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DNA Differences Observed Between Blood and Organs

Scrameustache writes "Researcher working on a rare type of aortic abnormality found that the DNA from diseased tissue did not match the DNA from the blood of the same patients So far it's unclear whether these differences in the blood and aortic tissue are the consequence of RNA editing, which changes the messenger RNA but not the gene, or DNA editing, which involves differences in the gene itself. Based on the evidence so far, the researchers believe the differences resulted from developmental rather than somatic DNA alterations. 'Traditionally when we have looked for genetic risk factors for, say, heart disease, we have assumed that the blood will tell us what's happening in the tissue,' lead author Bruce Gottlieb said in a statement. 'It now seems this is simply not the case.'"

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  1. Chimera by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps some of those patients were chimeras .

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    1. Re:Chimera by broken_chaos · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)

      The name comes from the mythical chimera, but is actually an organism (humans can possibly have this) with two or more distinct types of DNA in it's body. For example, if a human had one set of DNA in their kidneys and a different set in their liver.

  2. I'm curious and not a Biologist- by mckinnsb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... but would this discovery have any potential legal ramifications on DNA testing, potentially casting doubt on its validity? Their testing method has to be accurate, or else they could not observe the differences in DNA between blood and organ cells - but are the differences enough to cause one person's DNA to be mistaken for another, or are they small enough to not risk a false positive? I'm not a lawyer or a biologist, but thats the first thing that popped into my head.

    1. Re:I'm curious and not a Biologist- by turtledawn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Typically one would compare DNA collected via the same method as the original specimen- thus if you were testing for DNA in a skin flake, you would get a skin sample, while for semen, you'd get a semen sample, etc. It shouldn't make a difference in a well-run criminal case (and I'm not going to touch whether or not DNA-reliant cases are well run).

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  3. title misleading (again) by dltaylor · · Score: 4, Informative

    The researchers did NOT say, definitively, that the patients DNA varied between blood and aorta.

    What they said was that the SEQUENCING showed a difference. The sequencer used cannot distinguish between messenger RNA and DNA differences.

    While it is possible that micro-environment, such as being blood vs. being aorta could result in changes to DNA, it is far more likely to result in tweaks to messenger RNA.

    Since they found the same SNPs in aortic tissue from the organ bank, it could just be a common adaptation for that tissue.

    1. Re:title misleading (again) by rnaiguy · · Score: 4, Informative
      While you are technically correct, you missed the point entirely.

      If you read TFA (not the news piece, the actual one), then you will see that they sequenced cDNA, which means that they have the RNA sequence, but NOT the DNA sequence, and therefore cannot tell whether the changes occurred at the DNA or RNA level (such changes occurring at the RNA is old news). The GP did not quite express this clearly, but is correct in spirit.

      What I cannot fathom, is why they did not simply sequence the DNA of their gene of interest (really just the area around the mutation(s)) for a few patients. This would be really straightforward (can be done in a week), and i woud have thought any reasonable peer reviewer would request it. Overall, there is not enough evidence to support the hype in the news piece, as far as I'm concerned, which explains why it's not published in a high-end journal.

  4. Re:good old days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not all mutations are "all good" or "all bad". Granted, many are instantly fatal others cancerous, and some serve no known purpose. But to propose that we should limit the genetic diversity to include only genes that we currently think are "good" is foolhardy. Our species - or it's descendants - are best served by having a large base of mutations in the inventory. This way, when nature throws us a curveball, we may have an existing population of humans with the genetics to survive. For example, there are supposedly some tribes in the Amazon who have a mild form of Cystic Fibrosis, which prevents them from sweating their salt out. It seems like a bad idea, until you consider they are living in an extreme environment where sweating is a poor method of cooling due to the high dew point, and it would kill most "healthy" people who lived there. Malaria resistance is improved by being a heterozygous carrier for sickle cell anemia. Et cetera.

    As for your link, I see your IMDB and raise you an XKCD (http://xkcd.com/603/).

  5. Re:good old days by shentino · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't you know that being born in the early half of the century is the number one cause of death these days?

  6. Re: Mosaic by nbauman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Actually TFA did raise the possibility of chimeras. My thought was that it could be a mosaic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(genetics)

    People sometimes get mosaicism after stem cell transplants or organ transplants.

    I saw an interesting example of mosaicism in a medical journal. An infant was born with half male genitals, half female genitals. The most obvious explanation was that he/she was born of two embryos, one male, the other female, that combined at an early stage (but not too early) and formed a mosaic individual, with patches of male and female cells. Mosaicism actually is pretty common in biology. Sometimes you get patches of skin that vary between 2 colors. The later the embryo recombines, the bigger the patches are.

    But this raises the possibility that the DNA of the cells in one developmental branch -- the arteries, or the aorta -- goes through some epigenetic doubling, on a routine basis, because it happened in several samples, even healthy tissue. I wonder if it happens in mice.

    My understanding of the article was that they sequenced DNA -- both strands -- not the RNA. But for reasons I don't understand, Schweitzer said it might be the consequences of RNA editing, to the messenger RNA.

    Actually they got into chimerizaton at the end of TFA:

    In an e-mail message to GenomeWeb Daily News, Navigenics Co-founder and Chief Science Officer Dietrich Stephan said the team's work is interesting and deserves further investigation.

    "Differences between the germ-line genome and somatic cells is well established in cancer. It is also well described that chimeras can result from early DNA changes in early embryonic development that propagate to form regional differences in the genome across the body," Stephan noted.

  7. Re:How... by nbauman · · Score: 3, Informative

    You'll note that even in this study they didn't sequence any DNA; they just looked at the expressed mRNA.

    I couldn't quite figure that out from TFA. It sounded like they sequenced the DNA and cDNA, but then they talk about mRNA.

    http://www.genomeweb.com/sequencing/snps-non-cancerous-tissue-may-differ-those-blood-study-finds http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:0S55-4qOoysJ:www.genomeweb.com/sequencing/snps-non-cancerous-tissue-may-differ-those-blood-study-finds+SNPs+in+Non-Cancerous+Tissue+May+Differ+From+Those+In+Blood,+Study+Finds&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Sneaky cache to avoid login

    On the other hand, when the team sequenced BAK1 cDNA from healthy aortic tissue obtained from a Quebec transplant service, they found the same three SNPs as in the aortic tissue from the AAA cases. The researchers verified their findings by sequencing both strands of DNA and repeating the sequencing several times.

    So far, Schweitzer said it's unclear whether these BAK1 differences in the blood and aortic tissue are the consequence of RNA editing, which changes the messenger RNA but not the gene, or DNA editing, which involves differences in the gene itself.