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Tron Legacy Exposed

KingofGnG writes "Disney has chosen the San Diego Comic-Con International to present its new sci-fi project: the sequel to Tron. The classic movie from 1982 dealt with video games, virtual reality and 3D graphics when none of those things were widely popular. The new movie has got an official title and synopsis now, and they've released the very first trailer from the movie (this time without silly censorship) together with some concept art and the teaser poster." No matter how silly the movie is, they'll at least get my money for sheer nostalgia.

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  1. Videogames in 1982? by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Videogames weren't popular in 1982? Let me guess: in 1982, you were still a
    Hershey bar in your dad's back pocket.

    One word: Pacman

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    1. Re:Videogames in 1982? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wasn't Wolfenstein, released in 1992 the first game with 3D graphics?

      Not even close. Wolfenstein wasn't even the first raycaster game. It was preceded by Catacombs 3D (also by Id) which itself was preceded by Hovertank (also by Id).

      Before those were even a twinkle in Carmack's eye, we had MIDI Maze (1987) and Star Wars Arcade (1983), just to name a few. There were tons of attempts at 3D games before Carmack. He merely popularized the First Person Shooter genre and made 3D Graphics the standard.

    2. Re:Videogames in 1982? by UncleTogie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well said. After all, are there any current games that have caused a Yen shortage?

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    3. Re:Videogames in 1982? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Informative

      He didn't "merely popularize" them in the sense of using star power or deep pockets to get people hooked (since he had neither). Rather, he made 3d (or 3d-ish) games that could run well and look good (better than the competition) on PC-compatible hardware in the pre-acceleration days. This brought 3d to critical mass where it was worth developing 3d acceleration products for the masses. You could look at any of the previous innovators in 3d gaming, including all the ones you mentioned, and say they merely did this or that, since there was no single breakthrough that defined gaming as we know it. But his contribution - his technical contribution - was larger than most.

    4. Re:Videogames in 1982? by corbettw · · Score: 5, Funny

      ÃoeGoinÃ(TM) BerzerkÃ

      Yep, that one's a classic, alright! Who could ever forget ÃoeGoinÃ(TM) BerzerkÃ?

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    5. Re:Videogames in 1982? by pilgrim23 · · Score: 4, Informative

      For Technical contributions Honorable Mention should be given to Ken Silverman: Walkan, Ken's Labyrinth, Build Engine for Duke Nukem 3d, etc Ken was a brilliant young programmer who we all love but never knew. You rock Ken!

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    6. Re:Videogames in 1982? by xant · · Score: 4, Funny

      > still a Hershey bar in your dad's back pocket.

      Wait. Wait, wait, what? We're just going to let this pass unremarked? What the fuck does that mean? What bizarre creation myth did your parents tell you led to your existence? I cannot think of any rational way this is a metaphor for meeting and/or fucking your future wife.

      C

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    7. Re:Videogames in 1982? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Laurie Anderson's song "Smoke Rings"

      When I was a Hershey bar
      In my father's back pocket.
      Hey look! Over there!
      It's Frank Sinatra
      Sitting in a chair.

      Possibly something to do with the WW2 cliche of GIs offering candy for sexual favors?

  2. Disney pah by Plunky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter how silly the movie is they'll at least get my money for sheer nostalgia.

    Do not give Disney your money, they will only use it to steal your culture

    1. Re:Disney pah by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What culture?

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    2. Re:Disney pah by Etrias · · Score: 4, Informative

      Say what you want about Disney (I'm no fan, myself), but they will get my money for Tron.

      You should see the trailer for Legacy: It's here.

    3. Re:Disney pah by Tetsujin · · Score: 5, Funny

      What culture?

      PROTOCULTURE!

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  3. FPS from 1980 by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    But, though pacman was popular, were 3D graphics even in existance? Wasn't Wolfenstein, released in 1992 the first game with 3D graphics?

    The early arcade first-person shooter Battlezone was released in 1980, and it might not even be the first.

    1. Re:FPS from 1980 by localman57 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Atari 2600 had a 3d game called "Tunnel Runner". Think Wolfenstein with no nazis, guns, dogs, furnature or artwork... There was a ghost-thingie, though http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=2339

  4. What Plunky is talking about by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do not give Disney your money, they will only use it to steal your culture

    Before you mod Plunky's post all the way to -1, consider that The Walt Disney Company was one of the two biggest advocates of the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 (the other being the Gershwin estate).

  5. Disney... by noundi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No matter how silly the movie is, they'll at least get my money for sheer nostalgia.

    Oops, you just defined the source to 90% of Disney's revenue.

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  6. Kinda weird mashup by Ryvar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Somebody already mashed this trailer up with Michael Jackson's "Beat It" - it works disturbingly well.

    --Ryv

  7. Screw TRON by localman57 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Along with "War Games" TRON gave an unrealistic expectation of what computers could do which continues to perplex Ludites to this day.

    On an offtopic note, this reminds me of one time when I went to a school auction. A couple of idiots felt that they got a really good deal, because they got the largest piece of computing equipment (A DEC computer of some sort) for less than what the Commodore PET computers were going for. I couldn't help but smile when I heard one say to the other "This part's the brains."

  8. Tron 2.0 Videogame - No Longer Cannon? by StaticEngine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really enjoyed the PC game Tron 2.0, put out by Monolith a few years back. It's actually quite clever (some good jokes, and of course the Musak version of the Tron theme plays in "the real world"), and the graphical style makes it almost timeless: it doesn't require high poly count video cards, it's all about that Tron look. The negatives, of course, were that most of the weapons past the disc were superfluous, and the multiplayer lightcycle races grew tiresome after a few rounds. It also had Bruce Boxleitner and Cindy Morgan providing voice talent.

    I'm excited about a new film, but I'm also torn about what this might do to the story. Still, it's nice to see an interesting IP still has some life in it.

  9. Re:TR2N? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    TR2N: 3l3C7R1C B0064100

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  10. Lightcycles only do straight lines! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is nothing sacred? Lightcycles going around curves. How could you... *sob*

    1. Re:Lightcycles only do straight lines! by NormalVisual · · Score: 5, Informative

      Lightcycles could navigate curves in the original movie, and were clearly shown doing so during their escape from the game grid. When I get home tonight I'll pop the DVD in and give you a timestamp to look for.

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    2. Re:Lightcycles only do straight lines! by Svenne · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seriously. Dude. We believe you.

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  11. Have I got this right? by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I remember correctly the premise of the sequel is that Enzo and Andraia get lost on the web for a while and grow up to be badasses - and then return to Mainframe for the final battle with Megabyte?

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  12. Introducing new characters... by Temujin_12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    New characters/themes to bring Tron into the 21st century:

    1) Qubit - flies around saying, "Yes", "no", and "maybe"
    2) Tron-troll - Any scene involving communication between more than two characters is constantly interrupted by the local Tron-troll
    3) Anonymous - suddenly hordes of identical looking drones appear to aid the main character in his/her quest then dissipate feeling good about themselves
    4) Users - rather than only having sparse information about the users, characters in Tron know everything about the users and are constantly interrupted by the user's incessant communications about what they are currently doing or their asking Tron characters to fill out quizzes which have nothing to do with the plot of the movie
    5) DRM - weapons, vehicles, and entire structures suddenly stop working at the whim of the MCP

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  13. I wonder by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

    If the title of this movie will be "Troff"?

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  14. Screw the Ludites! by KGBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'll have an unrealistic expectation of any expression of technology, by definition. All the while War Games and Tron were inspiring a whole generation (myself included) to learn what it's all about. We knew very well the expectations in both movies were unrealistic, but that was never the point. I had no hope of making my Sinclair ZX81 do anything remotely close to what Tron showed me but I got to fell like Flynn when I hacked a reset button for it (pin 13 to ground on the Z80). (Good) sci-fi is about inspiration, not reality. If it were realistic it would be a documentary and in 1982 a very boring one...

  15. Re:Could not care less. by fprintf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But, but, but... we are Generation X, long forgotten in between the baby boomers and their annoying offspring, the GenY'ers. Now that the old fogeys are retiring it is our turn in charge, and we are going to create nostalgia for our youth era gone by. No longer do we have to relive the 1960s and 1970s... nooooo, that is only for the baby boomers. Now instead we get to relive bad hair, metal, band-aid, the dawn of personal computing and video games. We get to recreate Atari 2600 games and make them into movies. We get to mandate any new pop stars create hits "remaking" the hits of our generation... hopefully we'll do better than Phil Collins did with that Supremes remake. This way we'll get to like the current popular music. And g'damn it you are going to sit through it and like it. Maybe in time you too will get sick of it and create your own grunge movement. Rap doesn't count.

    To all those GenY'ers who might complain, I say you guys have nothing to bitch about for quite some time. We GenX'ers after all have sat through countless replays of Beatles and Mama's and Papa's songs on the radio, umpteen recollections of what a tragedy it was when losing John Lennon, television show after show on JFK Jr., and that god-awful mess that "the Cuba crisis" was about. About the time you have listened to Nirvana's Teen Spirit for the 10,000th time, and have your own stars go tits up (and I mean beyond that dude who played the Joker in Batman) like Kurt Cobain, well then you can complain.

    Now get off my lawn.

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  16. The sign of the beast by ral · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's a bit of odd trivia. The original Tron movie was created (in part) on a clone of the Digital PDP-10 computer. The PDP-10 includes an instruction called TRON (Test Right-halfword Ones and skip if Not masked). The opcode in octal (which is the convention on the PDP-10) is 666.

    I doubt Disney will actively publicize this.

    (I still fondly remember working for years with this odd but elegant 36-bit machine.)