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12% of E-mail Users Have Responded To Spam

Meshach writes "An article in Ars Technica claims that 12% of internet users have actually responded to spam messages and tried to buy items. Although I find this hard to believe, it does explain why my spam folder is always full." Also in spam news, wjousts links to a Technology Review article about how spammers get your e-mail address, writing "E-mail addresses in comments posted to a website had a high probability of getting spammed, while of the 70 e-mail addresses submitted during registration at various websites, only 4 got spammed."

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  1. That's why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm posting as an anonymous coward, so they don't spam my e-mail address.

  2. Of course people respond... by Heed00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How else are they going to win the Nigerian lottery? You can't win if you don't enter.

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    1. Re:Of course people respond... by julesh · · Score: 3, Funny

      How else are they going to win the Nigerian lottery? You can't win if you don't enter.

      Of course you can. I got an email just last week telling me I had won, and I've never entered it...

    2. Re:Of course people respond... by dominious · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't understand how you believe such crap. I always unsubscribe to those mailing lists..I mean they do give you the option to unsubscribe. Thank god I don't belong to that 12% of idiots!

  3. no kidding? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    12%?

    Really? I honestly thought it would be much higher...just basing that off of some of my daily interactions with people. It's a good thing breathing is an involuntary action, cause there are a lot of people out there who'd forget to.

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    1. Re:no kidding? by clang_jangle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's what I though too, 12% seems a bit low. I've observed a lot of users who really can't tell you which stuff in their inbox they actually signed up to recieve versus which are just spam. Half the stuff they sign up to receive looks as shady as spam anyway... I just had a conversation this morning where I tried to teach a user to tell the difference between sales hype and legitimate information. He just couldn't get it, it was too much for him. He constantly forwards me things like "AMAZING NEW DISCOVERY...!!!", asking "what do you think of this, should I order it?".

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    2. Re:no kidding? by Jason+Earl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The folks responding to the "enlarge your member" ads didn't want to fess up.

  4. Definition of "Spam?" by Hyppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The entire premise of this article depends on the definition of "spam." One could mark a legitimate business' unsolicited email as spam, but that doesn't mean that purchasing a product because of the material in one of those emails is newsworthy.

    Nigerian princes in peril are another matter, though.

    1. Re:Definition of "Spam?" by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do legitimate businesses send unsolicited email? I have never seen one.

      I have, very very often. It seems common in the b2b market in the UK.
      And yes, I am talking about real, honest-to-god legitimate businesses, with reputations; as well as the countless spams from others with differing levels of legitimacy (all the way from slightly dodgy telecoms resellers, through SEOs all the way down to the pill peddlers we all know and 'love').

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    2. Re:Definition of "Spam?" by xaxa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When I chaired a society at university I got loads of spam (my address was listed on the university's website as the contact for the society), and so did the society's email address. Most of them would be asking me to spam everyone in the society with offers for summer "charity" work and so on. I usually replied with this, which scared them off:

      This is a spam.

      Quoting from http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/privacy_and_electronic_communications/the_basics.aspx ,----[ Electronic mail ]
      | Electronic mail is emails, SMS (text), picture, video and answer-phone
      | messages. Electronic mail marketing messages should not be sent to
      | individuals without their permission unless all these following criteria
      | are met:
      |
      | 1. The marketer has obtained your details through a sale or negotiations
      | for a sale.
      | 2. The messages are about similar products or services offered by the
      | sender.
      | 3. You were given an opportunity to refuse the marketing when your details
      | were collected and, if you did not refuse, you were given a simple way to
      | opt out in every future communication.
      `----

      You have met none of these criteria. If I receive another message from you I will report your business as sending spam.

  5. Order of the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Terrify people into compliance!

    "Hey, y'know gramma - I heard answering junk email funds the terrorists." ...

    "Yep, that's right - that email you've got right there advertising cheap knob-expanders? That came straight from Osama bin Laden's laptop, uh huh."

  6. Which sites sell addresses to spammers? by piojo · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would have liked the article to state which sites sell e-mail addresses to spammers. They would certainly deserve it.

    I use unique e-mail addresses for (almost) everything I sign up for, and I've never gotten a spam message from any of those unique accounts. I started getting a lot of spam when I first posted to LKML, which is published online.

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  7. No suprises. Some problems. by w0mprat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The data may be skewed: users may consider offers from genuine mailing lists 'spam' whether they've signed up to it intentionally or not, when completing a survey. This more relevant stuff is more likely click-worthy. The survey doesn't necessarily make this distinction and account for it.

    Otherwise, it is somewhat believable as many individuals new to the internet learn many lessons the hard way.

    Mind you, "but another 13 percent said they simply had no idea why they did it; they just did." explains why I still receive 'send this to 10 people or you will has bad luck' from otherwise intelligent and educated people.

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  8. My Penis Enlargement Pills Worked Great!!! by loose+electron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey! I got a great deal on penis enlargement, breast enhancement, and this greasy stuff you rub all over your body to increase your sexual desirability scent! Works great! Now if I could only get the dog to stop sniffing me, all the women would be barking at my door!

    Sad to say, one of the places that I buy "generic viagra" from would not return my money when it did not work as well as the "super size me" products... I will just have to wait for my money from the deal I made in Nigeria to counter that loss.

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  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  10. Re:Misleading by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    That was my thought too. People responding to 12% of all spam is quite a bit different than 12% of people having every responded to a spam email. A 12% response rate for an email marketing campaign is enough to make any marketers nipples hard enough to cut glass.

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  11. Lately... by jciarlan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Every so often I go through my spam folder, it's pretty funny. I've noticed lately that a lot of them don't even have links, it's like they're just trying to annoy us. For example, I received this yesterday:

    Forge your huge love sword

    and that was it. No link, no pictures. My theory is I have a really good friend who goes through a whole lot of effort just to make me smile. Either that, or it's an insult on my manhood designed to make me feel inadequate.

    1. Re:Lately... by CorporateSuit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well... did you end up forging your huge love sword or not?

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    2. Re:Lately... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I remember correctly, the purpose of those emails is to try to confuse Bayesian filters.

    3. Re:Lately... by Phroggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every so often I go through my spam folder, it's pretty funny. I've noticed lately that a lot of them don't even have links, it's like they're just trying to annoy us. For example, I received this yesterday:

      Forge your huge love sword

      and that was it. No link, no pictures. My theory is I have a really good friend who goes through a whole lot of effort just to make me smile. Either that, or it's an insult on my manhood designed to make me feel inadequate.

      A lot of spammers aren't very smart. They use pre-built off-the-shelf tools, and sometimes they click the wrong button and end up accidentally sending a mal-formed message to three million people by mistake. Sometimes there's a bug in the software, or it's just misconfigured. It doesn't really matter to them - after all, it doesn't cost them anything to send the spam, because they're stealing resources from others.

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      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
    4. Re:Lately... by redJag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or they are looking for hits on transparent GIFs to determine the quality of their mailing list.. ;)

  12. My email address has only been on Slashdot by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got this username and email as an experiment. I have only posted it publicly on Slashdot and have not used it for anything else. I don't even check it. I just checked. I have 5,000 messages in my spam folder. And gmail deletes them after a month. So posting my email publicly on Slashdot only is resulting in 5,000 spams a month.

  13. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Informative

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  14. LinkedIn sold my email address by oman_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    A friend of mine invited me to linkedin by using my personal email address and lo and behold I started getting a ton of spam relating to owning a business.

    Never EVER EVER type your (or a friends') email address in to a website no matter how reputable they seem.
    They will change their privacy policy the second they decide to make a buck.

    And I hope the linkedin people go to hell because now that email address is about useless.

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  15. Re:They got my email by tattood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One interesting thing I noticed, is that they didnt talk at all about is normal chain-emails. How many times do you receive an email from a friend with some sort of cute story that has been forwarded 10 times before it reaches you. You have to scroll down past 5 pages of email headers, which conveniently contain every email address of people who have been copied on that email. Eventually, one of those chain emails reaches a spammer, and they now have a couple hundred *validated* email addresses to spam to.

    Thats why when I (on rare occasion) forward an email, I delete all the previous email headers, and BCC everyone on the list so that the people I send the email to don't get their email address added. Of course, my email address is still shown as the source, so if the people I send to don't follow the same behavior as me, then my address gets added to the forward list.

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  16. The Best Solution by DaMattster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is the one developed by the hard working folks at the OpenBSD project whom have been studying spam for well over 5 years. They came up with something that is devlishly clever called OpenBSD Spamd. Spamd is basically a fake smtp engine that sets the TCP RWIN to 1. By doing this, it causes the transmission speed to slow to 1 byte per second. This can cause a backlog or even crash the spam spender. Fight back, don't filter! You can even create a serious of spam trap addresses, publish them, and reverse harvest the IP addresses of the spam senders. Check out http://www.openbsd.org/