why there are different charts.

      personally, I like to get a peek at the patent number on the bottom and recite that when they ask me to read the smallest letters I can.

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  10. Re:Don't they all look like boobs anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes, you do indeed look like a boob.

  11. Re:Ummm... by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Funny

    These blobs were specifically designed to include as many penisses, vaginas and boobs as possible.
    It's not easy to make blobs which match their quantity of private parts.
    Trust me on this.

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  12. Re:I thought they.. by Atrox666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If there are only 10 then why are they all pictures of my mother when she's angry?

  13. Re:I thought they.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am both a dope smoker and a scientifically-minded person, you insensitive clod!

  14. Re:Here they are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the Rorshach ink blots. Oops, it seems I have exposed them to the public,

    No, you slashdotted them. The American Psychological Association will thank you, I am sure.

  15. Plate 1 by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey! Who put CowboyNeal's photo in there?

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  16. Re:I thought they.. by LaskoVortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the doubt thrown on the validity of the tests is all over the place anyway. Why not just let the tests out and end the debate there?

    They are useful. Here were my answers: butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly. Based on my answers, my analyst, Dr. Lector, said I was a tedious but promising candidate to be a murderous sociopath. He said it was going to take some work, though. I'm now in a cage taking heavy doses of barbiturates "to help me with my progress". I'm still waiting for the next phase of treatment when I get the spinal injections before being forced to listen to Beethoven's Ode to Joy and watching Nazis have sex with prostitutes.

    Who would have thought so much treatment could be advised from how one interprets bilaterally symmetric and colorful images that have the same vague appearance as a major phylogeny from the tree of life. I feel better already!

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  17. Re:Here they are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not only that but I heard also that if you see the blots before reaching at least the OT3 level you're likely to die in pneumonia.

  18. Re:Here they are. by jcr · · Score: 2, Funny

    they ended up saying I was psychotic

    Are you sure it was a shrink and not a scientologist you were taking the test from?

    -jcr

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  19. Re:I thought they.. by Munden · · Score: 5, Funny

    I too scoff at the validity of these so called Rorschach tests. Any Phrenologist will tell you the only thing that really matters is the shape of your head. For you see, the form of the cranium represents the form of the brain, and thus reflects the relative development of the brain organs.

  20. Re:I thought they.. by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Albert Hofmann, is that you?

  21. Re:I thought they.. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whadda I know.... I just sit in my office designing / validating psychologically sound tests all day...

    You sound angry. Tell me how you feel about this.

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  22. Re:I thought they.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    hmmm, I saw butterfly, red x, red x, red x, red x, red x, red x, butterfly, butterfly, red x

  23. Re:I thought they.. by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 3, Funny

    "These aren't the inkblots you are looking for." /waves hand

    Sorry, someone had to.

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  24. Re:I thought they.. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm now in a cage taking heavy doses of barbiturates "to help me with my progress".

    And I see he thought a laptop with internet access would help too. Very wise, this Dr. Lector...

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  25. Re:I thought they.. by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here were my answers: butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly. Based on my answers, my analyst, Dr. Lector, said I was a tedious but promising candidate to be a murderous sociopath

    I saw sexual organs, both male and female, in each card. They offered me a job in the clinic.

  26. Re:I thought they.. by lennier · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whadda I know.... I just sit in my office designing / validating psychologically sound tests all day...

    You sound angry. Tell me how you feel about this.

    Does it please you to believe that I sound angry tell you how I feel about this?

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  27. Re:I thought they.. by cb8100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here were my answers: butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly, butterfly.

    Funny. My answers were: butterfly, vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina, vagina.

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  28. Please post picts by Openstandards.net · · Score: 2, Funny

    GigsVT, can you post a picture of what you are talking about, please?

  29. Re:information wants to be free... by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Batman
    2. Batman kissing Catwoman
    3. Batman getting out of the Batmobile
    4. Batman
    5. Batman
    6. Batman on Gotham City Bridge
    7. Mr Freeze
    8. The Joker
    9. The Joker
    10. Dead Joker

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  30. Re:Here they are. by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

    The blots! I hear scratching at the door as I write this last entry in my journal. I only pray no poor fool will read this and repeat my experiments with certain hypercomplex geometries of extended Cayley numbers. I already fear I have exposed the world to too much danger, as the mad prophet Rorshach foretold. The blots! The hideous inkblots! I should have burned them. Even the outlines may be... Now the door is opening of its own ... ... Mom???

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  31. Re: Obsess by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    1 pr0n
    2 Children
    3 terrorists
    4 copyright
    5 iphone
    6 free/beer
    7 grass-mud horse
    8 Obama
    9 ubuntu
    10 NYCL

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  32. Re:I thought they.. by severoon · · Score: 4, Funny

    The test does provide interesting info. Not about the subject, though--about the one administering it, to the observers that are always behind the one-way mirror, evaluating that person.

    (Just doing my part to make the psychologists of the world paranoid.)

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  33. Re:I thought they.. by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    "What do you see?"
    "I see a lonely aging man whose degree was too volatile and who is now being passed by the information age."
    "Very good. What about this one?"
    "I see a dream of a time gone by, when life had a hope worth living."

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  34. Re:I thought they.. by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have quit smoking 5 times. It's easy.

    Whats even easier is to quite buying and claim your quting smoking. People will pity your crave and give you a smoke.

    Seriously, it is quite difficult to quite smoking sometimes. The worse part about it is just when you think everything is alright, someone blows smoke in your face and you almost start from the beginning. It can be done, I quite cold turkey and stayed away for 5 years but started again when I left the job. Cutting down gradually just seems to prolong it and make it harder too. Cold turkey is the way to go if you can.

  35. Re:I thought they.. by hardburn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also, where does a psychiatrist/psychologist turn to when he himself needs metal treatment?

    Good question. I like a copper pipe, but some prefer steel.

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  36. Re:I thought they.. by Omniscient+Lurker · · Score: 5, Funny

    She'd say: "Oh God, he's never going to move out is he?"

  37. Character counts... by sbeckstead · · Score: 2, Funny

    Personally I think that Rorschach should be censored, he was the least likable of the characters in the whole comic and when his resolution came at the end of the story I though it was well done. But by all means censor the foul mouthed weenie!

  38. NNPI by Savantissimo · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's as good an excuse as any to paste this here:

    NNPI (No Nonsense Personality Inventory)
    [Author unknown - see "The Best of the Journal of Irreproducible Results"]

    1. At times I am afraid my toes will fall off.

    2. As an infant, I had very few hobbies.

    3. Some people look at me.

    4. Spinach makes me feel alone.

    5. Sometimes I think someone is trying to take over my stomach.

    6. My teeth sometimes leave my body.

    7. I think I would like the work of a hummingbird.

    8. I have always been disturbed by the size of Lincoln's ears.

    9. It makes me angry to have people bury me.

    10. I believe I smell as good as most people.

    11. Most people vomit out of spite.

    12. Constantly losing my underwear doesn't bother me.

    13. It is hard for me to find the right thing to say when I am in a room full of cockroaches.

    14. I believe that halitosis is better than no breath at all.

    15. Weeping brings tears to my eyes.

    16. I believe in life after birth.

    17. Some songs make me burp.

    18. I never seem to finish whatever I

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  39. Again, there's a simple solution by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just use a different test.

    "You're in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down... "

  40. Re:I thought they.. by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Two elephant bees fighting over conjoined twin nuns
    2. Two baby elephants high-fiving with their trunks as they crush something under their front feet.
    3. Two tribeswomen carrying buckets and exchanging hearts
    4. Cross section of uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina
    5. Moth
    6. Dragonfly impaled on a cross-section of a starfruit
    7. Two female baboons kissing with their breasts touching
    8. Evolution... legged and tailed creatures crawling out of the ocean
    9. Cross section of uterus and vagina of a woman giving birth to conjoined twins
    10. Two queens wearing grey hats and flowing red robes stealing baby crabs as they fight off the green-clawed mother crabs

    Psychoanalyze away.

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  41. Re:I thought they.. by tinkerton · · Score: 3, Funny

    I see two naked women very thoroughly covered up by inkblots. All Rorschach pictures were made by that approach, it's well known. It's less common knowledge that several windows fonts have been created with the same approach. Wingdings of course, but also Arial. Arial bold is particularly naughty, hence the name.

  42. Emo Emo Emo by breadlord · · Score: 2, Funny

    One of my favorite Emo Phillips jokes goies something like this: Psychiatrist: OK, I'm going to show you some pictures. What does this one look like? Emo: That looks like standard pattern 47 in the Rorschach series to test for obsessive-compulsive behavior. (doctor gets angry) Emo: OK, it looks like a butterfly.

  43. Re:Scoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Either that, or due to having read enough about psychology to realize that 99.875% of it is bunk.

    what, are you a scientologist or something?