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The Rocky Road To Wind Power

Hugh Pickens writes "The NY Times has an interesting story on the logistical problems involved in transporting disassembled towers that will reach more than 250 feet in height from ports or factories to the remote, windy destinations where the turbines are erected. In Idaho trucks laden with tall turbine parts have slammed into interstate overpasses requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars in repairs. In Texas the constant truck traffic is tearing up small roads in the western part of the state where the turbines are being rapidly erected. And in Maine a truck carrying a big piece of turbine got stuck for hours while trying to round a corner near Searsport." "'It left a nice gouge in Route 1,' said Ben Tracy, who works nearby at a marine equipment store and saw the incident. On a per-turbine basis, the cost of transportation and logistics generally varies from around $100,000 to $150,000, said John Dunlop, an engineer with the American Wind Energy Association, and experts say that transportation logistics are starting to limit how large — and as a result how powerful — wind turbines can get. There is talk of breaking a blade up into multiple pieces, but 'that's a very significant structural concern,' says Peter Stricker, vice president at Clipper Windpower who added that tower bases were getting too large to squeeze through underpasses. But a partial solution may be at hand. While vast majority of turbine parts now travel by truck, in Texas and elsewhere, some wind companies are looking to move more turbine parts by train to save money. But even the train routes must avoid low overpasses when big pieces of wind turbines are aboard. 'It's not your typical rail-car shipments,' said Tom Lange, a Union Pacific spokesman."

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  1. Re:Dirigible. by PBoyUK · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe they're not a fan of blimps?

  2. Not too surprising by gringer · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can always expect problems when you're transporting large things along a windy road. I'm sure the initial issues will blow over, and they'll tackle the remainder with much gusto.

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    1. Re:Not too surprising by MeanMF · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, with a little more planning it should be a breeze.

    2. Re:Not too surprising by PBoyUK · · Score: 4, Funny

      Insightful? 'WHOOSH' has never been more appropriate.

    3. Re:Not too surprising by brusk · · Score: 2, Funny

      They might blow it. That's why some here have suggested using a Chinook. I won't regale you with the reasons. The question is, what's the best time to move one of these suckers? Definitely neither Christmas nor'Easter.

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  3. In otherwords... by hampton · · Score: 4, Funny

    If we don't solve the size problem it will lead to an erection problem.

  4. Re:Dirigible. by flaming+error · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why wouldn't they be?

    Just hang the pre-assembled windmill upside down, run electricity backwards through the generator, and voila! - You've got a nice powerful propeller to drive it.

  5. Doing it wrong. by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTS: " In Idaho trucks laden with tall turbine parts have slammed into interstate overpasses requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars in repairs"

    You're supposed to put them on the truck parallel to the ground.

    Just saying.

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    1. Re:Doing it wrong. by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

      FTS: " In Idaho trucks laden with tall turbine parts have slammed into interstate overpasses requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars in repairs"

      Actually, it's a good thing they're running into the overpasses that need repairs. It'll kick start the process. However, if they were to run into an overpass that was brand new, or that had just finished being repaired... Oh Boy! Somebody would be in trouble.

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    2. Re:Doing it wrong. by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're supposed to put them on the truck parallel to the ground.

      They tried it that way initially. But while the overpasses were high enough, they were far too narrow.

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    3. Re:Doing it wrong. by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

      That reminds me of an old joke.

      Two people are in a truck. One says to the other "Look at that sign on the overpass. It says 'No trucks over eight feet high'."

      The second person looks around and then replies "I don't see any cops around. Let's go for it."

    4. Re:Doing it wrong. by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you do a google image search for 'Trackhoe' check the third hit. Whoah. That's some insurance money on that one.

      Seth

  6. President Obama was right... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Green energy does create jobs.

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  7. Re:Newsflash by nine-times · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no, there have been a couple accidents, so we should ditch wind power. Time to go back to good ol' oil, which has never had any kind of problem whatsoever.

  8. Nuclear not great either by Boronx · · Score: 2, Funny

    And the Diablo canyon nuclear power plant was part way finished before they realized they were putting it in backwards and had to start over.

  9. I hope they bring their GPS! by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'd hate to get lost delivering one of those big turbines while navigating those back roads, you could get lost for days driving on...

    Some winding little windy roads
    Some little windy winding roads
    Some windy little winding roads
    Some winding windy little roads
    Some little rocky windy roads
    Some little windy rocky roads
    Some rocky little windy roads
    Some windy winding little roads
    Some windy rocky little roads
    Some windy little rocky roads
    Some rocky windy little roads

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    1. Re:I hope they bring their GPS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd hate to get lost delivering one of those big turbines while navigating those back roads, you could get lost for days driving on...

      Some winding little windy roads
      Some little windy winding roads
      Some windy little winding roads
      Some winding windy little roads
      Some little rocky windy roads
      Some little windy rocky roads
      Some rocky little windy roads
      Some windy winding little roads
      Some windy rocky little roads
      Some windy little rocky roads
      Some rocky windy little roads

      It is very windy. You are likely to get blown by a grue.

  10. Re:Railroads by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hmm..

    Problem: giant airfoil blades are too heavy for current helicopters: current helicopters need bigger airfoils to get the thrust at a reasonable power level. Some kind of giant blades are necessary...

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  11. Re:Oh boo hoo by Beltonius · · Score: 2, Funny

    as if turbines appear out of nothingness in their desired positions, with all the required power-grid infrastructure also magically appearing.

    You clearly never played SimCity 2000

  12. Re:Dirigible. by Normal+Dan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm noticing a trend. Zeppelins cause World War II. If we don't want another World War II, we shouldn't build them. World War II 2 would suck more than the first one.

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  13. Re:Dirigible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not really. It'd give us another chance to put down Hitler. Who wouldn't want that? And think of how the economy got out of a recession!

    I say we have a World War II every 50 years just to keep things fresh.

  14. Re:Wind Farm implies Wind by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 4, Funny

    If by impractical you mean "extremely fast", then yes.

  15. Re:Dirigible. by vchiaroscuro · · Score: 3, Funny

    We'd finally have more material for the History Channel.

  16. Re:Dirigible. by brusk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Peace causes war. History proves it.

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  17. Re:Dirigible. by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

    You, OTOH, with a name like ArsonSmith, should stay the fuck away.

    WTF are you babbling about, man? I'd pay to see that because it'd be a damn cool feat of pyrotechnics.

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  18. Re:So? by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am sick to death of hearing low-watt right-wingers touting capitalism as a panacea for the world.

          Well, if you're sick of hearing the opinions of other people Mr. Know It All, perhaps the internet isn't for you. I might suggest you move to North Korea, they don't do capitalism at ALL there and in fact, you probably won't get internet either, so you won't have to listen to anyone else. That way you kill two birds with one stone.

    Now go play with your blocks

          I'd rather play with my stocks.

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