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Study Catches Birds Splitting Into Separate Species

webdoodle writes "A new study finds that a change in a single gene has sent two closely related bird populations on their way to becoming two distinct species. The study, published in the August issue of the American Naturalist, is one of only a few to investigate the specific genetic changes that drive two populations toward speciation."

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  1. Thank God. . . by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . for intelligently designing these species to evolve.

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    1. Re:Thank God. . . by flydude18 · · Score: 5, Funny

      This isn't evolution, it's just God applying a patch.

    2. Re:Thank God. . . by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds more like a fork.

    3. Re:Thank God. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No. Obviously the birds sinned,and THAT'S what caused the need for the separation in species. That leaves one good, and the other sinful.

    4. Re:Thank God. . . by Hojima · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I prayed the day would come where we observe speciation. Wait a sec. Damn, he does exist. I guess it's back to offering virgin sacrifices to the great lord Zuthulu.

    5. Re:Thank God. . . by martas · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm all for sacrificing virgins, as long as you get a whore back...

    6. Re:Thank God. . . by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've applied a fork to birds tons of times and you don't see anyone thanking me.

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    7. Re:Thank God. . . by shiftless · · Score: 3, Funny

      C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!1

  2. How is this news? by XPeter · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know Slashdot has a reputation for late articles, but this was discovered by Darwin over a hundred of years ago, it's called natural selection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

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  3. Keep in mind... by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep in mind that the criteria for speciation is, itself, somewhat arbitrary and there exist few fine borders in nature for classifying things. These birds CAN produce offspring, but behaviorally, don't. This may be where some creationists get confused, thinking of dogs and cats and fish, etc in terms of some sort of central "essence" of an animal, when in reality the borders exist mostly in human minds.

    1. Re:Keep in mind... by srussia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Keep in mind that the criteria for speciation is, itself, somewhat arbitrary and there exist few fine borders in nature for classifying things.

      Exactly. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_problem. The concept of "species" is so poorly defined that it deserves no place in scientific discourse.

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  4. Old news by WeirdJohn · · Score: 3, Informative

    This was observed with the Eastern Rosella several decades ago, when the Murrumbidgee Irrigation scheme split the population in two. There are now two distinct species, that will not mate to produce fertile and viable offspring under natural conditions.

  5. chestnut vs blue-black by Kebis · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, the difference comes down to the birds wanting to have sex with other birds with the same belly color? First parrots taught us birds can talk, and ravens taught us birds can use tools, now we find out birds can be racist! Forget the AI Singularity, birds will be the death of us all as soon as they invent their own laser weapons!

  6. The heading is misleading.... by thephydes · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is not speciation occurring ...YET. It is two related bird populations not seeing each other as sexual rivals, apparently because of feather colour. The article is clear. This MAY lead to speciation if other genetic changes occur in one or both bird populations.

  7. another example of speciation by jipn4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    These birds CAN produce offspring, but behaviorally, don't.

    So, you're saying it's like computer geeks and supermodels?

  8. Re:The birds are racists by turbidostato · · Score: 3, Informative

    "So if speciation has occured (according to the article) when the two populations no longer mate"

    Re-read the article: it doesn't say so. It says that since those two populations no longer mate, the door is open for speciation to happen, not that it already has happened.

    "does that mean if white people and black people stopped mating they would be different species?"

    Change it for "they may end up eventually as different species" and you are right.