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Blizzard Awaits China's Approval For WoW Relaunch

angry tapir writes "The relaunch of World of Warcraft in China, where it has already been offline for six weeks, still faces an indefinite delay as it awaits government approval for its content. Problems for Blizzard Entertainment, the game's creator, started when it switched to a new local operator for World of Warcraft in China, online gaming company NetEase. New operators of foreign games have to submit the games for government approval, and China has objected to some of the content it found in its latest review of the game."

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  1. Now is the time to strike! by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I were the CIA, I'd pressure Blizzard to hold off on changes for another 2-3 months. I guarantee you there will be protesters marching in the streets and demanding regime change!

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    1. Re:Now is the time to strike! by sopssa · · Score: 1

      After all the time I used to freaking grind grind grind on that game, I'm not so surprised it takes time to check the content. Or maybe they just gave up :)

    2. Re:Now is the time to strike! by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3, Funny

      They need to check exhaustively, I'm sure out there somewhere is Fizzle Sparksprocket, a fire mage gnome who contributed to the overthrow of Gnomeregan, and who immolates himself periodically in worship of an Old God.

    3. Re:Now is the time to strike! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They actually don't care at all, because any decent player or guild in China has already transferred their characters to the Taiwan servers and has been playing since it came out there.

      In fact it's obvious that most of the posters here either don't play wow very much, or follow raiding at all, seeing as STARS, which is a Chinese guild got the world first 0 keeper yogg-saron kill (which is considered to be the hardest encounter in the game currently).

      I do agree it's insane that China doesn't have wrath yet though, it's been well over 6 months since the expansion came out.

  2. Irony by Darkness404 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Is it ironic that this news comes from an Australian site which the Australian government has expressed support for filtering of downloaded games ( http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/25/1821235 )?

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    1. Re:Irony by CaseCrash · · Score: 0

      Not really, no.

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    2. Re:Irony by sleeponthemic · · Score: 1

      What you're basically suggesting is that reporting news about another country having remotely similar policy to your own might constitute irony. Using this logic, this post is ironic, because I am now talking about you clicking the post button. I must have too!

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  3. What's the big deal? by lymond01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    China. Pssht. They probably couldn't get more than 1% of the population to play and at $15/month...that's only...um...$150,000,000. A month.

    Allrighty let's get China on board here! Start bringing in those tax dollars! (Blizzard does pay income tax for something like this?)

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by sopssa · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its different rates in china, as most people are quite cheap compared to us/europe.

      Players will need to purchase a CD key to create an account and enter the game. The key comes at a price of 30 Yuan (about 3 euros or 2 pounds) and can be bought with a so-called Points Card which costs the same. While game time can be purchased on a monthly basis here, you can play WoW on an hourly basis in China - at an incredible rate of 0.45 Yuan/hour, amounting to 0.05 euros or 0.03 pounds respectively.

    2. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Prices are cheaper over there. Last I knew (according to this Blizzard press release: http://eu.blizzard.com/en/press/050606.html) playing in China costs 0.45 Yuan per hour, which converts to 6.5 cents per hour.
      So someone over there would have to play just over 230 hours a month to be paying $15/month.

    3. Re:What's the big deal? by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 5, Funny

      So someone over there would have to play just over 230 hours a month to be paying $15/month.

      So in other words, a slow month for those of us who play WoW?

    4. Re:What's the big deal? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      So someone over there would have to play just over 230 hours a month to be paying $15/month.

      So in other words, a slow month for those of us who play WoW?

      I swear it's not an addiction! I can quit anytime! *twitch*

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    5. Re:What's the big deal? by Loopy1492 · · Score: 1

      Yuan, euros, pounds. Man, for some reason I can't care about this post. ;)

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  4. Humm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So right now there is some chiness dud that work for the government "reviewing" the content of the game..does he have to level up all the way to level 70 or they hire a power-level company for that and after that they just check the content of the game?? do they have to review all the game quest? do they get GM power from blizz so they can check everything??

  5. Just like developing for an iPhone by foom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The parallels are astounding: Indefinite delays, arbitrary conflicting decisions, and reapproval of already-approved content required when making minor changes!

  6. You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by nweaver · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Chinese Communist party got tired of people taking their candles.

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    1. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by narfman0 · · Score: 0, Insightful

      The Chinese Communist party got tired of people taking their candles.

      Parent != Troll. If I had mod points I would mod you up funny. Too bad people mod ignorantly... topical jokes are cool. What's slashdot for anyway?

    2. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by pha7boy · · Score: 1

      hehe... it seem the Chicoms have mod points :) So they take Mao Candle from you.

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    3. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by ring-eldest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is not YOUR candle.

      Is OUR candle.

    4. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by Abreu · · Score: 1

      It can be YOUR candle, not a problem... unless the candle in question becomes a means of production of capital.

      Then it becomes THEIR candle

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    5. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It's EVERYONE's candle, thus NOBODY may use it unless we can use it to produce anything we can export, so we get foreign money, which we can use to buy foreign companies and patents, and they again belong to EVERYONE, but NOBODY may have it for himself, thus it has to be administered by the government which was chosen by EVERYONE, so essentially NOBODY...

      *facepalm* You'll never become good Communists. Mao, why have you forsaken us?

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    6. Re:You No Take Mao's Candle!!! by splutty · · Score: 1

      Take the bloody candle and leave me the hell alone, or I'll sue your ass for genocide!

      (I always thought it was a bit odd 'Candle or Death'.. 'Uhm.. Death please'..)

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  7. People going crazy? by toxygen01 · · Score: 1

    How many suicides noticed so far because of WoW shutdown? It must be one hell of fun realizing that you actually have *free time* when server is down. (not that your ssh access server downtime would be different)

  8. So has anyone died? by astrodoom · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing with the largest population and such there must have been more than one case of severe WoW addiction. If the entire WoW community there is actually surviving 6 weeks of seperation this may be an interesting rejection of the concept of gaming addiction.

    1. Re:So has anyone died? by twidarkling · · Score: 1

      An addict can and will switch to replacements when their drug of choice is unavailable. There's more MMOs than simply WoW. I'm betting it will take a while for the subscriber base to recover after this, since they'll all be hooked on something else.

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    2. Re:So has anyone died? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      *shrugs* there's still gold farmers in wow, as well as organizations trying to sell powerlevelling and such. My guess is that the Chinese government hasn't blocked the game as well as they think they have.

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    3. Re:So has anyone died? by sopssa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They haven't even tried to block anything. The company running the chinese version of wow and their servers just hasn't got permission to get the servers up. Chinese gold farmers are obviously playing on eu/usa servers and selling gold/powerleveling to them, as you cannot transfer gold and characters across usa/eu/china servers.

    4. Re:So has anyone died? by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      *shrugs* there's still gold farmers in wow, as well as organizations trying to sell powerlevelling and such. My guess is that the Chinese government hasn't blocked the game as well as they think they have.

      Or that there are other countries with people who engage in these activities...

    5. Re:So has anyone died? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I had the hunch that there've been more Chinafarmers in EvE lately. The price dip of Trit sure matches very curiously the moment WoW was cut in China...

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  9. Worse than Nintendo by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Seriously, China's "nanny state" protection is worse than Nintendo's censorship in the NES/SNES days.

    The game has been modified to meet the Chinese government's demands before. Skeletons added to the game in an update overseas appeared with flesh in China.

    So you can't see people's bones in China but a dead corpse is just fine? I mean, heck, back in the NES days you could play Castlevania and kill skeletons all day long and that was just fine with Nintendo's censorship.

    Government objections have also prevented the China release of Wrath of the Lich King, the game's latest expansion. The expansion twice failed to gain government approval despite content revisions, possibly due to elements like the "death knight" character class, according to local media.

    So lets see, the Chinese government won't let you have a class called a "death knight" while the government constantly celebrates the "great leap forward" which ended up killing a ton of its own citizens, celebrates the Chinese Civil War as some great achievement which ended up with millions dying. I really don't understand China's censorship, especially since this will give them lots of tax revenue.

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    1. Re:Worse than Nintendo by MoldySpore · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, at least Nintendo never administered shock therapy for an addiction to Zelda ;)

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    2. Re:Worse than Nintendo by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Different cultures have different taboos. Remember Janet Jackson during the Superbowl? I'd be willing to bet that gigantic shitstorm in the US would have been perfectly acceptable for a lot of other cultures.

    3. Re:Worse than Nintendo by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Funny
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    4. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most European countries, I believe, have commercials with breasts bouncing all over the place with nothing covering them. They don't see anything wrong with it. So your point is absolutely correct.

    5. Re:Worse than Nintendo by chmodU · · Score: 1

      Heh. Skeletons and Death Knights are not taboo. And even if they were, a game company wouldn't be successful releasing taboo content.

      No no, this is typical China. 6000 years of bribery and corruption

    6. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Creepy · · Score: 1

      If I remember correctly, in Japan breasts and testicles are perfectly fine to show, but other genitalia are strictly forbidden. There was a kids show where opossums blew up their testicles and fought with them, or something like that, and I've seen non-hentai anime with breasts (but no sex) that I believe was aimed at teens.

    7. Re:Worse than Nintendo by tisepti · · Score: 1

      So you can't see people's bones in China but a dead corpse is just fine?

      Nope - corpses are replaced with tombstones

    8. Re:Worse than Nintendo by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There was a kids show where opossums blew up their testicles and fought with them, or something like that

      Sounds like it may have been Tanuki

    9. Re:Worse than Nintendo by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      So lets see, the Chinese government won't let you have a class called a "death knight" while the government constantly celebrates the "great leap forward" which ended up killing a ton of its own citizens, celebrates the Chinese Civil War as some great achievement which ended up with millions dying. I really don't understand China's censorship, especially since this will give them lots of tax revenue.

      I don't think you really mean that the Chinese government is celebrating the casualties. It is more the reverse - people who try to publicly remember the casualties from the Great Leap Forward can still get into some serious difficulties, if it is taken as an implicit criticism of the ruling party.

      And Chinese censorship is pretty simple: anything someone *in power* might find objectionable will be censored. Lots of Chinese get creeped out by ghosts. Besides that, believing in ghosts is pretty much a non-materialist phenomenon, so they're not too happy with that purely on ideological grounds alone.

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    10. Re:Worse than Nintendo by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      There was even a Pokemon episode featuring the guy from Team Rocket suddenly getting large boobs. Cue lots of ah... coloured jokes. For some reason they deemed it okay for Japan, but not so much for other countries... :P

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    11. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      More specifically it was likely Pom Poko, a very non-hentai movie from Studio Ghibli, sometimes described as the Japanese Disney.

    12. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Best. Video game commercial. Ever.

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    13. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know those ching-chongs all look the same, but there's different gears turning behind those slitty eyes.

    14. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Aceticon · · Score: 1

      In the summer, when you got to the beach in most of Europe you'll see naked breasts all day long.

      Believe me, once it's commonplace it's not special anymore.

    15. Re:Worse than Nintendo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I distinctly remember this being the letdown of the century. WOW! JJ's boobs on TV!

      You didn't even really get to see a nipple, or see them bounce, or anything. Hell, the average 10pm TV shows more boobies than that. Fire up YouTube for that? Hell, "Ding" from Seeed has more boobs in its video and it's been running on music TV in Germany all day. Ok, they're animated and they're a bit furry, but still boobs!

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  10. A humble proposal on how to defeat game addiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is somewhat off topic, but very related to WoW:

    I just went back to a top university to do an MSc. From my childhood onwards I have had a pretty unhealthy addiction to games, we're talking 6-8 hours a day as a kid. It's still very difficult for me to be in a room with a device that games can be played on, and not play instead of e.g. studying.

    So I conducted a little trial - by downloading Angband - using the automated 'borg'.

    I found that I could actually study, if I just had the screen a few meters away so I could glance at it every once in a while. The game plays itself with all the constraints of a player.

    Achievement tendency? Satisfied.
    Compulsory collection tendency? Satisfied.
    Gradually increased challenge tendency? Satisfied.
    Grouping/raid tendency? Well, not, but still.

    I was even thinking maybe Blizzard should have a WoW server where bots are allowed.. In a few mins I'm set to read development economics with my warrior churning in the background.

  11. level 80 Rogue Alliance Eldre' Thalis by NetNinja · · Score: 1

    Ahh I was wondering why there are less Chinese gold spam messages in trade chat.

    100 trade messages a day. It's amazing they are able to earn a paycheck by playing a game albeit not a lot but I am sure it's better than not working.

    1. Re:level 80 Rogue Alliance Eldre' Thalis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gold sellers on US servers are running the US client. There is a difference.

  12. I wish we'd dump China by autocracy · · Score: 1
    Disregarding the fact that Game Theory says we never will, the only effective answer we really have to China is to just drag all our stuff away from them. This could be really interesting if China responded in kind. We'd effectively split the world in half.

    Maybe I'm just disgruntled because I spent all day reading proposed healthcare legislation and have decided that if one person puts something stupid forward, he's an idiot, but if a group do the same, it's "compromise."

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    1. Re:I wish we'd dump China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh?

      In a few years, the Chicoms are gonna dump us.

  13. Re:A humble proposal on how to defeat game addicti by twidarkling · · Score: 1

    This is just twisted enough to be awesome. We need some high-profile studies on this, STAT.

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  14. The real reason for the delay by Raindance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's pretty clear that the real reason for this delay isn't some minor quibble regarding content. It's that China doesn't want a Western/foreign company to dominate their online gaming market.

    Clever, unethical (from certain standpoints), and frustrating for Blizzard, no doubt.

    1. Re:The real reason for the delay by Lost+Engineer · · Score: 2, Informative

      wth? they're based in Irvine, CA.

    2. Re:The real reason for the delay by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1

      Vivendi which owns a majority of stock in Activision-Blizzard is a French company.

    3. Re:The real reason for the delay by grandnexus · · Score: 1

      I agree with this, even if Vivendi (like The Analog Kid says) is owned by a French company, I think they are just trying to hurt western interests. Or maybe there is a Chinese company developing their own MMO and they want that one to be successful? Another theory is that they are tired of their young population playing hours and hours of video games, in hopes they will work and be productive and make China's economy stronger. I mean, China is a communist state, so they will always do what's in the states best interest (or at least what they think is in the state's best interest). I seriously doubt the government cares about some stupid skeleton shit. The reason for most things in life is money, power, or influence (which is all really power).

    4. Re:The real reason for the delay by dontPanik · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that substancial yet uncited or defended claim.

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  15. Oops. by euyis · · Score: 1

    Ministry of Culture has just approved the game. The game will be relaunched on Jul 30 in China.

    -source: a Chinese IT news website

  16. Whats this REALLY about? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Remember that article a while ago about China banning Gold Farming?

    You think whoever passed the bill is finding alternative ways to enforce the law?

    1. Re:Whats this REALLY about? by enjoijorb · · Score: 1

      Remember that article a while ago about China banning Gold Farming?

      You think whoever passed the bill is finding alternative ways to enforce the law?

      Remember that article a while ago about China banning Gold Farming?

      You think whoever passed the bill is finding alternative ways to enforce the law?

      This is a good market for the Chinese apparently. Too good. http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/06/29/1839205/China-Bans-Gold-Farming

  17. Isn't this harmful to China's GDP? by Murazor · · Score: 2, Funny

    All the gold farmers are out of business!

  18. China's changes by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    China insists that a system be put into place to jail WoW characters who advocate democracy for Azeroth.

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  19. Translation? by Beerdood · · Score: 1

    Tried translating that, and sort of got the gist of it using an online translator here, though a little hard to understand at http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

    I won't translate the whole thing, but I noticed this tidbit :

    "The people's net - game channel country news General publications administration concerned people in charge on 21st in the evening pay attention to "Evil spirit Beastly World" on the society examine and approve the related question to accept reporter to interview."

    World of Warcraft somehow translates to "Evil Spirit Beastly World" here - maybe that doesn't sound like much in western culture, but I'll bet that a lot of Chinese find the thought of a world of evil spirits terrifying, and not something to risk tampering with or provoking. Basing this off "In Chinese thought, the world is populated by a vast number of spirits, both good and evil. Such spirits include nature demons (kuei-shen), evil spirits or devils (oni), and ghosts (kui)." a couple of links I found here and here. Could be one of the factors in the delay.

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    1. Re:Translation? by chmodU · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't.

      Mo Shou Shijie translates to Magical Beast World ("World of Magical Beasts" - a better translation). Mo can relates to devils in certain contexts, but it more often just means magic. Not the sinister kind.

    2. Re:Translation? by Wowlapalooza · · Score: 1

      Or, translated even more loosely, "fantasy themed" ("magical beasts" being more descriptive of that setting than, say, a sci-fi setting, an Old West setting, a Victorian London setting, or any other popular settings in which MMORPGs have been placed).

  20. Already moved on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The majority of the high level player population in China has already moved on to Taiwanese servers. I don't know if they'll move back once the China servers are back up, especially after the huge delays in getting both TBC and WotLK released there. I also don't know if these high level, "hardcore" players constitute any significant majority of the WoW China playerbase (they probably don't).

  21. Re:A humble proposal on how to defeat game addicti by damien_kane · · Score: 1

    I was even thinking maybe Blizzard should have a WoW server where bots are allowed.. In a few mins I'm set to read development economics with my warrior churning in the background.

    If Blizzard were to allow such, I don't think it would really help the situation at all.
    Instead of people running around clicking buttons, they'd have their bots running around pretending to click buttons, sure. All the while people would be learning how to tweak their bot to make it run that much better than the other guys.
    Something similar (while entirely against game rules) happened with FFXI. A plugin (spellcast, iirc) for windower (the third-party DX-grabber that allowed FFXI to run in windowed mode) had people constantly upgrading and trading new/updated INI files to get their gear to switch out in more optimal ways.

    As to your points:

    Achievement tendency?

    Replaced with having the (provably) most efficient bot...

    Compulsory collection tendency?

    Replaced with finding new tweaks/fixes for your bot code...

    Gradually increased challenge tendency?

    Each tweak gets harder and harder to find, and generally has smaller and smaller impact on overall bot performance...

    Grouping/raid tendency? Well, not, but still.

    Forums and chats to discuss new code-blocks, new optimizations, etc.

    While I'm not saying that this shift from mindless key-clicking to mindless copy-pasting new sections of code (as many will do just that, only the truly innovative, who today create all those gear spreadsheets and skill trees) is a bad thing, it isn't necessarily a good thing either.

  22. Re:Blizzard Releases Approved WoW Chinese Expansio by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    The eagerly awaited Rage of The Ogres: Crush Christians!! Crush Christians!!! is set to hit stores August 15. Preorders have already topped 100 million.

    Isn't suppression of Muslims all the rage now in China?

  23. IMHO by MadLad · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    China can fuck right off.

  24. China = Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What Blizzard's going through reminds me of my experiences with the AppStore review process...

  25. Re:A humble proposal on how to defeat game addicti by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    Those weren't "points" to be refuted line by line, those were his feelings, the things that fueled his gaming addiction. He wanted to stop the addiction because it was distracting him from doing other stuff. Having the bot* playing the game nearby so that he could see it satisfied his game-related urges enough to let him do that other stuff. So even if willing and able to move into the meta-game of modifying the bots, he no longer felt the need to.

    That's his subjective psychological response. I would imagine though that it wouldn't be an abnormal one among those who actually want to reduce their game playing. For someone deep in MMO La La Land and such, sure it might be like changing a cokehead's habit from sniffing to smoking rocks.

    * Which if it's the one I'm thinking of may not be "provable most efficient", but plays a very conservative game and basically never dies and wins every time.

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  26. It takes them six weeks to check for Pandaren? by xmuskrat · · Score: 1

    I mean, what other Chinese laws is Blizzard afraid of breaking except for panda violence?

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  27. Breasts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is it with americans and breasts? Half of the population have them. Even more, Meat Loaf has a decent pair, remember?

  28. Re:A humble proposal on how to defeat game addicti by damien_kane · · Score: 1

    It was from my own experience having been stuck in that MMO La La Land (FFXI) that I provided that response.

    When tools like spellcast came out, I was one of the ones who traded the clicky-click rock-smoking for typey-type powder snorting of tool development and advancement.

    Also, having traded drug addictions in the past for more socially acceptable addictions (higher intake of nicotine and alcohol), it's still just trading one addiction for another at the end of the day. People just look down on you a little less for it.